Black Cohort Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 21 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: That's very generous, thank you GM... and therefore I totally get that I'm being properly cheeky by asking the following and you are well within your rights to just say 'no' immediately - Is there any chance you would allow each of us to have 700, or alternatively is there any chance I could get another 100 early and take it off whatever xp we get next time around? There is a very specific reason for asking - we're now Rank 3, and the single key thing I want from the Rank 3 Assault Marine table is the Wall of Steel Talent (as it plays into Elvrit's character of being a skilled, but more defensively focused swordsman). Unfortunately for me, it is 700xp rather than 600xp... As I said, I will fully understand if the answer is no. Get some stat upgrades and bank some XP? Machine God, Necronaut and Lysimachus 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Ok, maybe from the reactions, that was being too cheeky... However, I still have a little bit of hope! I just remembered, did any of our clever lads who are playing Raven Guard players take the Picter Helm as their Chapter Trapping? @Mazer Rackham do a bro a favour and come roll on Ravyx' Int and see if you can get me another hundred xp from somewhere?! 13 minutes ago, Black Cohort said: Get some stat upgrades and bank some XP? If no-one took the Picter Helm, that will probably be the plan Necronaut and Trokair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 I like how all the talk has been about XP and not which system to jump to next Necronaut and Trokair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: @Mazer Rackham do a bro a favour and come roll on Ravyx' Int and see if you can get me another hundred xp from somewhere?! Sorry, took the Calvaria, and it was either that or Bolt Pistol. To be fair, the latter may be less effective than showing your 'Iron Hand Blind Reacts' Picter-Toks... Necronaut and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Black Cohort said: I like how all the talk has been about XP and not which system to jump to next Priorities! Speaking of which, I think I (as a player) would like to see Phelorak, but Astess III may be the better play as I think in character we are less likely to be followed/pressed there. The ruins might be enticing to us as players, but I doubt Hadad would have any reason to be interested. The lesser status of the world seems like the best place to hide out while a new plan is formulated on how to strike back. Lysimachus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Personally I think Phelorak is the one to go for. FW Mezoa is definitely Loyalist, and ordered their subsidiary outposts to fight against the traitors. So with any luck, we should find some allies and maybe some repairs/resupply? Trokair 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 5/17/2025 at 7:26 PM, Trokair said: Looks like we have the beginning of a plan. Anybody have Demolition skills to set up our improve armury denyer? On 5/18/2025 at 10:13 AM, Lord_Ikka said: Ugh, I should probably just have looked at my Purchase History tab instead of assuming....Took Demolition for Kraith. He's only got an Int of 41 though, so only so-so chances of making it work. This is what I get for not doing my normal "plot out my character's general arc of skills/upgrades I want" and just going with the flow. I don't remember why I took Demolition, but I assume it was for doing saboteur-esque stuff... So, erm, further to this, while looking at what to spend the fresh XP we have just been given I saw that Hadad also had Demolition in his Purchase history and I had failed to mark it in his skill section. Opps. Good thing we had others with the skills required. Black Cohort and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Black Cohort and Trokair 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Na, looks fine, carry on. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, Black Cohort said: I like how all the talk has been about XP and not which system to jump to next Priorities are always clear for sweaty basement dwellers adventurers: 1. Acquire XP and loot 2. ???? 3. PROFIT Edited August 26 by Necronaut Mazer Rackham, Black Cohort, Lysimachus and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) Please ignore this, behaving like a dumbass. Sincere apologies to Necro. Edited August 27 by Lysimachus Trokair and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lysimachus said: Wow. Yeah, I guess I was being an xp-grubbing, ‘sweaty basement dweller’ by asking BC about the possibility of a (pretty measly*) extra 100xp so that I could take a Talent that is fluffy for the character involved, and that I've already got the vast majority (6/7ths) of the xp needed to purchase it… *and, let's be clear, this is the 1st time we've been given any xp at all in the nearly 2 years since this game was started. …and not to mention that I plainly said that I would be more than willing to take that 100 as a loaner to be paid back when we next get xp - an admittedly generous arrangement on the GMs part, but one which I have made several times for various players in my own games - maybe I shouldn't be so helpful? It's all just shocking sweaty xp-goblin behaviour…! Rest assured, I was in no way casting aspersions or seeking to besmirch the honour of any of the esteemed members of this board, merely having a bit of fun while reflecting upon past offline (non-B&C) instances of fellow players engaging in significantly more egregious behaviour, circa high school. Clearly my intent did not come across as such. No offence was intended, apologies all around. Besides, for @Mazer Rackham's upcoming take on the 3rd War for Armageddon, I, uh, may have, in an entirely clownish and ultra-sweaty goblinoid fashion, overspent on initial character spend by a whopping 1000 xp. Needless to say, our local commissar kindly requested that I