01RTB01 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 That makes sense. I've always advocated rule of cool. Meta chasing is a fool's dream (in my humble view). There was a reason I played kakophoni in heresy 1.0 when they were released with book 2 and it sure as heck wasn't their rules. Evil Eye, LSM, Casual Heresy and 4 others 2 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Rules are temporary, models are forever (when you've bought them anyway) Interrogator Stobz, 01RTB01, Robbienw and 9 others 1 7 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Bring them all to Legends. Looking forward to not needing to buy a codex for my green Marines ever again. derLumpi, FarFromSam, CastellanDeMolay and 3 others 2 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 26 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: Bring them all to Legends. Looking forward to not needing to buy a codex for my green Marines ever again. Lol GW will probably only grant legends access to the rules in the app if you own the codex... Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 7 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Lol GW will probably only grant legends access to the rules in the app if you own the codex... They will almost certainly remain available as a free download pdf. Not everyone cares about the app. (I use it, but many don’t) Antarius, Evil Eye and Interrogator Stobz 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said: Rules are temporary, models are forever (when you've bought them anyway) This is the way. Personally I'm building my Marines to be visually classic Astartes but playable as Primaris. Intercessors are easily stood in for with upscaled Tacticals, Assault Intercessors similarly. And most of the other units are either similarly easy to stand in with converted upscaled Marines with minimal work, or so conceptually stupid that no amount of conversion or tabletop performance will make them palatable, and thus will not be considered anyway. Only tricky part will be vehicles; Dreadnoughts I can deal with (the Leviathan chassis works well as a basis for a less nasal Redemptor) but the grav tanks might take a bit more work- especially if they have rules that would make tracked conversions weird on the table. If the Rhino and Land Raider really are getting a refresh that's great at least. ZeroWolf, phandaal and Interrogator Stobz 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 28 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Lol GW will probably only grant legends access to the rules in the app if you own the codex... LoL, wouldn't be surprised. Luckily New Recruit doesn't care. But it would be nice to have either Pdf or proper app support for my Legendary lads. Getting them all in one place is the key to ocd happiness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 21 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: LoL, wouldn't be surprised. Luckily New Recruit doesn't care. But it would be nice to have either Pdf or proper app support for my Legendary lads. Getting them all in one place is the key to ocd happiness. I think it depends if you want the in-game tracker and access to your opponents list as well. You'll end up using maybe 3 apps instead of 1 without the GW one I think. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Yeah, that's the bit having them in the GeeDub app will be great Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6172998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) Heres hoping that we dont lose a bunch of Legends options this time around like we have in previous editions changes. I think a decent amount of the angst over things going to Legends would ease if we could trust that the legends rules would stick around, rather than it being a final stop before squatsville. Edited May 29 by ThaneOfTas Crimson Longinus, phandaal, Maritn and 3 others 2 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 13 hours ago, Orange Knight said: It's why I always suggest to people to buy the models they like as opposed to the ones that have great rules at any given time... Yeah, this is 100% the way to go. I'd still be sad to see the Vindicator go, as it's one of my favorite models/concepts and one that I don't think is easily replacable. Maritn, Lord Marshal, Xirix and 4 others 4 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Saturday at 01:31 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:31 AM On 5/28/2026 at 9:13 AM, Crimson Longinus said: GW probably wanted to sell their last already produced Vindicator kits before legending them... It's been good quite literally the whole edition so if that's really what you think their reasoning was, you're giving GW a lot of credit for forward thinking. Antarius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Sunday at 04:11 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:11 PM On 5/30/2026 at 2:31 AM, DemonGSides said: It's been good quite literally the whole edition so if that's really what you think their reasoning was, you're giving GW a lot of credit for forward thinking. It has been good all edition, but it's become great in the last year due to how the game has developed and the kinds of threats being faced on the tabletop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted Sunday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:11 PM Since Rhino is getting refresh will it also apply to Sisters of Battle Rhino? