Rumour Blood Angel Boxset

[Tokugawa]

54 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

im the opposite, i hate the sculpted saltires and the would much prefer a more detailed blood angel upgrade sprue that can work for either death company or other.

The total size of the upgrade sprue would be similar to BT and DA ones, it's not very big. Putting DC arms/front chest plate bits in it may cause less or no chance to get "Death company brutalis dreadnought" or "Baal gladiator". Which possibility do you prefer?

Edited March 17 by Tokugawa

[Alternis]

8 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

While this is true, I personally find the existing Primaris DC models pretty insipid and uninspiring. I would like a few parts with some saltires and extra skulls. A few extra weapon options would be nice but I am not holding my breath too hard there. I am not expecting something as rich and detailed as the Firstborn DC but I would hope to see something better than the current Primaris DC offering based on the 8th ed upgrade sprue.

I mean no one expected all the extra hooded head options, and extra bits we got on the DA upgrade sprue

 

it’s a possibility? 

[Nephaston]

I managed to find a picture of the sprue after searching for a bit since GW didn't bother to put some in the shop.

So I spent countless Eons in MSpaint to line out:

• The common stuff like shoulder and heads, as well as the lone power armour weapon arm which will almost guaranteed appear in a similar or maybe slightly lower quantity as well as the non-bike vehicle emblems in Red.
• The gubbins and other small add-ons that might be in whatever number in Yellow.
• The bike stuff which will almost certainly be replaced by something of equal space requirements in Blue.
• The Terminator stuff, which includes the Watcher, which absolutely guaranteed will be used for something spacious in Green.

 

Judging by this masterly act of artistry we can deduce that most of one whole sprue, if not all of it and a bit more is used for bikes and terminators, which should be ample space for various Blood Angel gear. Hell we can even keep the same number of heads for 5 pretty bois and 5 snarling vampy bois.

 

Meaning we can wishlist ad absurdum and it would actually remain reasonable for a while.

[Blindhamster]

11 hours ago, Tokugawa said:

The total size of the upgrade sprue would be similar to BT and DA ones, it's not very big. Putting DC arms/front chest plate bits in it may cause less or no chance to get "Death company brutalis dreadnought" or "Baal gladiator". Which possibility do you prefer?

I’d actually prefer an upgrade sprue didn’t waste space on dreadnought parts, we will get far far fewer useful parts for an army if it has dreadnought bits on there 

[DemonGSides]

Yeah a bespoke dreadnought kit that has its own specialty upgrade sprue would be better than having to share with the power armor upgrade sprue. 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

I think getting a vehicle upgrade kit is more likely. Dreadnought bits including bits to make a libby dread plus flamestorm weapons for a gladiator.

[Kryczek]

Thanks for the sprue breakdown @Nephaston that's handy to know.

 

So I could see red and yellow just swapped to BA.  Green swapped for TH/SS, terminator ancient arm and banner, Karlaen style head and bolter swap bits.  Blue becomes a winged jump pack and a torso.  I agree with @Blindhamster in that I don't ideally want to see vehicle bits on it but I think they might throw in furioso chest wings and/or winged blood drops of varying sizes for vehicles.

 

When it comes to the boxset I think we'll get 2 of these and 2 jump intercessor boxes, a Brutalis and a character.  I'm hoping for a primaris Astorath. 

 

As for the codex I think a lot of folk are going to be upset.  I can potentially see Lemartes and Tycho going legends along with the 1st born DC, DC dread, furioso dread and baal predator.  Sanguinary priests including Corbulo are on a shaky peg as well.  If there is a grail on the upgrade sprue we may find they become just an enhancement for an apothecary.  The only other potential survivor would be the libby dread as there is nothing close to it elsewhere.

 

If the compensation for losing the above is a character and an upgrade sprue then they'll have some unhappy campers.  This is why I think we'll get a new Sanguinor with the codex.  To soften the blow.  If we get the SG as well then our collection is finished and I can't see them doing that. So SG will get kept ala ravenwing. A tease for the future.

 

Just my tuppence worth.

[Karhedron]

The latest rumours from Valrak mention a new Lemartes. Whilst the fluff for him crossing the Rubicon would be shaky, maybe he will be like the BT Castellan who still looks Firstborn.

 

 

I also have a hunch we will keep our specialised Dreadnoughts. Like the DA Speeders, they are still fairly new and there are no direct replacements for these so I think they might survive another edition.

 

Sanguinary Priest is the big unknown at this point. Corbulo feels too important to simply be written out of the lore and the current model is also fairly current.  I hope that they will be sticking around although I suspect that Tycho will finally be getting retired.

[Nephaston]

22 minutes ago, Kryczek said:

Green swapped for TH/SS, terminator ancient arm and banner

Ideally I would hope for Assault Terminators and Terminator Ancients to receive a standalone release, instead of those option being tied to the BA Upgrade. In the case of Termie Ancients perhaps a Terminator Company Heroes kit, but that's just me wishlisting.

 

Rather instead of Terminator gear I can see them repeating the pattern of bits for Death Company; A melee weapon for the Sergeant, maybe a pistol of sorts, and maybe maybe a big weapon for one in five of the maniacs like an eviscerator or a Spear of not-quite-Telesto.

