MoriyaSchism Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 9 minutes ago, Crimson Longinus said: And is the best looking marine power fist! I'm going to have to disagree with that. It's oddly segmented and looks like something the squats would use. 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I get the impression I'm the only one that really likes the Aquillon Terminators. Yes, they are static looking, but in a way that makes them look regal and sophisticated. I even like their proportions... 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptekon Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 21 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: I get the impression I'm the only one that really likes the Aquillon Terminators. Yes, they are static looking, but in a way that makes them look regal and sophisticated. I even like their proportions... Sure but can anyone answer me why they are painting them copper? Is this what lore says? The copper does not look like gold, and it does not look like bronze, and it reminds me of those plastic toys that look like they were trying to be metal, and copper at that. I'd say it's not befitting a custode. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: I get the impression I'm the only one that really likes the Aquillon Terminators. They are ok, but I much prefer their FW aesthetic based on the Sabertooth HH Card Game art. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 20 hours ago, Adeptekon said: Sure but can anyone answer me why they are painting them copper? Is this what lore says? The copper does not look like gold, and it does not look like bronze, and it reminds me of those plastic toys that look like they were trying to be metal, and copper at that. I'd say it's not befitting a custode. While it's true that in reality most 'gold' branded paints are closer to copper or bronze, if you told most people to go and pick out a gold paint they'd immediately reach for Retributor Armour or similar. I don't think it's much more complicated than that. If GW suddenly started painting gold using Vince Venturella's now semi-famous gold recipe, a lot of people would be asking 'why are Custodes brass instead of gold now? Are GW stupid?' Edited September 20 by Lord Marshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Longinus Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 They look bad in gold anyway. Would look much better in the original black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 On 9/18/2026 at 9:35 PM, Halandaar said: Honestly I'm actually kind of impressed by a number of things here: making the model line "official" for both systems, expanding the 40K roster to include units that were previously Heresy only, and implementing changes that should significantly reduce the number of minis fielded in a game (and therefore reduce the cost of playing the army) are all very unlike the GW of the last ten years or so. Agreed. Small armies have the side-effect of being more attractive to collect due to the lower time and cash investment. I hope this won't lead to the absurd situation that armies that should be rare by lore will be extremely commonplace in practice and vice-versa for horde armies. 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptekon Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Just make them Platinum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 7 hours ago, Borbarad said: Agreed. Small armies have the side-effect of being more attractive to collect due to the lower time and cash investment. I hope this won't lead to the absurd situation that armies that should be rare by lore will be extremely commonplace in practice and vice-versa for horde armies. Well that laready is the case and does happen. They need to make horde elements represented by other means such a recycling units that keep coming back or units that repopulate as the game goes on. A faction where you need to spend 4 times as much to get a game ready, alongside 4 times as long building and painting, where in the current climate you exist to have them die a lot and achieve little individually is a tough sell honestly. 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griefbringer Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Space Marines, despite their small number in the background, have been rather heavily represented on the table top since time the early days of 40K. Besides needing limited numbers, they have also been quite straightforward to model and paint, if you wanted to keep things quick and simple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I've seen the poses compared to Star Wars Stormtroopers. The standing straight, and then raised arm with blaster is very close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Some more sus rumours doing the discord rounds 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 spicy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Why does Trajann have more hard-hitting attacks than both loyalist Primarchs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 26 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Why does Trajann have more hard-hitting attacks than both loyalist Primarchs? He won the blood games twice, something no one else has ever done. In lore he's considered to be a potent fighter the equal of primarchs, and is considered the deadliest single warrior in the entire Imperium. He's been glazed a lot of in the Custodes lore, so I think his statline should be pretty impressive. 