Lysimachus Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Painting complete! Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 I will update things tomorrow. Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 With a month's worth of rations for the crew, I think we should ascertain why the populace of Phastus II are fit only for servitor-lobotomisation or penal legions before we start eating all their strange plants and weird dog's milk. Should we quarantine the supplies to the Death Guard in system, or just magpie everything? (You know, since we're the good guys). Thoughts? Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 24 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: With a month's worth of rations for the crew, I think we should ascertain why the populace of Phastus II are fit only for servitor-lobotomisation or penal legions before we start eating all their strange plants and weird dog's milk. Should we quarantine the supplies to the Death Guard in system, or just magpie everything? (You know, since we're the good guys). Thoughts? You may have misread the note from the Adeptus Terra on Phastus II. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I don't think I've misread, but perhaps I have inferred more than what's there: I want to know why tithed units are having increased non-combat related deaths, and have a load of food-related questions around that. I just can't ask any NPC's who might be in the know yet, hence the spit-balling. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Derp, I think I misread it too. So it's actually saying about something being wrong with the food from Phastus, so that units that eat it seem to die more quickly? And therefore the suggestion is to give the food to units that are already likely to die quickly such as Penal legion (or that care less about food quality, like Servitors)? Worrying that a vessel associated with one of the original 4 traitors is here, makes it more possible that the people here know exactly what has been happening to the Imperium? Do we think we should minimise the numbers of Astartes on board, make us seem as unthreatening as possible? Secondly, I suspect we shouldn't admit to there being any other Legions on board except Salamanders? If we tell them there is a mixed group of IH, RG and Sallies on our ship (and the locals are Traitor and do know about everything going on) it is going to be pretty obvious that we have come from Istvaan...? The only exception to that would be to admit that Hadad is aboard if there are IW in the garrison, as it might get us planetside a bit more easily? We can always make up a reason for him being there if we need to eg. maybe the Sallies rescued him as a lone survivor from another garrison (on another world, that was destroyed by the xenos their task force was hunting) or whatever? Edited January 2 by Lysimachus Trokair and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 22 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: So it's actually saying about something being wrong with the food from Phastus, so that units that eat it seem to die more quickly? And therefore the suggestion is to give the food to units that are already likely to die quickly such as Penal legion (or that care less about food quality, like Servitors)? This is what's activating my almonds. The food is supposed to be good, providing all the sustenance required for human life, but the excess deaths remain. Is it a reliance on the foodstuffs provided? Are the foodstuffs psychotropic in some circumstance that has gone unremarked? Is it withdrawal or withering? Why are the troops only good for cannon-fodder? Is it indicative of discipline failure? If so, does it have anything to do with the black tithe? Is it a symptom of increased psyker activity? Does the food cause it? Like I said, went down a rabbit hole. Trokair and Lysimachus 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 This is why adding detail is important in rpgs, I could have just given you three options of Industrial world, agri-world and forge world outpost. But spending a few minutes fleshing them out adds so much value. And paranoia. Mazer Rackham, Machine God, Lysimachus and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said: This is what's activating my almonds. The food is supposed to be good, providing all the sustenance required for human life, but the excess deaths remain. Is it a reliance on the foodstuffs provided? Are the foodstuffs psychotropic in some circumstance that has gone unremarked? Is it withdrawal or withering? Why are the troops only good for cannon-fodder? Is it indicative of discipline failure? If so, does it have anything to do with the black tithe? Is it a symptom of increased psyker activity? Does the food cause it? Like I said, went down a rabbit hole. Personally I had interpreted those details as some early shipments had a Ergot infestation/contamination or similar, so there was a decrees in discipline/increase in random stupid accidents as the troopers acted on mild hallucinations. Then the reclassification happened without knowing the cause and now it is self fulfilling as it is supplied only to troops already at higher risk of casualties. 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: Worrying that a vessel associated with one of the original 4 traitors is here, makes it more possible that the people here know exactly what has been happening to the Imperium? Do we think we should minimise the numbers of Astartes on board, make us seem as unthreatening as possible? Secondly, I suspect we shouldn't admit to there being any other Legions on board except Salamanders? If we tell them there is a mixed group of IH, RG and Sallies on our ship (and the locals are Traitor and do know about everything going on) it is going to be pretty obvious that we have come from Istvaan...? The only exception to that would be to admit that Hadad is aboard if there are IW in the garrison, as it might get us planetside a bit more easily? We can always make up a reason for him being there if we need to eg. maybe the Sallies rescued him as a lone survivor from another garrison (on another world, that was destroyed by the xenos their task force was hunting) or whatever? Very much agree, play the Hadad card if needed in dealing with the IW, and otherwise pretend we are pure Sallies Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Sorry for the inactivity here, Grandfather Nurgle left me something especially virulent under the tree this holiday season and I've not been about.I'm back on my feet now though, and I'll get an IC post up tonight. Do we want to specify a type of xenos