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I'm going to put links to any of my tutorials at the start of this thread for easy navigation. Below this will be the original first post. Greenstuff Smoothing Video Greenstuff Smoothing Video 2 Making capes from tissue Changing model colors in Photoshop A better paint stripper than Simple Green. Let's get this going again. Starting off with the 4 Iron Warriors Chaos Lords I'll be trying to complete for Grotsmasha's Captain Conversion Challenge, one for each chaos god. First up, Maesteros, follower of Slaanesh and the path of martial perfection. http://i.imgur.com/v8JToIv.jpg Parts list so far is finecast legs from the beaky Sternguard, Khorne Berzerker torso with the lower beltbuckle area cut away and replaced with a length of plastic tubing to elongate the abdomen, Mark IV Maximus helm from Red Scorpions veteran upgrade pack, and a chaos marine left arm. The crest has been removed from the helm and armor studs added to differentiate it somewhat from the loyalist version. Unlike what the fluff tells us about Chaos Marines, I think they would all be scavenging any loyalists they killed, and there will be parts from all over the various marine kits that I own used in these conversions to reflect that. http://i.imgur.com/dbUXWpA.jpg More GS work on the legs and foot, and I removed the studs from the leg because they looked like crap and replaced them with the same .05 rivets I used on the helm. I like the bigger armor studs anyway. I tried to modify the face plate of the helmet to bulk it up a bit make the eye area look more sinister, but after a few days of looking at it now, I'm not sure if I like it. http://i.imgur.com/WDEpdpQ.jpg Finally getting around to decorating the chest. Small cuts from a strip of plastic half-round for the anchor points of the tubes, which will be covered up later with GS. Hooray for the tube making tool! Also, tip of the hat to Darth Potato for showing me the picture that inspired the chest decorations: http://i.imgur.com/hsDcdWU.jpg Evolution of the polearm he's using: http://i.imgur.com/IMyQpjP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oBU0K0k.jpg It was originally way too long, so I shortened it up and changed the angle that it sits at, but it might still be a bit too long. Still have no idea what to do for the right arm. Next up is Borgestus, follower of Nurgle, and a few shots of trial poses for him: http://i.imgur.com/kuwvKnw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/nIJcvRa.jpg I really wanted a two-handed pose, but it's proving to be a lot more difficult than I thought it would be, thanks to the bulkiness of the terminator armor, so it will probably be the second pose or maybe another variation. I've also done a lot of work on building a new torso for this guy, and I'll try to have progress pictures of that posted later today. Parts list as shown is loyalist termie legs (because the chaos termie legs all look HORRIBLE), chaos termie toso, and GK head and arms. As of now, the torso front is from a GK and has been chopped up and modified quite a lot. Last, is Varko, follower of the Blood God. I originally thought of giving him a very still and static pose to contrast the raging fury most Khorne marines are modeled with, but most of the Four are already going to be posed like that, and what can I say? I love action poses. So, going way back to the hallowed antiquity of 40k for the inspiration: http://i.imgur.com/ppc34uB.jpg I've always liked that art for the sense of frenetic motion it imparts, and I think GW tried to capture that feel with their plastic berzerkers and failed miserably. Instead of this, we got marines with ork hands that looked like they're ice skating. My rough sketch of Varko: http://i.imgur.com/E1eNPL9.jpg The right arm has no hand on it because I'm going to have to do a lot of work on it to get the pose I'm wanting, but I stuck it on there to check the overall balance of the figure. My first idea was to give him twin lightning claws, but, I gotta be honest, it's a real pain in the butt trying to get a pose with those things that doesn't look goofy, aside from the Wolverine pose with the hands out to the side, of which there have already been several figures from GW with that pose and I didn't want to replicate it. Instead, he'll be hefting two power axes and my bits order for the second one should be here in a few days. Parts list is loyalist assault legs (because the khorne berzerker ones suck and they've never made a good replacement for chaos), chaos torso that may or may not change, right arm from BA Death Company, left arm from FW Red Scorpion veteran upgrade pack, and head from FW Khorne Berzerker upgrade pack with the Ears of Khorne™ removed, and the axe is from a one of the Chosen in the Dark Vengeance box set. As always, thanks for looking. -BCK

