01RTB01 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Where were these referenced in days of yore? It's not something I recognise from second Ed or RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I just realized these are basically an updated Death leaper modelwise. They have the three eyes and also have the talons instead of the more hand like claws of the lictor Also there was a rumour the Death Leaper was going away so these could be the replacement?+ The name is similar too Edited April 10, 2023 by Matrindur Iron Father Ferrum, sockwithaticket and CL_Mission 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dagoth Ur said: These are a bioform distinct from lictors - these being pack-based predators while Lictors seem to retain a more solo-approach. Says so plain black on white in the article. 11 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: The name is in-universe. These creatures weren't really discovered by anyone. Exactly. "These are totally not lictors," says the lore. "Basically, they are lictors though" says the model. painting.for.my.sanity, Brother Lunkhead and sockwithaticket 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofRedemption Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Lovely model. Stupid name. Khornestar, Brother Captain Arkley and HolyPestilience 1 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrozatarim Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said: Where were these referenced in days of yore? It's not something I recognise from second Ed or RT. Bit later, I think. 3rd? 4th? It's possible they were referenced back in 2e as well, but they weren't much more than a name anyway. painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4thHorseman Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 At least they are actually using previously established Fluff, unlike Primaris trash. Von Ryan's Leaper have been mentioned in the 4th ed Nid Codex. Master Commander Ajax, Petitioner's City, painting.for.my.sanity and 16 others 11 1 4 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJP Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, de Selby said: I like both the name and the models. They are distinct from lictors so I can field both without it looking weird, and the name reminds me of rogue trader days when tyranids existed on the borders of imperial 'science' and names could refer to the point of first contact, some historical incident, or another in-universe tidbit. I'm glad they aren't called Jumpdeath Clawbeasts or something. It's exactly this. "Von Ryan" will either be the name of someone who encountered them first, or the planet they were first encountered on. This is exactly the same way that Tyranids are named after the planet Tyran where the Imperium first fought them properly and Ymgarl Genestealers are named after the planet they were encountered on. MithrilForge, apologist, CrusaderXIII and 8 others 8 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) I think the name is a decent example of "show, don't tell". We (old fogeys) know that Tyranid units all have Imperial reporting names - they don't have a language after all - but having some names that are clearly someone's term for a unit, rather than looking like it might have come internally from the faction, makes that very clear for newcomers to the hobby, without having to state it explicitly. I guess the ideal would be if GW had started out with a name scheme similar to NATO reporting names for Soviet hardware, but that would have had to have started years ago. It would be very cool if all flying 'nids began with an F, all shooting ones S, all melee ones M etc... Edited April 10, 2023 by painting.for.my.sanity minor clarification MithrilForge, tinpact, Oxydo and 4 others 5 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL_Mission Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I quite like the name and I remember hearing/reading it before but I'm not sure where. It strikes me as a name that would be more fitting to a character type creature, I think it fits right in with Old One Eye and The Red Terror though admittedly I don't know where those guys stand lore wise anymore. Still I think it's fine for this unit. The models are nice too. I wonder if Lictors will become a slightly bigger, more powerful creature, a step up from these guys though just as sneaky. apologist 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Sweet models, cool name. All these throwbacks have me really considering not selling the Tyranids when I buy the new box set. Just now, CL_Mission said: I quite like the name and I remember hearing/reading it before but I'm not sure where. It strikes me as a name that would be more fitting to a character type creature, I think it fits right in with Old One Eye and The Red Terror though admittedly I don't know where those guys stand lore wise anymore. Still I think it's fine for this unit. The models are nice too. I wonder if Lictors will become a slightly bigger, more powerful creature, a step up from these guys though just as sneaky. Yep lictors are bigger. CL_Mission, Arbedark and MithrilForge 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Arkley Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Can't wait to meet Von Ryan! tangoalphatwo, HolyPestilience, DutyBeforeAll and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) Now