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 34 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Why does Trajann have more hard-hitting attacks than both loyalist Primarchs? Maybe that's under the influence of the Moment Shackle; which would be limited use only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 29 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Why does Trajann have more hard-hitting attacks than both loyalist Primarchs? It sort of sits in the middle iirc? More powerful than the Primarchs sweep (ignoring dev wounds on the sword for gman) and worse but more numerous than the smash profile. That said it does seem a bit much, but given a standard spear is s8 ap-2 d2 6 attacks, I don't think their "primarch equivalent unit" ala ghaz having that profile is *that* wild. After a look it's probably worse than ghaz who has S14, cleave 2, dev wounds and only 2 fewer attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 51 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: It sort of sits in the middle iirc? More powerful than the Primarchs sweep (ignoring dev wounds on the sword for gman) and worse but more numerous than the smash profile. That said it does seem a bit much, but given a standard spear is s8 ap-2 d2 6 attacks, I don't think their "primarch equivalent unit" ala ghaz having that profile is *that* wild. After a look it's probably worse than ghaz who has S14, cleave 2, dev wounds and only 2 fewer attacks. Ghaz, the "PrimeOrk," should be on a similar level to the Primarchs. We know from established lore that the Orks can attain increible power. The Custodes are great, but I have never seen any lore that put any of them on equal ability to any Primarch. In the novel "The Silent King" the Custodian who protects Guilliman, a master warrior by the name "Colquan," spends time practicing drills for defeating Guilliman in combat, and he admits that he is unable to do so under any scenario that involves a direct confrontation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 18 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Ghaz, the "PrimeOrk," should be on a similar level to the Primarchs. We know from established lore that the Orks can attain increible power. The Custodes are great, but I have never seen any lore that put any of them on equal ability to any Primarch. In the novel "The Silent King" the Custodian who protects Guilliman, a master warrior by the name "Colquan," spends time practicing drills for defeating Guilliman in combat, and he admits that he is unable to do so under any scenario that involves a direct confrontation. I don't think it matters, his current profile is 6 attacks S10 ap-2 d3 and we know custodes are getting the "becoming more elite" treatment, so the only way to go is up. I don't see why the head of the custodes being a singular step down from a primarch and close in stature to ghaz is an issue. Reminder that a human with a power klaw has beaten ghaz in the past, he was recently decapitated by ragnar with a relic chainsword. If that's on par with a primarch this is fine for Trajann. 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Trajann is the foremost of the Custodes, he's probably nearly at or at the Level of Valdor. Valdor was getting towards primarch level. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Valdor was essentially 1 half step down from Primarch in combat skill, but didn't have all the mental hangups that the Primarchs did. We know that Valdor dueled a young Alpharius in Alpharius: Head of the Hydra and in The Master of Mankind, it says Valdor "was considered an equal of the primarchs themselves in matters of blade-work." The current Captain-General is no King in Yellow Valdor, but Valoris should be able to wipe the floor with anyone short of the Lion in the 40k setting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternis Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mogger351 said: Some more sus rumours doing the discord rounds I can assure you with Trajan having a stat line comparable to a Primarch, he will absolutely not be below 300 points at “minimum” That alone should have put alarm bells in peoples heads to the dubiousness of these rumours. Edited September 23 by Alternis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 14 minutes ago, Alternis said: I can assure you with Trajan having a stat line comparable to a Primarch, he will absolutely not be below 300 points at “minimum” That alone should have put alarm bells in peoples heads to the dubiousness of these rumours. 3 days ago the lion as 335 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 So these rumors are all porkies. We can extrapolate and make educated guesses for characters like Valdor. I would imagine: M8, T7, 2+ 4++, W9, LD5+, OC1 His axe would be 7 attacks, Str10, Ap-3, Damage 3, Lethal Hits If you look at the Power Talon on the Aquilon, it doesn't have a crazy profile, and if you look at Marines not all weapons balooned in power. 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternis Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 10 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: 3 days ago the lion as 335 points. Review copies sent out to 3rd parties are provisional points costs, they are not final, never are. But the OP of the Custodes rumours has come out to admit all of it was made up and fake. There shouldn’t be a further debate on it past that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388525-custodes-rumours/page/6/#findComment-6188770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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