Hi all, this is my first post and I am looking for some advice/critiques of some lists. I'm creating two VIII Legion lists for the Horus Heresy Narrative Event at the Las Vegas Open in 2024. Before I jump into the lists I will explain some of the specific rules for the event to better help with some of the oddities from normal list building. 1. Praetor Consul: When purchasing a Praetor for a Legion you may, in lieu of a paragon blade, pay the Consul upgrade cost from the Consul Options available to Legion Centurions. The cost is the same as the Consul upgrade and will provide your Praetor with all of the benefits/limitations that Consul upgrade is associated with - excluding any Consul rules that prevent the Consul from being the Warlord. 2. List Size and Construction: Day 1 = 2,500 pts., Day 2 = 2,000 pts.. Day 2's list must use unit entries from Day 1. You do not have to take every unit entry and they can be modified (size, wargear etc.), but you cannot take more or different unit entries than was included in your Day 1 list. 3. Forbidden: Primarchs, Unique Characters, Titans, and/or Drop Pods. The Idea I wanted to create a force based on a proto-Raptor Cult that used the Age of Darkness box (primarily the 40 infantry), and maximised on the VIII Legion's traits (fear mechanics, pinning and out-numbering). The Lore in General Inductii are brought into the unit and those that survive/thrive in close combat are elevated to Assualt Legionaries, those less predisposed are relegated to Reconnaisance. The Assault Legionaries that excel are selected to become Chosen which is the begining of a Raptor Cult. Note: I've used Inductii over regular Despoilers because I think their rules are really thematic and the breaching 6+ is nice. I also wanted to include Night Raptors instead of Assault Squads, but they cost too many points and didn't really make for a well-rounded force. The Lists Day 1 List (2,500 pts): Night Lords - Allegience: Traitors Rite of War: Terror Assault HQ Praetor (190 pts.) - Warlord: Flaymaster - Pair of Lightning Claws - Warhawk Jump Pack - Chaplain Consul Upgrade Praetor's Retinue: Command Squad with Warhawk Jump Packs (294 pts.) - 7x Chosen (2x Power Fist, 1 with Combat Shield + 3x Paired Lightning Claws, 1 with Legion Standard + 1x Charnabal Sabre + 1x Chainsword) Centurion: Librarian (125 pts.) - Force Axe - Warhawk Jump Pack - Psychic Discipline: Telepathy Centurion: Master of Signals (95 pts.) - No upgrades ELITES 2x Contemptor Dreadnought (180 pts. ea.) - Gravis Melta Cannon and Gravis Power Fist with Combi-Bolter on ea. TROOPS 2x Assault Squad (165 pts. ea.) - 10x Legionaries (Sergeant with Artificer Armour and Chainsword, 2x Power Lance) in both squads 2x Despoiler Squad - Inductii (200 pts. ea.) - 19x Despoilers (Legion Vexilla) in both squads 1x Reconnaissance Squad - A (140 pts.) - 5x Legionaries (4x Nemesis Bolters + Preysight) 1x Reconnaissance Squad - B (135 pts.) - 5x Legionaries (5x Nemesis Bolters) FAST ATTACK 2x Proteus Land Speeder (70 pts. ea.) - 1x Graviton Gun on ea. HEAVY SUPPORT 2x Vindicators in a Squadron (290 pts. total) - Magna Laser Destroyer and Dozer Blade on ea. + Preysight Day 2 List (2,000 pts.): Night Lords - Allegience: Traitors Rite of War: Terror Assault HQ Praetor (190 pts.) - Warlord: Flaymaster - Pair of Lightning Claws - Warhawk Jump Pack - Chaplain Consul Upgrade Praetor's Retinue: Command Squad with Warhawk Jump Packs (294 pts.) - 5x Chosen (1x Power Fist with Combat Shield + 3x Paired Lightning Claws, 1 with Legion Standard + 1x Chainsword with Combat Shield) Centurion: Librarian (125 pts.) - Force Axe - Warhawk Jump Pack - Psychic Discipline: Telepathy Centurion: Master of