Rumour Blood Angel Boxset

[Alternis]

3 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

Don’t get me wrong, death company are important. BUT I absolutely hate when GW do rule releases and model releases where it’s the sole focus. Lore wise death company numbers are never that high outside of a few specific warp scenarios causing a company to succumb. 
 

as a result, I’d much prefer to have the sprue focus on the broader blood angel range but have the actual death company rules benefit from a bit of a boost. The old death company models (metal versions in 2nd and 3rd) were good for this, the sculpting on them was blood angel, rather than “death company”. And that’s what I’d prefer. I like to have a squad of them because it’s part of the lore, I don’t like the idea of being shoehorned into death company is what the chapter is… because it isnt

 

basically, I want a broadly applicable sprue, not one that’s going to have dumb sculpted crosses on non death company marines.

 

as far as longer term focus goes, I don’t see the primarch returning. And that’s fine 

 

p.s. not totally sure what a blood angels purist would be, but having played them almost exclusively since 2nd edition outside of a small blip of space wolves briefly in 3rd and a bit of fun with death watch units back when it was an elite choice only. They’re all I’ve ever really done. So I guess I am too.

Touching on the Sanguinius bit just lightly so I don’t take this too far off topic 

GW seem to be focusing on the divergent chapter Primarchs, main codex Primarchs past Guilliman I strongly feel won’t see the light of day until way further down the line. 
 

We’ve had Lion, Russ is rumoured next, so unless Dorn is coming for black Templars I think Sanguinius will be here sooner then we think. 
 

its the same with Chaos with Abbadon for the main codex, Magnus, Mortarion, Angron and now Fulgrim soon. 
GW have shown their hand that Primarch focus is for the big divergent 4 in both loyalist and traitor, that’s pretty evident that’s their plan! 
 

 

anyway back ON TOPIC - I’m inclined to agree but I think when you look at Tau and that big faction focus they got for Kroot despite them being a minor auxillary force, don’t be too shocked if it really does end up being a full on full frontal Death company focused battleforce box 

 

same with Dark Angels it was full dive into Deathwing, green wing and Raven wing weren’t touched at all, with the solo release being Asmodai which if you check his keywords is also Deathwing. 

 

The release as a whole won’t be wholly focused on death company, as we have rumours of 

 

• Sanguinor

• Sanguinary Guard 

 

which are outside the scope of Death company, but the battleforce seems fully focused on DC, but the upgrade sprue may have some extra bits for BA as a whole, of course. 
 

[Blindhamster]

46 minutes ago, Alternis said:

anyway back ON TOPIC - I’m inclined to agree but I think when you look at Tau and that big faction focus they got for Kroot despite them being a minor auxillary force, don’t be too shocked if it really does end up being a full on full frontal Death company focused battleforce box

that’s an important distinction, I’ve no issue with a boxed set being death company focused. So long as the chapter upgrade sprue isn’t tied to death company through stuff like sculpted crosses all over the place that makes it broadly useless for regular blood angels. 
 

Dark angels, for example have nothing other than the terminator piece and gun was particularly deathwing focused. The rest was arguably suited to greenwing 

Edited July 27 by Blindhamster

[Redcomet]

That is a box I would get. Had all the core units and characters I would want for a fun army project 

[Alternis]

54 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

that’s an important distinction, I’ve no issue with a boxed set being death company focused. So long as the chapter upgrade sprue isn’t tied to death company through stuff like sculpted crosses all over the place that makes it broadly useless for regular blood angels. 
 

Dark angels, for example have nothing other than the terminator piece and gun was particularly deathwing focused. The rest was arguably suited to greenwing 

All the shoulder pads, weapons, and flairs needed to turn 10x new terminators into Deathwing Terminators, it was pretty much the majority of the sprue, all that’s left is 1 or 2 back flairs for outrider bikes, and enough to upgrade hoods and shoulders for a box of Hellblasters for DA.

 

apart from that it was all deathwing

[Blindhamster]

I suggest you look again… theres 19 non-terminator pads in there ranging from tacticus, to crusade to gravis.

 

most of the heads aren’t terminator heads either.. 9 in fact (fair argument that the two bladeguard ones are deathwing though)

 

there are four terminator pieces (torso, sword, plasma cannon and a storm bolter casing), two heads and five pads for deathwing in the upgrade set. 
 

there’s a number of generic dark angel gubbins to go on belts and two backpack toppers that aren’t deathwing themed, there’s a few ravenwing details for a biker or two and a number of generic vehicle chapter symbols plus a watcher. And a tacticus armoured power sword 

 

based on the above.

