theSpirea Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I believe it was mentioned in one of the threads here recently whether there's going to be another open submission by BL. And here we go, it's announced: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/07/get-your-thinking-caps-on-black-library-open-submission-window-is-coming-early-2023/ "Black Library is again on the hunt for promising new talent; this time, we’re looking for short stories featuring Space Marine Successor Chapters! " As always, I wish everyone who is going to participate good luck. Mazer Rackham and cheywood 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just wondering, you people that think about entering, do you plan to use a successor that has some established lore or one that is just a name and colours? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I was thinking the same thing. It says ‘no Chapters of your own creation’ but there are some that are literally just a name so that basically would be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 They mentioned further terms and conditions being revealed in January, so let's see if they restrict that even further. Think I'll join this round again by renaming a homebrew chapter of mine and use a blank canon name. Glad that they announced it already. That gives the participants more time to think about and prepare for it even further. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkydel Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Gamiel said: Just wondering, you people that think about entering, do you plan to use a successor that has some established lore or one that is just a name and colours? Just my opinion, but I'd aim for Chapters with at least a little bit of background to them. 'These stories should be high-stakes, action-heavy, and show the warriors of the Adeptus Astartes doing what they do best – while showcasing the unique traits of your chosen Chapter. What sets the Silver Skulls or the Mortifactors apart from other Ultramarines Successors – besides the colour of their armour?' This is the part of the article I'd pay the most attention to. If you're making someone up from as good as whole cloth, then there's no real measure of their uniqueness as a first blush/audition kind of story. I think it'll be more rewarding if you pick a Chapter, very established or Ultima, which has a nice bit of uniqueness in their culture or how they go to war. Again, just my two cents. Good luck to everyone! Fire Golem, Kelborn, Noserenda and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wecanhaveallthree Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 This one's a little tricky to pin down exactly, so I'm glad there's more detail coming. Are they looking specifically for known Successors, wanting stories that explicitly compare-and-contrast the cultural (and philosophical) drift between a Chapter and the original Legion over the years, or is it a more generalist call for stories about Space Marines outside of the main line? I would think that the idea would be to pitch interesting stories about Chapters who have some background but don't have a modern presence, e.g. the Lamenters. Unless the further criteria precludes it, it'll be Marines Malevolent for me. De gustibus non est disputandum. Kelborn, Roomsky and Gamiel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Though I will be participating, I'm concerned by the "action-heavy" descriptor. I really do hope they'll accept something more nuanced than bolter-porn. That's just so uninteresting to me. DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wecanhaveallthree Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 As much fun as interminable navel-gazing might be, I very much like it as a 'filter'. We do read books because of their inherent biffiness: culture and philosophy and ethics are a lot more fun when they're being used to bludgeon the other guy to death. Being able to construct a gripping action scene is a fair barrier to entry, I wot. bloodhound23 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5890892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 4:08 PM, Gamiel said: Just wondering, you people that think about entering, do you plan to use a successor that has some established lore or one that is just a name and colours? I think so. This is how they get new authors so they want to see how well you can capture their IP. They want to see that you understand what makesthe Crimson Fists (or chapter of your choice) different from other chapters. There's plenty of chapters out there that are just a name. If you write one of them its probably not too far off just making your own chapter. While a blank slate is normally great it mightn't give GW what they are looking for. Out of interest- can anyone tell me who might have authority to discipline a successor chapter in Imperium Nihilus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Unless the Chapter in question is close to a region under some sort of Imperial control, ie Nachmund/Vigilus or Baal, I doubt there is anyone to control them. Not that Chapters answer to anyone normally really. Best I can think of is an Inquisitor at large trying to hold things together and trying to pull rank Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I was initially going to write a story about the White Consuls but I'm leaning more towards Marines Malevolant. As it happens White Consuls are one of the most looked up articles on the wiki this week. Maybe other people are thinking what I was thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, grailkeeper said: I was initially going to write a story about the White Consuls but I'm leaning more towards Marines Malevolant. As it happens White Consuls are one of the most looked up articles on the wiki this week. Maybe other people are thinking what I was thinking. I think that’s due to the Vitrian Messinius miniature GW just announced, he’s a White Consuls Captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Good point. I guess I was over