Signals (95 pts.) - No upgrades ELITES 1x Contemptor Dreadnought (180 pts.) - Gravis Melta Cannon and Gravis Power Fist with Combi-Bolter TROOPS 1x Assault Squad - A (165 pts.) - 10x Legionaries (Sergeant with Artificer Armour and Chainsword, 2x Power Lance) 1x Assualt Squad - B (160 pts.) - 10x Legionaries (Sergeant with Artificer Armour and Chainsword, 1x Power Lance) 2x Despoiler Squad - Inductii (150 pts. ea.) - 14x Despoilers (Legion Vexilla) in both squads 1x Reconnaissance Squad - A (140 pts.) - 5x Legionaries (4x Nemesis Bolters + Preysight) 1x Reconnaissance Squad - B (135 pts.) - 5x Legionaries (5x Nemesis Bolters) HEAVY SUPPORT 2x Vindicators in a Squadron (290 pts. total) - Magna Laser Destroyer and Dozer Blade on ea. + Preysight The Plan - Flexible deployment options with potential to deepstrike and pin, supported by the Master of Signals. Deepstrike all or nothinig (Praetor+Retinue, Assault Squads+Librarian, and Proteus Land Speeders). - Recon Squads hold deployment zone objectives and target enemy leaders to cause pinning. Master of Signals is attached to Recon Squad - B to give the shooting boost. Master of Signals is also able to assist a morale roll each turn (will probably be the LD 7 Despoilers). - Despoiler Squads and Contemptors move up the board together. Despoilers go for objectives with secondary task to tarpit 2+ units. Contemptors target vehicles > WS4 2+ > dreads. - Vindicators remain outside of 24" and target vehicles > dreads > WS5 2+. - Assault Squads target critical WS4 3+ units (Heavy Support Squads), assisted by Librarian to shut down overwatch and Land Speeders to reduce WS. After this they will grab objectives or finish off damaged units. - Land Speeders reduce WS (concussive) > vehicles > absorb overwatch. - Praetor and retinue initially target weaker units to build Fear 2/3 bubble then use movement to pile into other combat (WS5 3+ > WS4 3+ > 2+). Primary focus of 3+ due to the Lightning Claws, but also included Power Fists for Artificer Sergeants or clean up smaller 2+ units. Conclusion I havn't had much of a chance to play HH 2.0, so does anything leap out at those with more experience? My questions are: 1. Is there enough pinning? If not, what would you substitute? 2. Between picking my fights with Jump Packs and mass amounts of breaching/rending will this be enough to deal with Legion Specific Terminators (WS5 2+)? 3. Should my Praetor have a Thunder Hammer? This seems to be the optimal build, but is really expensive and the Lightning Claws seem in-line with the Raptor aesthetic. 4. Are the Land Speeders with Grav. Guns a dumb idea? 5. Does the Chaplain upgrade on the Praetor seem worth it (Noting his retinue and him are only 8/6 models), or should the 35 points be used elsewhere? 6. Is there too many moving pieces, should I instead invest more heavily in a smaller number of units? Thanks in advance for any feedback.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b533/Flint1324/Slide1_zpsbb46d7d7.jpg *Children of the Darkest Night! Your father calls you forth, that the universe may know your name and weep to hear it. Midnight falls throughout the segmentum, as the sons of the Night Haunter begin to gather. Step forth and roar your oaths so that the galaxy may know who stands against them, invincible in midnight clad. False prophets of the Corpse-God, we are your nightmares made manifest and we have come for you!* http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b533/Flint1324/NIGHTLORDS_1024_zps46cd0d9f.jpg (To all the Nightlords of Bolter and Chainsword, both full and part-time, join us in our project to document the full might of our legion. One of the things that we have heard repeated among Nightlords hobbists are the difficulties of the initial search for a company number that hasn't been "taken." To help new and returning midnight clad faithful alike, we ask you proclaim the name, deeds and number of your company to be recorded here in what will be an ongoing roster, organized by your company number. We've even gone first to start to provide a good template. We'll be updating this roster in the first post with new members as long as the mods will allow, so that we may record all Nightlords faithful, both casual and hardcore for future projects and