Emperor Ming Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Won't they just be primaris, but in the style of old terminators That seems the most logical answer Has there been a single firstborn release since the start of 8th? If so, that's almost two editions and 6 ish years Edited January 28, 2023 by Emperor Ming KnightofSigismund, Orange Knight and BLACK BLΠFLY 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 They will be Space Marine Terminators. Whispers from the Warp are starting to hint that the distinction between "Firstborn" and Primaris is going away in 10th Edition. Karhedron and Robbienw 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, phandaal said: They will be Space Marine Terminators. Whispers from the Warp are starting to hint that the distinction between "Firstborn" and Primaris is going away in 10th Edition. And that could not come soon enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, phandaal said: They will be Space Marine Terminators. Whispers from the Warp are starting to hint that the distinction between "Firstborn" and Primaris is going away in 10th Edition. Absolutely untrue and purely speculative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BLACK BLΠFLY said: Absolutely untrue and purely speculative. Valrak's stock is very high at the moment. His sources have been pretty much on the money for a lot of recent releases. If he says the Primaris/FB distinction is being shunted into the lore then I am inclined to believe it. If you do not, what is the source of your scepticism? Do you have a different source telling you otherwise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, BLACK BLΠFLY said: Absolutely untrue and purely speculative. Angry face alert! Take a chill pill, man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: Won't they just be primaris, but in the style of old terminators That seems the most logical answer Has there been a single firstborn release since the start of 8th? If they are in the style of the old terminators, then they wouldn’t really be Primaris, even if given the keyword option. Like the BT Castellan model. The distinction between Primaris and firstborn disappears if they produce updates of classic kits that where the look doesn’t change and say oh yeah sure they can be Primaris. There have been quite a few firstborn model releases since June 2017. Edited January 28, 2023 by Robbienw Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Robbienw said: There have been quite a few firstborn model releases since June 2017. For 40k Robbienw and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Valrak is more of a 40K enthusiast rather than a gamer. Caveat emptor. And a rumor is still just speculation. "There have been quite a few firstborn model releases since June 2017." Name at least three not including Series 2. Edited January 28, 2023 by BLACK BLΠFLY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I am? Thanks for letting me know... Emperor Ming, Karhedron, Khornestar and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Soo how does that make the rumors he states to be true wrong? He knows the game and as you said enthusiastic so that means he knows what he says. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 You don’t understand the difference ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I understand the difference. But i know he knows the game and since he is enthusiastic about the 40k universe he still knows the game to. Plus he has been dead on again and again for a long time now. But you do you. If you have a source telling you differently its just fine. Just dont bash a guy for no reason. He has a track record for being right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I’m not bashing him and he has been wrong plenty of times. Valrak is basically a socially focused channel. It's for people talking smack and having a laugh with 40K as the main subject and common interest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I guess we will know in detail come summer-ish? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Around June. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I know Valrak and enjoy his content. I don't know you. I don't know you one bit. I'd rather explore the potential of this rumour rather than let you try and shut down discussion of it, thanks. Sir Clausel and Urkh 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: For 40k I was talking about 40k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 So there aren't actually any conflicting rumours then? The Firstborn Terminators, or perhaps with the rumours of no distinction between Marine types now, the new Space Marine Terminators, could herald a new wave of Terminators from GW - Chaos of all types (likely World Eaters would get a new unit too) and Grey Knights. And they'll sell of course. Is that a test for revamps of older kits? Will it be dual 40K and 30K? So many questions. The latter really factors in for me though. Any 40K Firstborn will likely coincide with 30K surely. Sooner or later they'll be MK7 in the Heresy right so it stands to reason these Terminators would be a dual 30K and 40K kit? Or when the Heresy is exhausted they would expand to the Scouring for additional factions/Xenos potentially so would GW really want to create 2 Firstborn Terminator kits out of the same concept? Precedent of this is the MK4 Tactical Squad in this regard. Robbienw 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Space Marine hero’s series 1 tactical squad + captain - doesn’t count not produced by GW Space Marine heroes series 2 terminator squad + captain + standard bearer - see above Casan Sabius and Sirae Karagon - Forgeworld, doesn’t count Carab Culln the Risen - Forgeworld, doesn’t count 2nd resin version of the Thunderhawk - it’s not a Space Marine, doesn’t count 2nd resin versions of Land Raider and Rhino doors - see above Lexicunum Varus terminator librarian model - okay Chaplain Tarentus terminator chaplain model okay Black Templars Castellan - GW stated it’s a Primaris Space Castellan Crowe - technically Grey Knights aren’t Space Marines multiple 30k releases that are also 40k models - none are Space Marines So that’s only two… FAIL “So there aren't actually any conflicting rumours then?" Yes there are. Edited January 28, 2023 by BLACK BLŒ FLY Robbienw 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Please keep the thread on topic rather than arguing about what miniatures count as 40K. Thank you! WrathOfTheLion and Blindhamster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 hours ago, BLACK BLŒ FLY said: I’m not bashing him and he has been wrong plenty of times. Just for my peace of mind, what have I been wrong about? I never seem to know Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: Just for my peace of mind, what have I been wrong about? I never seem to know "That roof looks safe." Chapter Master Valrak, Urkh, Emperor Ming and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: Just for my peace of mind, what have I been wrong about? I never seem to know You went yellow instead of a lovely Maccragian blue! Any more snippets likely on the Terminators issue? New weapons or impact on Chaos Terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Chapter Master Valrak said: Just for my peace of mind, what have I been wrong about? I never seem to know Spelling, mostly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/377220-new-firstborn-terminators-rumour/page/10/#findComment-5904720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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