return the balance of xp to the munitorum bursar and give myself fifty lashings while reflecting upon how I had failed to live up to the Emperor's example if I wanted to avoid a close encounter with a bolt pistol (he was feeling especially lenient that day). Edited August 27 by Necronaut Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and Trokair 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 46 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Needless to say, our local commissar kindly requested that I return the balance of xp to the munitorum bursar and give myself fifty lashings while reflecting upon how I had failed to live up to the Emperor's example if I wanted to avoid a close encounter with a bolt pistol (he was feeling especially lenient that day). Goddamn slander. I had the safety catch on. Trokair, Necronaut and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Goddamn slander. I had the safety catch on. “What did I tell you about Mister Safety Catch?' said Vimes weakly. When Mister Safety Catch Is Not On, Mister Crossbow Is Not Your Friend,' recited Detritus, saluting.” ~ Sir Terry Pratchett, Night Watch Lysimachus and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 19 minutes ago, Machine God said: Ashmon: "Ever heard of Archeotech?" Good one , I nearly spilled my drink from laughter. Lysimachus and Machine God 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 @Machine God just to be clear, although Elvrit was expressing himself in typically Elvrit-fashion, I'm happy to go wherever the majority think we should go. Currently that's 1 vote for Phelorak, and 2 for Astess. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Ashmon could spend 300 XP to learn Tech Use, but he won't be doing so. Roleplaying Reasons. I'm still deciding whether to spend or bank the XP. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6129997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Kraith will hold off on spending XP for now- I'm going to look and see where I want him to go before spending willy-nilly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Rapid reaction perhaps to keep with Arazakiels paranoia, though Hatred(Chaos Marines) is on the Dark Angels advancement list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) Post edited: https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/4/#findComment-6005618 Edited August 29 by Machine God The Funny Pink went away Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 After some though I have decided to get Trade (Armourer) +10 for 400XP (using 300XP that had been banked at character creation) and then spend the reaming 500XP on Target Selection so Hadad can provide fire support even into combat without endangering allies. Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I think I'll spend at least some of mine (does me no good sat in savings!) but I'd rather not spend more than 500xp, so I can at least bank 100xp towards other increases I want more. So, max of 500 to spend… but I'm struggling to think how to use it. I've already hit all of the cheap (200xp) options for Assault Marines’ Stat increases. I could take a Simple Fel boost at 500xp, but it doesn't really fit for Elvrit's character to bother much with this Stat! There are also a few where I could take Intermediate Stat increases, again at 500xp (Str, Ag, or Per) but none of these will push the Stat up into the next 10’s bracket (and thereby increase the Stat Bonus, etc), so I don't think any of them are currently really worth it for the cost? So, if not Stats, what else is available? Iron Hands: I could take Tech-Use+20 or Peer: AdMech, but I'm not sure there is much point in taking either now that we have a proper Techmarine on the team? Hatred is useful, but I've already taken Hatred: Traitor Marines, so I'm not sure which (if any) other group would make sense? Assault Marine: A lot of the Rank 2-3 Assault Marine picks are agility/speed based, such as Lightning Reflexes or Leap Up, but which don't really feel quite right for a slower, tanky character. Or they relate to jump pack operation - and he hasn't got one! (I think I may have rather limited myself by building Elvrit into a Breacher rather than staying a standard Assault Marine!) Double Team is maybe an option from this table… does anyone else have this ability, as it is obviously much better with 2 characters? General Advances: Nothing here, I think. We've already got a few Demo guys in the party, and Elvrit's Fel isn't high enough for taking Command. Rapid Reaction again feels too quick, and Rapid Reload isn't much of a boon when you're only carrying a Bolt Pistol. There are a few Elite Advances I'd like (Autosanguine for added tankiness and Mechanicus flavour, and Thunder Charge for… well, thundering charges!) But again these are out of reach for current xp. The only other thing I can see that I'd like is the Favoured Foe Distinction (RoB, pg93) at 500xp, obviously vs Traitor Marines again, which feels quite fluffy for Elvrit - he's killed at least half a dozen of them now, and he's eager to kill more! It feels quite Iron Hand-y and obsessive, which is bang on the money for him. But I'm not clear on whether Distinctions are available/allowed… @Black Cohort? Anyway, if anyone has any other suggestions, I'm all ears…? Machine God 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 So is there a consensus on where to go next? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 for Astess, 1 for Phelorak, no vote from Necro/Hadrian or AT/Arazakiel as yet (I think?) Don't know if you're taking a vote from Mazer/Ravyx (as he is technically on board?) So far it's Astess, anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I'll have to get a post in, but Arazakiel would be for Astess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381759-a-time-of-reaving-interest/page/23/#findComment-6130810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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