 

id expect a blood angel dreadnought sarcophagus, bits to make a character look like he is in muscled armour, a death company unique weapon and some more generic melee weapons. Maybe we even get an inferno pistol in there. Plus generic gubbins and mostly generic chapter symbol pads covering tacticus, gravis and crusader pattern, I’d like to see some actual assault intercessors style pads (with the rim) though

Edited July 27 by Blindhamster

[DemonGSides]

52 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

blood angel dreadnought sarcophagus

 

This is the one thing I'm a big "I don't think it's gonna happen"; A) Just seems out of place compared to other upgrade sprues for the various Marine factions, and B) It's gonna take up so much room that it'll eat other opportunities (Such as longer Encarmine style power swords) due to how much sprue space it'll take up

[Blindhamster]

Tbh, I wouldn’t be unhappy to be wrong there, but also wouldn’t be surprised to see one, I’m assuming just the flat piece which is, an overall, relatively thin piece.

 

but anyway, yeah I shall no doubt (try to) get the box because blood angels! 
 

im really hoping for a decent update for astorath, he’s a cool character. I’m kinda ambivalent about lemartes, I think they’ll struggle to beat his current model

[Cleon]

It sort of makes me miss old forgeworld (but not, because Resin), who would be doing the alternate Chapter specific dreaadnought bits.

[Alternis]

2 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I suggest you look again… theres 19 non-terminator pads in there ranging from tacticus, to crusade to gravis.

 

most of the heads aren’t terminator heads either.. 9 in fact (fair argument that the two bladeguard ones are deathwing though)

 

there are four terminator pieces (torso, sword, plasma cannon and a storm bolter casing), two heads and five pads for deathwing in the upgrade set. 
 

there’s a number of generic dark angel gubbins to go on belts and two backpack toppers that aren’t deathwing themed, there’s a few ravenwing details for a biker or two and a number of generic vehicle chapter symbols plus a watcher. And a tacticus armoured power sword 

 

based on the above.

 

id expect a blood angel dreadnought sarcophagus, bits to make a character look like he is in muscled armour, a death company unique weapon and some more generic melee weapons. Maybe we even get an inferno pistol in there. Plus generic gubbins and mostly generic chapter symbol pads covering tacticus, gravis and crusader pattern, I’d like to see some actual assault intercessors style pads (with the rim) though

I’m still at work atm so I went off memory from when I bought the Deathwing assault box, but I will recheck when I’m back in. 

[Karhedron]

9 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I’m kinda ambivalent about lemartes, I think they’ll struggle to beat his current model

 

As long as we don't go back towards this, it should be fine. 

 

[CL_Mission]

57 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

As long as we don't go back towards this, it should be fine. 

This was the coolest thing to me back in the day, now he looks positively adorable.

[Casual Heresy]

A small tidbit that might confirm some release rumours: The Sanguinor is now sold out online on the UK store. Lemartes is listed as temporarily out of stock. Could just be reboxing of course. 
 

It’s little more than minor hype fuel but have the fun of discussing rumours is slowly connecting the evidence. But as his lordship @Chapter Master Valrak says “rumours are lies” until GW reveals the truth. 

 

[Blindhamster]

Astorath is still on sale though, as are the death company.

 

i think valraks guess is currently something like September right, presumably if it’s true, they’ll be shown at one of the upcoming shows 

[Captain Idaho]

The latest Lemartes is one of the best Chaplains going so I doubt we'll get anything as good as that again.

 

New Sanguinor will be golden. Pun intended.

 

Wonder if he'll be a shining beacon model or something a little edgier and darker?

[Blindhamster]

Sanguinor will be shining beacon, rumour is basically the same as the existing one but updated scale.

 

i am hoping sanguinor goes full physical wings. Considering the origin of him as sanguinius’ herald that literally sprouts wings as sanguinius leaves him holding a rift closed.

 

i am looking forward to him a lot honestly! I’m fine with his scale not changing to primarch size personally. He’s literally a marine infused with warp energy. But rule wise I’d love for him to have even a slight ability to do what his lore says he can do (including soloing a greater demon lol).

 

current lemartes is indeed an exceptional model and unlikely to be equalled by a replacement, let alone topped. Best we can hope for there is that it’s close to as good… apparently his new pose is a “come at me” pose like wolverine takes.. not sure how to take that.

 

astorath apparently looks similar pose to current one. I was hoping he’d be like his existing art with the axe being mid side swing rather than overhead, I think the existing art is so good for him!

 

im really interested to see how the new sanguinary guard look personally, I’m hoping they’re heavily made to look good beside Dante as that’s really their job in the lore (to fight alongside him! Not necessarily to look good!)