we were fighting in our cover story, if that's what we're going with? Black Cohort, Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Glad you're feeling better! I guess the best bet would be to stick to the truth as far as we possibly can? So tell them whatever Nuzry and the Tribute were doing before getting called up for the Istvaan Campaign? …but OOC I don't know if either: a) @Black Cohort already had something specific in mind for that? Or b) he didn't, it doesn't matter to the story, and so we are free to create something and it will be what the ship/crew were actually doing? If it's the latter, I guess the obvious main threats to choose from would be Orks, Eldar, or Compliance of a non-Imperial Human world? But equally it could be something more unusual, a whole xeno species/world wiped out, etc? Trokair, Urauloth and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 A small suggestion - I'd think it would be better if was a human non-compliant world, like the Technocracy. Otherwise, why would our vessel have been ravaged by Imperial-style weaponry? @Urauloth glad you're feeling better. Urauloth, Lysimachus and Trokair 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Ooh, yeah, that's smart thinking. Human, then, or at least human tech adjacent. Edit: although I suppose a lot of Ork tech is looted/copied from whoever they are fighting? Could also include Votann, though I'm not too sure what they were up to in the GC/HH era? Edited January 3 by Lysimachus Machine God and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Whatever the Tribute was doing prior to the muster should be in the ship's logs, we probably don't even have to disturb the captain to find that out as long as our suits interface with the onboard systems and we have the clearance to see it. As for cover stories, if we're the only survivor of a multi-legion squadron that was scrambled to meet a new xenos threat, it would explain why we're damaged and why we have a mix of different legions on board. We purged the threat at great cost, but we need resupply and an astropath to warn the rest of humanity that there's a new kind of alien marauding around, since they blocked our outgoing communications and none of our own astropaths survived. That's why we're in such a hurry to send a message. (since you mention it, the damage done by their weapons is pretty similar to ours, but that just means their guns are really good, eh?) Mazer Rackham, Machine God and Lysimachus 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) Works for me. Edited January 4 by Mazer Rackham Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 11 hours ago, Lysimachus said: Edit: although I suppose a lot of Ork tech is looted/copied from whoever they are fighting? Could also include Votann, though I'm not too sure what they were up to in the GC/HH era? @Lysimachus - In the Great Crusade the Votann were getting re-introduced to the Imperium of Man / Resisting compliance etc. They are the Galactic Core Worlds mentioned in the Armour Blurb for Mk III - Iron Armour. Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 sorry been busy for a few days and hoping the Salamander would post, I will give things a push in the morning Trokair, Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Sounds like it will just have to be a straight up landing then, lads.... If we can't get 'em on the phone, that is! Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If Urauloth isn't around for Ekene to make contact, maybe Hadad can do it? Tro did get 3DoS on his last Chapter (or Legion) Ciphers roll, was that enough for him to have opened an acceptable/recognised channel with the IW at the garrison and send them a message? Otherwise, yep, I guess we just get on the THawk and try making an approach? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 @Trokair they need you on the blower.... Spoiler Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 so what is the actual plan when you reach the planet, because I think the next thing is to launch you guys in the thunderhawk. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 If nothing is working as far as sending/receiving astropathic messages goes, I think our primary goal was getting as much resupply from the garrison as we can, so that's our target? I think we (or specifically Hadad?) are asking the IW to let us land our Thunderhawk at the garrison - preferably inside, but outside if they won't let us in! We can talk to them and try to determine what they know and what side they are on? If we find that they are unaware of Istvaan and still loyal, we can try to (gently) let them know what happened. Assuming we can convince them, we'd then strip the garrison of anything useful (including the loyal IW, if they want to come?) and get out of the system before any traitor ships arrive? Alternatively, if they do know about Istvaan and aren't loyal, I guess we either attack them there and then (might be possible with air support from the Thunderhawk?) …or run away and try to figure out a sneakier way in? Either way, this would be with the intent of killing all the filthy traitors and then going back to the ‘looting anything useful’ bit (see above! ) That was my understanding of what the general plan was, I may have missed stuff though… Mazer Rackham and Trokair 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) I'm happy with just flying down, landing on whatever pad they direct us to, then saying hello, although I can wait in the gunship or something if Sul and Hadad want to fly casual/solo. I mean, at the end of the day, either they're traitors, or not. If so, they will either shoot us down as we're leaving, or shoot us as we get out; or think we're traitors and do the same... Edited January 25 by Mazer Rackham Pragmatic context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: I mean, at the end of the day, either they're traitors, so will shoot us down as we're leaving, or shoot us as we get out; or think we're traitors and do the same... I know Istavann was hard on all of us, but maybe have room for a little hope...? As Lys said I understood the plan to be to try and get down, in or (more safley perhapse) near the garison and then see ifthey are friendlies... Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Trokair said: I know Istavann was hard on all of us, but maybe have room for a little hope...? There is only vengeance, my friend... OOC: I was going to add something pragmatic to the grim dark, but forgot because someone was prattling at me. I've dropped it in. Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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