other fun stuff in our little community.) ---I am Flint13, and I stand in midnight clad. I command the 28th of our father's companies, Saeva Nocte: the Savage Night! Jackals need no queens. Only an Alpha murderess. I am she. --I am Brother Heinrich, and I stand in Midnight Clad. I command the 15th Company of the mighty VIII Legion. I am the armored fist of our father's vengeance, Ave Dominus Nox! For all of our Honored Brothers, claim your badge of allegiance to proudly display your heritage and let all know your true standing as fear itself! For our Terran Brothers http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/mv8830/Night%20Lords%20II/Terran_zps971683eb.png or For our Nostraman Brothers http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q532/mv8830/Night%20Lords%20II/Nostraman_zpsf4be09e4.png **Want to bedeck your 8th Legionaries in this season's hottest Nostraman fashions? Try Augustus B'Raass' amazing flayed skin tutorial! ** **Want to let those other, lesser legions know how you really feel about them? Try learning our homebrew Nostraman runic alphabet, so you can insult and threaten your enemies in style! ** **Want to paint your Legion to their midnight clad best? Try Elstonation's tutorial for painting VIIIth Legion Astartes and the Night Haunter. Part 1, Part 2, and the Part 3 finale.** **Looking to paint your murderers just like the production studio? Try FW's official VIIIth Legion color scheme** The Red Record of The Eighth **Though we hunt through the valley of the shadow of death, we shall fear no darkness, for we are why the dark is feared.** 1st Company - "Atramentar," Commanded by (debatably) Jago "Sevatar" Sevatarion - A D-B 2nd + 16th Company - "Screams of Despair," Commanded by Pythas Wolfbane - Wicced W.I.P. 3rd Company - Commanded by Halasker - A D-B 3rd Company - "Scourges of Quintus," - Brother Nihm 3rd Company - "The Beasts of Old Night," Commanded by Etrigan Martikhor - Carnivore 4th Company - "The Ruthless Lords (Immitius Dominus)," Commanded by Sabinus Tarkus - Terimus 4th Cohort - Commanded by Oleksandr Diabolun "Tyrant of Carpathia" - NeopoleonOz 5th Company - "Slaughterhost," Commanded by Bibaculus Vatia - Imperialis_Dominatus 5th Company - Commanded by the Shadow Master - Dark Bjoern 6th Company - Commanded by Nigh Seer Kilvain - Night Talon 7th Company - "The Head Takers," Commanded by Silren Voss - Fracture 8th Company - "The Dark Vanguard," Commanded By Azanael - DarkVen 8th Company - "The Circle of Inclemency," Commanded by Sah Vassago - Rain 8th Company - "The Marked," Commanded By Var'koth - Luther- the fallen 8th Chapter - "Lords of Terror," Commanded by Damon Chyld - Hellchyld 8th Company - "The Muderous Brotherhood," Commanded by Lord Captain Arius Draken - Celtic_Cauldron 8th Company - Undesignated - Massacre Page 102 9th Company - Commanded by Malithos - A D-B 9th Company "Crimson Sons" - Massacre Page 107 (Mysterious!!) Company - "The Crimson Sons," Commanded by Gresh - Brother-Chaplain Kage (and kinda 1000Heathens) 10th Company - Commanded by Decimus the Tenth - A D-B 10th Company - Crimson Sons - Nocturn's Stalker 10th company - Malcharion "The War-Sage" - Malcharion 11th Company - Commanded by Artebius - Doghouse 12th Comany - "The Hounds of Tsagualsa,"- Brother Akkyshan 13th Company - Commanded by Naraka the Bloodless - A D-B RedMoon 14th Company - "The Forsaken," Commanded by Barbastellan Lasiurus - Balthamal 15th Company - Commanded by Hashec Tor - Brother Heinrich 16th Company - "The Final Breath," Commanded by Tor Val - Noctus Cornix 17th Company - Commanded by Molossus - PhantomZero17 17th Company - "Lords of Tempest" - Massacre Pages 96 and 109 18th Company - "The Immortal Terrors," - Dan the Daemon 18th Company - Commanded by Nero Maytheron "Harbinger of Fear" - NeopoleonOz 19th Company - "Et Excoriator Dominantium" - Loken86 19th Chapter - Regent Balthasar Sul - Massacre Page 111 20th Company - "Joy in Darkness," Commanded by Kyll Eston - Spaz431 21st Company - "Wraithborn," Commanded by Ashiroth Narakyr - Xin Ceithan 22nd Company - Commanded by Zar Orpheus - TheReaper17 22nd Company - Commanded by Vibius - Cowboy3569 22nd Company "Night Scythes" - Massacre Page 106 23rd Company - Commanded by Tesra Varek - Koriel 24th Company - "The