[Jolemai]

On 3/14/2024 at 6:35 PM, Jolemai said:

Folks, if we can keep this on the topic of the rumoured boxset, that would be great.

 

If you want to talk about anything else BA, well, we have a sub-forum for that.

 

Just a reminder folks.

[LittlePlasticHomies]

Do these boxsets ever provide a discount off the aggregate MSRP of the individual kits within?

[DemonGSides]

34 minutes ago, LittlePlasticHomies said:

Do these boxsets ever provide a discount off the aggregate MSRP of the individual kits within?

 

Depends.  Battleforce boxes almost always have savings.  If you're talking about these army boxes like the DA one and the Kroot one, then depends on what you think constitutes value; usually you break even on models, and then make the savings up with either the codex or the datacards or both.

[Karhedron]

37 minutes ago, LittlePlasticHomies said:

Do these boxsets ever provide a discount off the aggregate MSRP of the individual kits within?

 

The DA box was a pretty big saving but only if you wanted all the units. The regular Terminators diluted the value to som extent as people has already got plenty of these cheaply with Leviathan. 

 

But if you are going strictly by discount against buying the same individually, I think that the discount was somewhere around 30%.

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

12 hours ago, LittlePlasticHomies said:

Do these boxsets ever provide a discount off the aggregate MSRP of the individual kits within?

Just reposting my earlier comment for your benefit:

Kroot Box and Deathwing box were both £135. If this box is the following, I think it sounds like a great box:

• Limited Ed. Codex: £20
• Upgrade sprue x 2: £42
• Lemartes (going off dante price): £27.50
• Jump Pack Intercessors x2: £70
• Brutalis: £47.50

Total £207 for £135 sounds great. 

 

All specualtion of course but just my preliminary thoughts.

[LittlePlasticHomies]

11 hours ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

Just reposting my earlier comment for your benefit:

Kroot Box and Deathwing box were both £135. If this box is the following, I think it sounds like a great box:

• Limited Ed. Codex: £20
• Upgrade sprue x 2: £42
• Lemartes (going off dante price): £27.50
• Jump Pack Intercessors x2: £70
• Brutalis: £47.50

Total £207 for £135 sounds great. 

 

All specualtion of course but just my preliminary thoughts.

Thanks! I wasn’t sure if the only benefit was early access or if there was a financial gain to the launch box.

[Chapter Master Valrak]

Just an update, did a new video about the Blood Angel boxset, posted below:

 

Spoiler

 

 

For those of you who don't want to watch me talking about the other things (Release/Space Wolves), here is a sumamry:

23 Models inside

x 1 Astorath

x 1 Lemartes

x 10 Jump Assault Intercessor

x 10Assault Intercessors

x 1 Brutalis

 

BA Upgrade Sprue

Limited Edition Codex

[Dark Shepherd]

Brutalis makes me a bit worried about Furioso dreads...

[DemonGSides]

2 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said:

Brutalis makes me a bit worried about Furioso dreads...

 

It basically already is, but this is Death Company themed.

I don't think we'll be losing our specific dreads.  Those boxes are still being made, and it's got it's own mold/sprue so I'm not worried about them going away quite yet.

11th though.  Yeah.  Probably g'night to the boxy boys.  I'll miss the Librarian Dread.

[Kharn13]

14 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

Just an update, did a new video about the Blood Angel boxset, posted below:

 

  Hide contents

 

 

For those of you who don't want to watch me talking about the other things (Release/Space Wolves), here is a sumamry:

23 Models inside

x 1 Astorath

x 1 Lemartes

x 10 Jump Assault Intercessor

x 10Assault Intercessors

x 1 Brutalis

 

BA Upgrade Sprue

Limited Edition Codex

Praise be!

[Alternis]

52 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

It basically already is, but this is Death Company themed.

I don't think we'll be losing our specific dreads.  Those boxes are still being made, and it's got it's own mold/sprue so I'm not worried about them going away quite yet.

11th though.  Yeah.  Probably g'night to the boxy boys.  I'll miss the Librarian Dread.

I suspect the upgrade sprue will include some DC flair for the Brutalis 

 

very possible we might get rules for a DC keyword for Brutalis (like how repulsors and Bladeguard get Deathwing keyword in inner circle DA detachment) 

 

New rules incoming for Brutalis, hopefully 

[Casual Heresy]

If the content rumour pans out I'll be quite happy. I was planning to get 2 to kick start my new Blood Angels force. I want it to be a classic force of predominantly Jump Pack and Chainsword weilding maniacs so more is always good. Plus I'm okay with an extra Lemartes and Astorath to base some epic kitbash characters on.

[LittlePlasticHomies]

Very fortunate to not have anything in the box and it’s a must for me.

 

If I did have the baseline units I’d probably just wait for the individual characters to come out.

[INKS]

Don't temp me BA... Don't temp me

[jaxom]

Interesting that there’s no unique non-character unit. Maybe no updated Sanguinary Guard?

[DemonGSides]

14 minutes ago, jaxom said:

Interesting that there’s no unique non-character unit. Maybe no updated Sanguinary Guard?

 

Inner Circle Companions didn't come in the DA army box, so we've still got hope for them.

Considering the absolute abundance of Sanguinary Guard rumors, I think we'll still see them.