 

Valrak did mention we are getting a character kit too, a captain like the devastation of Baal cover. Interested to see that personally! (I don’t need another captain really… but you know.. gotta catch em all)

[Captain Idaho]

I'm not that much of a fan of current Astorath so I think a new one will be solid, personally speaking. The new Dante was good so it should be a moment of optimism.

 

I'm very interested in what new Sanguinor we get.

 

Hmm. Wonder if he'll be the BA version of a Primarch? Like, enlarged through warp energy... I mean faith in the Primarch.

[Borbarad]

3 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

As long as we don't go back towards this, it should be fine. 

 

That dangling rosarius makes for a more intimidating weapon than his scrawny crozius 

[Alternis]

14 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

I suggest you look again… theres 19 non-terminator pads in there ranging from tacticus, to crusade to gravis.

 

most of the heads aren’t terminator heads either.. 9 in fact (fair argument that the two bladeguard ones are deathwing though)

 

there are four terminator pieces (torso, sword, plasma cannon and a storm bolter casing), two heads and five pads for deathwing in the upgrade set. 
 

there’s a number of generic dark angel gubbins to go on belts and two backpack toppers that aren’t deathwing themed, there’s a few ravenwing details for a biker or two and a number of generic vehicle chapter symbols plus a watcher. And a tacticus armoured power sword 

 

based on the above.

 

id expect a blood angel dreadnought sarcophagus, bits to make a character look like he is in muscled armour, a death company unique weapon and some more generic melee weapons. Maybe we even get an inferno pistol in there. Plus generic gubbins and mostly generic chapter symbol pads covering tacticus, gravis and crusader pattern, I’d like to see some actual assault intercessors style pads (with the rim) though

Yeah sprue looks like it’s half and half. 
so should be half DC focused, half blood angel general stuff. 

[Blindhamster]

15 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said:

I'm not that much of a fan of current Astorath so I think a new one will be solid, personally speaking. The new Dante was good so it should be a moment of optimism.

 

I'm very interested in what new Sanguinor we get.

 

Hmm. Wonder if he'll be the BA version of a Primarch? Like, enlarged through warp energy... I mean faith in the Primarch.

Valrak says what he got told was no, he’s not bigger

[SvenIronhand]

Isn't Lemartes Finecast? A new model would be worth the transition to plastic alone.

[The Unseen]

16 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said:

Isn't Lemartes Finecast? A new model would be worth the transition to plastic alone.

He was pewter first, and for those lucky enough to get him, a fantastic model 

[Mostwanted]

As a Blood Angel collector, I feel I've been waiting for this update for so many years. I'm trying not to hype it up to much in my head as I really don't want to be disappointed.

 

The thought of Sanguinary Guard going to 3 models was initially quite disappointing. But I'm assuming we can still take 6 in a unit. If there is enough customisation in the kit that all 6 can look distinctive, I can take that. I don't think I'm too disappointed in the rumour that they are losing their wings. I remember when they first came out, I thought the wings looked a bit ridiculous and unnecessary (I grew use to them but still think they would have been better without).

 

I'm pretty intrigued as to what our upgrade sprue includes. I really hope it's the same as the Dark Angels one in regards to all the different embossed shoulder pads for the different armour variants. I know it's supposed to be Death Company themed but I really don't want the crosses to be carved into the pads. I'm happy painting them and using good old masking tape, so it doesn't limit what units they go on.

 

As for vehicle parts on the sprue, I would be OK with a Dreadnought sarcophagus cover or two being added as they wouldn't take up too much room. It's the outer cover that would limit what else they could fit on the sprue as that would take up a fair bit more space.

 

I'm also interested to see what new decal sheet we get. I hope there is plenty of variety on it and that it covers all companies.

[Karhedron]

I am just about to add a squad of Heavy Intercessors but I am now holding off in case of some nice Gravis-sized pads on the sprue. 

[WrathOfTheLion]

I'll probably pick the box up if it is as described, although I don't really need Lemartes or Astorath, as I'm painting Lamenters. Just like with Dante though, they're nice to have and cool models to have.

 

Subsequently, I don't particularly care about the shoulderpads, as I'd use decals. It would be quite nice if, like the DA transfer sheet, there are decals for a few successor chapters.

Edited July 28 by WrathOfTheLion

[Kharn13]

WarCom mentioned a devine reveal this week… BA??

 

Next week on Warhammer Community, we’ve got articles about the Mechanicum and a divine reveal that cannot be missed. 
 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/28/sunday-preview-devastation-comes-to-tallarn/