Unit of the week Unit of the week: Heretic Astartes Daemon Princes

[Cpt.Danjou]

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Heretic Astartes Daemon Prince

This thread is only for tactics for Heretic Astartes Daemon Princes, not for pictures, there are other places for that.

How to best use the Heretic Astartes Daemon Princes?

• Warlord trait?
• Relics?
• Legion?
• Marks?
• Which stratagems are worth throwing out?
• Any solid unit combos?

 

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[Toldavf]

Nurgle Prince is our most offensive HQ, Golthax and killing Fury  is absolutely lethal in my NL army, Knights, Avatars, Abandon, Trajan. They have all died to Gollthax. 

[Iron Father Ferrum]

My favorite thing about DPs is that since Nephilim we've need to blow CP on relics and WLTs...but DPs are pretty decent just with their inherent options.  They certainly benefit from them, don't get me wrong, but as a beatstick HQ you can save some CP to spend on other things.

 

For example, a Khorne Prince with hellforged sword hits at S9 AP3 D3 with 7 attacks on the charge.  That's not shabby at all

[Malakithe]

17 hours ago, Iron Father Ferrum said:

For example, a Khorne Prince with hellforged sword hits at S9 AP3 D3 with 7 attacks on the charge.  That's not shabby at all

Thats my default with it in CoB for that sweet +1" move and +1S and then with Prime Test Subject WT for another +1S, +1T, and +1W. Hes a monter 

[Prot]

I haven't even tried that Khorne based Daemon Prince load out yet with the new codex. It's a great point that I'm normally CP starved and you really don't have to go all out on this guy to have an effective unit. 

 

The problem for me is this unit is highly contested by the Disco Lord. In my Iron Warriors the Disco Lord is nearly the only truly offensive character. I don't know if the D.P can take his place, and be as effective. The Disco Lord does a great job with the right escort, but the Disco Lord does require substantial Relic/WT commitment. 

 

 

[Malakithe]

20 hours ago, Prot said:

I haven't even tried that Khorne based Daemon Prince load out yet with the new codex. It's a great point that I'm normally CP starved and you really don't have to go all out on this guy to have an effective unit. 

 

The problem for me is this unit is highly contested by the Disco Lord. In my Iron Warriors the Disco Lord is nearly the only truly offensive character. I don't know if the D.P can take his place, and be as effective. The Disco Lord does a great job with the right escort, but the Disco Lord does require substantial Relic/WT commitment. 

 

 

Well if your engine/vehicle heavy go Disco. If not go DP. The DP exists as his own thing. He isnt a support guy he just roams around does his own thing and shreds everything he comes in contact with while the rest of your list does whatever you intend it to do. After marks and upgrades they are both pretty close in points so easily swappable.

[danodan123]

I've been wondering if taking a second Prince could be good with the new strat from Arks of Omen. Possibly one with wings and one without ?

 

What is the general consensus about wings, auto include?

 

Would never really see the point of Lords when these exist, pack a punch, faster, same aura and psyker support.

 

 

[Toldavf]

Wings are certainly an auto include for me, games are won in the move phase.

 

You could run 5 cp over 2 DP's its viable for sure. 

Lords have the advantage of being small only. termy ones are tougher. All that aside yes they are inferior. 

[Pirate Empress]

On 2/4/2023 at 3:02 PM, danodan123 said:

I've been wondering if taking a second Prince could be good with the new strat from Arks of Omen. Possibly one with wings and one without ?

 

What is the general consensus about wings, auto include?

 

Would never really see the point of Lords when these exist, pack a punch, faster, same aura and psyker support.

 

 

I think whether you choose to take wings or not on the Prince depends on what legion trait your army is using. Emperor's Children, Night Lords, Word Bearers, CoB, Corsairs, and Alpha Legion I would. Iron Warriors and Black Legion I think are fine without them due to a lot of their relics and WL traits encouraging buffing your army with characters. Since they have no bonuses to their mobility wings on a Prince kinda runs the risk of you overexposing the unit since it outruns it's support unless you keep it back but then you wasted points buying the wings.