that we know this unit's title is ancient and sacred lore, all complaints about the name must cease lol 3 minutes ago, Brother Captain Arkley said: KHAAAAAAAARNIFEX Edited April 10, 2023 by Orange Knight Cpt.Danjou, apologist, Brother Captain Arkley and 11 others 4 10 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I've heard of Old One Eye, but these nids are Old Blue Eyes CaptainFrederickson, Pork Chop Express, Brother Lunkhead and 3 others 4 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I'm so glad Tyranids are getting a bunch of new little gribblies instead of just another wave of giant monsters. Cool as that is I always liked the horde and elite lists rather than the stampede ones. apologist 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 If they're in packs, perhaps they're smaller than lictors. 28 minutes ago, RedFox said: Can't say I'm a fan of either the name or the models... I prefer when tyranids are more like aliens with guns than insectoid monsters Total opposite, insectoid nids are the business. I got into them with 3rd, though, when Carnifexes looked like beetles and Hive Tyrants looked straight up like the queen from Aliens. ZeroWolf, MithrilForge, Warp Rider and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I think they’re awesome. Name and all! Reminds me of the naming conventions from WWII with the Japanese aircraft and like others have mentioned, this was carried through the Cold War. A local name for foreign enemies. I also think it’s awesome they bridge the gap between small and large. Feel like you can build an all shooty nid army or an all melee nid army or even a mix. Nids are so varied you could almost build an all flying army or all slithering army or an all legged army. That kind of variation is so cool from a personalization perspective. Love it! MithrilForge and Brother Lunkhead 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramell Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Cute, baby lictors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangoalphatwo Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 And the poses are dynamic as hell! Just beautiful work all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHS Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 The second one is a bit too ‘theatrical’ maybe it’ll look better from a different angle phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I like the models and the name. The actual unit seems a little unnecessary though? Is this a thing Nid's needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradeh Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) Hopefully Lictors will be released at some point after. Just now, Stupidity said: I like the models and the name. The actual unit seems a little unnecessary though? Is this a thing Nid's needed? It's just the way GW does things, when they update a range they will always release new units alongside refreshed ones, where some older units won't get updated until the future. Edited April 10, 2023 by Bradeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I just don't get the name complaints. It's not like the doom of malantai, ygnmarl genestealers and the parasite of mortrex don't all exist. Other supposed tyranid (race named after a planet) genus include the catachan devil, the fenrisian kraken etc. It's not like land raiders are named after a person either and that's accepted. Why make a fuss? 99% of the time people will refer to 'nid leapers' which is fine? Iron Father Ferrum, Lord Blacksteel, DarkChaplain and 7 others 8 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I actually really like that name, instantly made me think more of animals being named after scientists who identified them, which seems fitting, after all they aren't going to give themselves names in Imperial Gothic are they! Oxydo, Wugo_Heaving, Special Officer Doofy and 9 others 7 4 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stupidity said: I like the models and the name. The actual unit seems a little unnecessary though? Is this a thing Nid's needed? New stuff, heck yes. Any new Xenos is a win in my book. MithrilForge, Doctor Perils and Kallas 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mogger351 said: I just don't get the name complaints. It's not like the doom of malantai, ygnmarl genestealers and the parasite of mortrex don't all exist. Other supposed tyranid (race named after a planet) genus include the catachan devil, the fenrisian kraken etc. It's not like land raiders are named after a person either and that's accepted. Why make a fuss? 99% of the time people will refer to 'nid leapers' which is fine? Personally I am ambivalent about the name. If I bought them, I would probably call them leapers too. That said, no one owes you an explanation for their preferences, so maybe try getting less worked up about people having a different opinion. Edit: looks like this post is setting a personal record for doofy-face reactions. If it helps alleviate the confusion, just imagine that I too am expressing dismay for people looking at something and coming to a different conclusion than me. Apparently that is much more relatable on this topic. Edited April 10, 2023 by phandaal High score? What does that mean? Did I break it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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