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  1. Sorry if this seems like a daft question but after 6-7 years away I've come back and was going to make up a few Veteran troops for my small force which were to have come from the first company but after going through the new Space Marines book (8.5) I'm totally bamboozled. It briefly mentions vet' intercessors, then has a full on spread over them all being Vanguard, Sternguard, Termies etc but no mention of the new Primarus ranges. I figure okay maybe it's some of their elites but no, they've pictures of all the elites and none have the trim for first company on any pictures. In fact I can't find any pictures other than the old 1st company photo's that have the white trim anywhere. So if I read it right their can't be any of the Primarus range in this company which makes no sense as you have complete Primarus chapters only, or have GW just made the first company no better than any other company now. (IE: have they taken out the elitism and unique nature of this company even though the book specifically mentions them as the Vet's). I'm trying to create some for my Imp' Fists successor chapter so any clarity is appreciated. Cheers Thalidar
  2. With the release of Arks of Omen and increased flexibility in building army lists using Elites and no Troops if needed, I thought it time we recisted the concept of an all 1st Company Space Marine list. Days gone past this usually worked as an excuse for players to take Terminators and little else, but I think with the amount of other units we can mix into the list we have some flexibility to be fairly competitive in light of the superior Terminator lists of the Dark Angels. So before we go onto that part of the discussion, I suppose we should start with what constitutes a valid 1st Company Ultramarine choice. In my mind, primarily it's as follows from the Codex: Firstborn HQ • Captains of all types (we should concentrate on Terminator Captains for theme, though it's possible he could have brought his choppper along) • Chaplains (again, let's concentrate on Terminators but we have flexibility) • Librarians (again, whack them in Terminator Armour where we can) • Lieutenant ELITES • Apothecary • Ancient in Terminator Armour • Company Champion • Venerable Dreadnought • Relic Terminator squad • Terminator squad • Terminator Assault squad • Sternguard Veterans • Vanguard Veterans • Contemptor Dreadnought • Tyrannic War Veterans • Company Veterans HEAVY SUPPORT • Land Raider • Land Raider Crusader • Land Raider Redeemer DEDICATED TRANSPORT • Rhino • Razorback • Drop Pod HONOURABLE MENTIONS • Honour Guard • Chapter Champion • Chapter Ancient • Chaplain Cassius • Captain Sicarius Note I deliberately missed out the Company Ancient because we have access to a more thematic representative in the Terminator Ancient. Likewise, I missed out the Dreadnought and Ironclad because the Venerable and Contemptor Dreadnoughts exist and are more suited to the theme. The Honourable Mentions are Chapter Command and not strictly speaking 1st Company, but secondment goes hand in hand just like a Librarian so I wouldn't consider them to be out of character or theme. Note Sicarius is now the commander of the Victrix Guard, so can join the 1st Company in much the same way as other characters. Primaris HQ • Primaris Captains (Tacticus armour and NOT Phobos armour! The theme's not 10 Company!) • Primaris Captain in Gravis armour • Primaris Chaplain (he could use the bike) • Primaris Lieutenant • Primaris Librarian ELITES • Bladeguard Ancient • Bladeguard Veterans • Primaris Apothecary • Veteran Intercessor squad • Redemptor Dreadnought HEAVY SUPPORT • Repulsor • Repulsor Executioner DEDICATED TRANSPORT • Impulsor HONOURABLE MENTIONS • Marneus Calgar • Chief Librarian Tigurius • Victrix Guard • Judiciar As with Firstborn, the more thematic choices such as Bladeguard Anciet trumps the ordinary Primaris Ancient, but if you really want to, go there but you should have a decent theme in mind. Hopefully that's nice and easy to read and choose from. Competitively speaking, I think all Primaris 1st Company will be notably weaker than a standard Marine list, as you just can't build enough squads with the rule of three and you are severely limited in choices. Aside from, that build what makes you happy. Oh yeah, plus we can add Guilliman More to follow.
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