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19 hours ago, Doghouse said:

I can see where they were coming from in terms of aesthetics for these jump packs, they look like the mk iv evolving into the modern mk 7 pack we've had for years but with elements of the chaos raptors thrown in. The the way the vents are perched on top makes them look more like how the jump packs worked in the Titus space marine game fitting over the top of the regular pack.

 

 

The Forge World refinement for the Red Scorpions Veteran Assault Squad makes it clearer that the "Mk 7" version of the jump pack is also fitted over the normal power pack, although the normal thrusters are removed and routed to the turbines.

 

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 i really like these.  Will def be getting a couple of packs.   Unlike many of my friends, I like the jump packs.  They dont seem too big or bulky.  I lovew the fact that the models have subtle but definitely attacking poses, without them looking like a cross between parkour and a ballerina, balancing on a skinny tactical rock.  I play primarily on a couple of internal area style gaming boards, so wont have to worry about the aesthetic of tactical rockery inside a building or spaceship, lol.

Jump packs look a little small to me, especially with the extra torso armour. I'd much rather have seen the same design Zephon has. Ah well.

Other than that, I like these a lot. Poses look good, and I like the armoured bib protecting the cables. Love the shields, they're a nice surprise!

Well winter is like, 2 weeks away roughly? It seems they are doing two lots of plastic releases in Winter this year if the assault marines are coming separately to the mystery army, so they might be December and the Mystery team in February to really maximise the disappointment engines power :P 

I got a screenshot showing a better view of the jump pack.  This side view was the best I could find, I didn’t see any clear shots from the rear. Posting in case anyone else finds it helpful. 
 

Other people might have already clued in on this, but it looks like there’s a longer third thruster in the middle between the two outer stubby ones that isn’t apparent from any of the other promo shots. (Either that or my sense of perspective is super off haha and it’s just the thruster on the far side.)

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1 hour ago, Aarik said:

I got a screenshot showing a better view of the jump pack.  This side view was the best I could find, I didn’t see any clear shots from the rear. Posting in case anyone else finds it helpful. 
 

Other people might have already clued in on this, but it looks like there’s a longer third thruster in the middle between the two outer stubby ones that isn’t apparent from any of the other promo shots. (Either that or my sense of perspective is super off haha and it’s just the thruster on the far side.)

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You can see that thruster in the first few seconds of the shadowed turnaround:
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1 minute ago, Nephaston said:

So it's a common ancestor between the old familiar jump pack and the ones blood angels use. I like it.

The ones the Blood Angels use is a MK IV jump pack, so more like MK IV (single thruster) -> MK VI (three thrusters) -> MK VII (two side thrusters), or something like that.

9 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

The ones the Blood Angels use is a MK IV jump pack, so more like MK IV (single thruster) -> MK VI (three thrusters) -> MK VII (two side thrusters), or something like that.

So it's a common ancestor the missing link between the old familiar jump pack and the ones blood angels use. I like it.

1 minute ago, Nephaston said:

So it's a common ancestor the missing link between the old familiar jump pack and the ones blood angels use. I like it.

 

Its actually more like-

 

Mk II Turbine pack (CSM raptors)- seen on mk II and III troops

Mk IV pack (BA sang guards)- mk IV troops with jump packs

Mk VI- the new ones they just showed.

mk VII- like from the OOP 40k assault squad. 

 

The mk VII JP's look good on the mk VI if you can get them still. 

I actually like these jump packs, it's a call back to the original Chaos Raptors, who according to the lore would have have been the only power armoured troops with jump packs had it not been for the discovery of an STC of the more familiar Assault Marine Jumppacks. 

But also, am I the only one looking at the Combat Shields and thinking they'd look good on some MK3 marines as an impromptu Breacher squad?

7 minutes ago, redmapa said:

I love them and with some bits thrown in they can easily become Destroyers. 10/10 GW, top stuff.

Don't tempt me Frodo...

More destroyers... My wallet will die the day they release plastic ones.

1 hour ago, Castlerook said:

I actually like these jump packs, it's a call back to the original Chaos Raptors, who according to the lore would have have been the only power armoured troops with jump packs had it not been for the discovery of an STC of the more familiar Assault Marine Jumppacks. 

But also, am I the only one looking at the Combat Shields and thinking they'd look good on some MK3 marines as an impromptu Breacher squad?

The combat shields are way too small for breachers.

 

I'm also not seeing the resemblance to the raptor packs either in all honesty.

 

 

 

Even 2nd gen, doesn't really fit.image.png.466c0531e51cab0c8ca1cc8d307df134.png 

 

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From the front, they look a lot like the 2nd gen ones shown there with the hooded vents/intakes/whatever they are. The old Chaos Lord with Jump Pack is the easiest one to compare with.

 

It's certainly the model I first thought of when I saw even the CAD images of the MK VI assault marines.

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They're growing on me.

 

Still hoping for MkIV in the new scale but I'm definitely warming up to MkVI.

 

Combat Shields for everyone is cool. Also I guess this is how people are supposed to get Bolt Pistols (give Sergeant Lightning Claws) for Tactical Sergeants.:wink:

 

Here's hoping the Close Combat Weapon set has a bunch of nice things.

With there being arguably only one official Mk III Jump Pack unit (WBs Ashen Circle; its more of an inbetween of Mk II and III with up-armored torso and shins) I doubt it since the lorewise, Mk III is very unbalanced in terms of weight (its all on the front) and considerably heavier than any other Mk of Power Armour. 

 

But in terms of model kits, the work will probably be minimal if any.

funny thing is with everyone saying how this is a clear missing link between mk4 and mk7 . 

 

The Mk4 "Angelus" pattern is referred to as a newer design than the mk7 pack in the (iirc) 6th ed codex. 

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The important thing to remember is that jump packs are an entirely different program to power armour, they are only associated because FW thought they looked good together when they did the various assault marine packs. I understand its a sensible shorthand but the various jump packs were all around roughly in parallel unlike the progression of power armour designs.

12 hours ago, Slips said:

You can see that thruster in the first few seconds of the shadowed turnaround:
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After seeing that thruster layout this mark of jump pack is starting to grow on me. Might look good as a compact jump pack for a small unit of specialists like the Firewing Enigmus Cabal.

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