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted Sunday at 07:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:22 PM 2 hours ago, Dezron said: Since Rhino is getting refresh will it also apply to Sisters of Battle Rhino? Who can say? The AS' Rhino and its variants are built on top of the base SM Rhino kit, so maybe? Alternatively a new Rhino could maintain compatibility with their upgrade sprues and get packed in with identical upgrades, or GW could have two Rhino chassis in production at the same time if they decide the existing Rhino scales well with the current Sisters. Really, anything could happen at this point. Paturabo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM 24 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said: Really, anything could happen at this point. Including Sisters getting their own unique transport? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted Sunday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:19 PM (edited) If they bring back the Repressor they can sell it to Sisters and Agents (Arbites) players at least. FWIW all the Rhino parts of the Immolator are on it's unique sprue(s) rather than shared unlike the SoB Rhino just being an extra one tossed in. Edited Sunday at 08:20 PM by Lord Marshal ZeroWolf, MoriyaSchism, Focslain and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted Tuesday at 10:46 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:46 AM (edited) Space Marines: Captain on Bike Multi-part Outriders with new weapon options Venerable Dreadnought No Lieutenant on Bike? Orks: New Battlewagon New Trukk New Burna Boyz New Lootas Nazdreg Model Kill Team Nob team WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!! Rumor about Sisters of Battle getting horse(-like) cavalry. Edited Tuesday at 10:46 AM by Dezron Lord Marshal and HolyPestilience 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted Tuesday at 11:51 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:51 AM New Primaris Ven Dread would appropiately make Bjorn of the very last first born dreads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezron Posted Tuesday at 11:56 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:56 AM 3 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said: New Primaris Ven Dread would appropiately make Bjorn of the very last first born dreads And then he gets upgraded with Space Wolves codex release. Maybe they'll even put him in Contemptor. HolyPestilience 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted Tuesday at 12:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:02 PM Pretty keen to see Nazdreg, he's a fun character. Would be a disappointment if they didn't end up using this opportunity to refresh the Meganobz kit too. Lord Marshal, HolyPestilience, 01RTB01 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:50 PM (edited) It's interesting that the new Core Rules pdf for 11th Edition shows the following on pages 6-7: - Whirlwind - Vindicator - Rhino - Baal Predator - Land Raider and Redeemer - Stormraven So that suggests to me that these models are staying around at least for the early part of 11th edition....although there is also an old-style Drop Pod in there and so maybe they just did not think through the model selection completely. Seems odd to miss that in such an important photo, in the sense of the first large photo in the new edition. Edited Tuesday at 01:53 PM by OrkPlayer137 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted Tuesday at 02:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:19 PM 27 minutes ago, OrkPlayer137 said: It's interesting that the new Core Rules pdf for 11th Edition shows the following on pages 6-7: - Whirlwind - Vindicator - Rhino - Baal Predator - Land Raider and Redeemer - Stormraven So that suggests to me that these models are staying around at least for the early part of 11th edition....although there is also an old-style Drop Pod in there and so maybe they just did not think through the model selection completely. Seems odd to miss that in such an important photo, in the sense of the first large photo in the new edition. It's also possible that the decision to legends those units came later than when the photo was taken. I wouldn't put much stock in it but on the other hand, we don't know if the runours themselves are true until GW show their hand. What will be, will be. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Tuesday at 05:17 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:17 PM Multipart outriders are long overdue as is a bike captain. Venerable dreadnought... would love it if we could get chapter specific ones like Forgeworld of yesterdecades ZeroWolf and CastellanDeMolay 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM (edited) Oh well, guess I can still use crucible rules for the rest (once I get to converting some. (thinking of putting the Techmarine on an atv with a real big servo arm) Edited Tuesday at 08:41 PM by Nephaston phandaal, HeadlessCross, Ramell and 5 others 2 4 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387821-valrak-2026-release-rumours-video/page/29/#findComment-6173468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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