thinking things Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 hours ago, grailkeeper said: I think so. This is how they get new authors so they want to see how well you can capture their IP. They want to see that you understand what makesthe Crimson Fists (or chapter of your choice) different from other chapters. There's plenty of chapters out there that are just a name. If you write one of them its probably not too far off just making your own chapter. While a blank slate is normally great it mightn't give GW what they are looking for. Yeah, I assume that they'll want us to flesh out an already "settled" chapter for the reasons you've mentioned. That's why I got two plans at hand. Plan A: Obsidian Glaibes, who are featured in the Sanctus Reach campaign, said to be extinct but never trust imperial records ;) Plan B (If they'll allow it termswise): Void Tridents, a fresh chapter but with enough snippets to work with and have a rough idea of what this chapter is about Hopefully, we don't have to wait until end of January for clarification. Think I'll start working on both ends just to be prepared. Gamiel and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5891171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) How are your submissions coming along? I'm written a few non-fiction books but finding writing fiction much much tougher. I cringe a bit re-reading what I've written, It's a bit like hearing your voice back on a tape. Edited December 17, 2022 by grailkeeper Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5893103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Really depends on their further details in January. I have a few "in progress stories" that can easily be changed to some less known chapter, but if they gonna want heavy action, then I'm out of luck. Mine are more character development and a pinch of horror to boot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5893145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wecanhaveallthree Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Quote I cringe a bit re-reading what I've written, It's a bit like hearing your voice back on a tape. Ah, but don't you also find a line or two somewhere and you're like 'that slaps, I rule'? It's the little things! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5893157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Currently on hold until we got further details. Got two concepts in hand which both are adaptable so there's that. Guess we'll have an update early January. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5893330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I reckon from a writing perspective you are probably better off writing out the whole story then adapting it if you have to. Probably better to write the whole story than just 500 words too. Mazer Rackham and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5893341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) nevermind Edited January 6, 2023 by grailkeeper Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5897945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Open Submissions are Open. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/11/dot-those-is-and-cross-those-ts-black-library-submissions-are-open-now/ Edited January 11, 2023 by System Sound Dumah, Gamiel, Kelborn and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5899125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Let the self-flagellation commence! System Sound, Lysimachus, Kelborn and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5899186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wecanhaveallthree Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Very glad to see it confined to the Era Indomitus, as that's easily the most interesting possible setting to pitch (and, selfishly, to read about). Indomitus offers a whole slew of possibilities in both retaking worlds and battling gribblies with the Imperium just trying to bounce back. It also means that the Primaris Chapters (or Primaris reinforcements) are going to be feeling their way forward, which I've very much enjoyed stories about (e.g. War of Secrets). There's also plenty of opportunities to flesh out events that are Codex snippets, like the Lamenters deploying in strength to help the Iron Lords, or the Marines Malevolent coming down to steal a Custodian's boots HEROICALLY BATTLE VILE XENOS. It also - and perhaps this is entirely my own cynicism speaking here - forces potential writers to get out of their 'comfort zone' and away from long-established events or bolting these Chapters onto other, bigger conflicts. It encourages much more original storytelling, I wot, and I'm very pleased to see that. Gamiel, Dumah and Kelborn 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5899252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Track of Words has put together a helpful guide to the Open Submission window, with advice from Black Library Authors, many of whom have gotten their break via this route. https://www.trackofwords.com/2023/01/09/writing-for-black-library-open-submissions-january-2023-part-1-pitching/ (there are three parts) if you are thinking of submitting I’d suggest giving it a look (and if you are thinking of it then you might as just go ahead and do it!) Dumah, Brother Tyler, Gamiel and 3 others 2 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5900143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Denny said: Track of Words has put together a helpful guide to the Open Submission window, with advice from Black Library Authors, many of whom have gotten their break via this route. https://www.trackofwords.com/2023/01/09/writing-for-black-library-open-submissions-january-2023-part-1-pitching/ Much appreciated, very useful! Good luck to everyone who goes for it. Edited January 15, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376793-open-submissions-2023/#findComment-5900152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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