40k Battleforces rumours

[Matcap86]

Man... Can't GW for once just not stack all the releases I want within a 3 month timeframe? 

Edited October 19, 2023 by matcap86

[OpossumStrong]

11 minutes ago, matcap86 said:

Man... Can't GW for once just not stack all the releases I want within a 3 month timeframe? 

That's why I'm happy with 2 week pre-order window, i do hope it would ease up on them (and on my wallet).

Edited October 19, 2023 by OpossumStrong

[Jscarlos18]

Well, the leak seems to confirm this rumour. Hope the Hive Tyrant is a new sculpt, but I doubt it.

[Emperor Ming]

It does mean codex releases this ed is going to be a snails pace if they keep to the same format

 

 

[Burni]

Based on Matrindur excellent notes for the SM box on the first page, assuming the same €180 price, the SM box is actually a worse deal as the release price for the jump pack marines is €45 not the Heavy Intercessor matching €55.

 

Insert Lando 'deal is getting worse all the time' gif...

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, Joe said:

 

Ooh yeeeeeeeeeees.

Yep I’ll definitely be passing on this one. It’s just too top heavy for me

[Halandaar]

5 hours ago, matcap86 said:

Man... Can't GW for once just not stack all the releases I want within a 3 month timeframe? 

 

Hard agree, this quarter is becoming ridiculous. 

[Matrindur]

Quick update on the Space Marine box as the JP Intercessors turned out cheaper than I expected:

 

Space Marines:

• Jump Pack Captain                            32.5€
• 15x Jump Pack Intercessors          3x 45€
• Invader-ATV                                      40€
• Outriders                                           50€

Total: 257.5€ -> 31% discount

 

31% seems a little low compared to the other boxes, adding a second ATV would increases the discount to 40% which is possible as Tyranids are also 40% but I think its likelier they will do different price points for the boxes with the SM one being 170€ instead of 180€. That way it would be 34% which seems pretty good. In the same way Tyranids could turn out to be 190€ instead which decreases the discount to 37% or it could only include 2x Hormagaunts and be another 170€ box for 31% off. 

At this point those changes just aren't big enough to really predict what is true so we can only wait until GW shows them off for real. Will do another round of discount calculations then.

[DemonGSides]

So now when do we get announcement and release dates?  Gonna have to figure out a way to guarantee this purchase. Ideally at 15% off. 

[01RTB01]

3 hours ago, Matrindur said:

Quick update on the Space Marine box as the JP Intercessors turned out cheaper than I expected:

 

Space Marines:

• Jump Pack Captain                            32.5€
• 15x Jump Pack Intercessors          3x 45€
• Invader-ATV                                      40€
• Outriders                                           50€

Total: 257.5€ -> 31% discount

 

31% seems a little low compared to the other boxes, adding a second ATV would increases the discount to 40% which is possible as Tyranids are also 40% but I think its likelier they will do different price points for the boxes with the SM one being 170€ instead of 180€. That way it would be 34% which seems pretty good. In the same way Tyranids could turn out to be 190€ instead which decreases the discount to 37% or it could only include 2x Hormagaunts and be another 170€ box for 31% off. 

At this point those changes just aren't big enough to really predict what is true so we can only wait until GW shows them off for real. Will do another round of discount calculations then.

There's a balance to be had between discount and points value contained as well. Discount is only part of the story.

52 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

So now when do we get announcement and release dates?  Gonna have to figure out a way to guarantee this purchase. Ideally at 15% off. 

Normally announced in November for December purchases

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

I would have applauded the reprint of the Iron Hands battleforce. Alas no such luck. Maybe in 2024.

[Arikel]

Definitely interested in the AM box. I don’t have any tanks yet so might as well be big’uns.

[Halandaar]

I specifically held off buying the Jump Intercessors and Captain when they released in case this rumour panned out, and now that it looks like it has... I'm still not sure I'll go for it! The Outriders and ATV will probably just sap too much value from it for me; yes I know they're effectively free, but I don't really need them so it's a "waste" of savings, if that makes any sense.

 

The Guard and Votann ones are 100% kits that I would want and use so I think they're probably higher up the pecking order, but I'm also waiting to see what the Sigmar ones look like (if anybody has any solid info I'd appreciate a PM!)

[Noserenda]

3 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

I would have applauded the reprint of the Iron Hands battleforce. Alas no such luck. Maybe in 2024.

I dont think theyve ever reprinted this kind of one off box before? I certainly wouldnt expect it.

[DemonGSides]

3 hours ago, Halandaar said:

I specifically held off buying the Jump Intercessors and Captain when they released in case this rumour panned out, and now that it looks like it has... I'm still not sure I'll go for it! The Outriders and ATV will probably just sap too much value from it for me; yes I know they're effectively free, but I don't really need them so it's a "waste" of savings, if that makes any sense.

 

The Guard and Votann ones are 100% kits that I would want and use so I think they're probably higher up the pecking order, but I'm also waiting to see what the Sigmar ones look like (if anybody has any solid info I'd appreciate a PM!)

 

I'm hoping the prospect of 9 outriders and an ATV is juicy enough for someone to buy mine from me off Ebay :P

[irlLordy]

Battleforce boxes will be previewed next week according to https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/22/sunday-preview-the-cities-of-sigmar-muster/

[01RTB01]

On 10/19/2023 at 11:42 AM, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

I would have applauded the reprint of the Iron Hands battleforce. Alas no such luck. Maybe in 2024.

Since they've done army boxes/ battleforces around 1993 ish they have never reprinted any. 

 

However, there are copies of the iron hands battleforce still knocking around in Canada if needed. 

[Frogian]

AOS ones just gone up and says 40k ones up later today

[DemonGSides]

I know, I know, not an AOS forum, but hot damn a couple of those boxes are sexy.

Gives me great hope for the 40k boxes to be as rumored.

[Prot]

Probably just me, but I have no desire to add any ATV's/Outriders to my marines. 

 

I really would have preferred a 're-do' of the chapter specific battleforce boxes they did a while ago. Those were cool, and came with upgrade frames which I find a pain to locate sometimes. 

[Lord Marshal]

Confirmation of the contents.

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[Zoatibix]

Definitely grabbing one of the Tyranid boxes. 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

I just noticed all three Assault Intercessor Sergeants in the image have the exact same pose and load out and paint job... Do they not actually set up the models for photography anymore? is it really  a crtlC+ctrlV job? That's lame if so.

[Matrindur]

Battleforce discount calculations: (Prices assumed for a ~35% discount as that is about what we got last year)

 

Space Marines
1x Captain with Jump Pack - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
3x Jump Pack Intercessors - £105 - 135€ - $180
1x Primaris Invader ATV - £30 - 40€ - $50
1x Outriders - £37,5 - 50€ - $60

Total: £207,5 - 257,5€ - $330 -> Assumed prices: £135 - 170€ - $215

 

Tyranids:
1x Norn Assimilator - £70 - 90€ - $115
1x Hive Tyrant - £37,5 - 50€ - $60
1x Genestealers - £32,5 - 42,5€ - $55
2x Hormagaunts - £60 - €80 - $100

Total: £200 - 262,5€ - $330 -> Assumed prices: £130 - 170€ - $215

 

World Eaters:
1x Angron - £100 - 130€ - $170
1x Khorne Berzerkers - £40 - 55€ - $65
2x Exalted Eightbound - £75 - 100€ - $120

Total: £215 - 285€ - $355 -> Assumed prices: £140 - 185€ - $230

 

Leagues of Votann: 
1x Grimnyr - £27,5 - 35€ - $45
1x Einhyr Champion - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
2x Einhyr Hearthguard - £75 - 100€ - $120
1x Sagitaur - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Hekaton Land Fortress - £70 - 90€ - $115

Total: £237,5 - 312,5€ - $385 -> Assumed prices: £155 - 205€ - $250

 

Astra Militarum:
1x Cadian Command Squad - £27,5 - 35€ - $45
2x Cadian Shock Troops - £60 - 80€ - $100
2x Rogal Dorn Battle Tank - £120 - 160€ - $200

Total: £207,5 - 275€ - $345 -> Assumed prices: £135 - 180€ - $225

 

Orks:
1x Beastboss on Squigosaur - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Ork Beast Snagga Boyz - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Squighog Boyz - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Painboss - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
1x Kill Rig - £85 - 110€ - $140

Total: £220 - 287,5€ - $365 -> Assumed prices: £145 - 185€ - $240

 

 

Again the prices are only assumed so the discount is close to 35% as that is the average we got last year. But that is just an average and there were boxes with higher and lower discounts so the actual prices this year will be different. This is just an estimate

Edited October 24, 2023 by Matrindur

[Lord Marshal]

4 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

I just noticed all three Assault Intercessor Sergeants in the image have the exact same pose and load out and paint job... Do they not actually set up the models for photography anymore? is it really  a crtlC+ctrlV job? That's lame if so.

 

The two sets of Hearthguard are also identical, definitely a Photoshop job.

 

It's probably just because 'Eavy Metal only paint so many for the box art.