Baleful Dusk," Commanded by Decian Rhakul - Ave_Dominus_Nox 25th Company - Commanded by Tol Calos - Demon2027 26th Company - "Noctis Infernae," Commanded by Aliksandr Saevus - Barabbas Sogalon 27th Company - Commanded by Var Jahan - A D-B 27th Company - "The Shattered Skull" - Massacre Page 99 27th Company - Var Jahan, Kyroptera member – Malcharion 28th Company - "Saeva Nocte," Commanded by Jhadek Redcrow - Flint13 W.I.P. 29th Company - "Warband of Al Ahn," Commanded by Al Ahn - nhaunter 33rd Company - "The Mongrels," Commanded by Justinian Vorbis - MrBear 35th Company - "The Claws of Sedition," Commanded by Veer Zhoste - Plague of Sedition 37th Company - "The Shadow Sworn," Commanded by Zar-Helek - Armond 39th Company - Commanded by Ophion - A D-B 40th Company - Commanded by Kar Zoruul - A D-B 41st Company - "The Winged Skull," Commanded by Haelim Lev - Lord Haelim Lev 42nd Company - Commanded by Vezis Shan - Deadman Wade 43rd Company - Commanded by Cel Herec - A D-B 43th Company - "The Void Lords," Commanded by Alpplordrin Gruharius - Hellios 44th Company - Commanded by Kysrae of the Othriii - Tenebor 47th Company - "The Night's Reapers," Commanded by Contemptor-Captain Tol Zhaeqal - Augustus b'Raass WIP + Showcase 48th Company - Dread Ascension - Commanded by Kryvan the Descendant - Ghorgul 51st Company - "Architects of Atrocity," Commanded by Voruun Fux – Dardl 52nd Company - "The Terrorborn," Commanded by Valaghurst Nyxanos - YFNPsycho 55th Company - "Warband of Al Ahn," Commanded by Csaba "Necromancer" Cszimandia - nhaunter 56th Company - The Blooded Hands - Commanded by Belthzar - Psykic_scribe - Belthzar's Nightlords Host 57th Company - Commanded by Xamuel Tral - Brother Khairon 64th Company - Sergeant Garathor, acting commander - Kaptain Von 66th Company - "The Terror Storm," Commanded by Otto Vaamon - Bruegel 71st Company - "The Crimson Judges" - Massacre Page 99 74th Company - "Nocte Varacolaci," Commanded by Corum Varagosi - Gordon Shumway 75th Company - "Invidos Umbram," Commanded by Xhant Mohn 77th Company - "Harbingers of Nocnitsa," - Brother Kirus, - Massacre Page 104 82nd Company - "The Midnight Sirens," Commanded by Talos Vandri - CaptainAsmodai W.I.P 83rd Company - "The Blood Bound," Commanded by Seifer Moldoro - Jaspcat 88th Company "The Erinyes Brotherhood " Seynivarian N'kaal "The scaly-one" – Malcharion 88th Company – no details – Pipistrello 91st Company - "Tenebrous Winter," - AlanofAngels WIP 96th Company - "The Fallen Knights," Commanded by Carmine Marcellus - Capitano 100th Company - "The Bloody Centuria," Commanded by Marek Vanya - TheWarmaster 101st Cohort - "Nocte Canibus," Commanded by Lucifex Aeterna - Aeternas WiP 102nd Company - "The Bloods of Heresy," Commanded by Belix Rathart - Balthius 103rd Company - Commanded by Krukesh the Pale - A D-B 104th Company - "The Sable Brothers" - Massacre Page 99 105th Company - "The Blood Born," Commanded by Kalsha the Burdened - Balthius 106th Company - "The Broken Silence," Commanded by Sepp Demir "The Ruthless" - Corsovitt 111th Company - "Tears of Night," Commanded by Syndahl Vas - Rune_Priest_Rhapsody 112th Company - "The Blades of Night," - JasoX 113th Company - "Shadow Talons," Commanded by Davian Octiz - Forte 114th Company - Commanded by Tovac Tor - A D-B 117th Company - "The Faithless Arbiters," Commanded by Kal'o Necridincos - plasmaspam 123rd Company - Commanded by Vikan Prixus - Helterskelter 184th Company - "Angelus Interfectum," Commanded by Lowmar - 200plus 781th Company - "The Partakers," Commanded by Sar Horr-al and Xas Horr-ast - Haakon Norsal Unknown Designation - "Caradara Armoured Claw" - Massacre Page 100 Unknown Designation - "The Bonekeepers," - RoguePanda Unknown Designation - Terror Squad Commanded by Balthazar Kald - Excessus Unknown Designation - "The Blessed," Commanded by The Revered One - RapatoR Unknown Designation - "The Tempest Hounds," Commanded by Ambroz Saytsev - Tanith Ghost Unknown Designation - "The Nightmare Princes," Commanded by Anko Harrada - UndeadTaxman Unknown Designation - "Warband of Evicerated Truth" Commanded by Zagar Kal Druga The Untainted - Noctem Cultor W.I.P Unknown Designation - Remembrancer Corvus Alis, "The Scroll Keeper," Formerly of the Adeptus Administratum - Pirokoksik Unknown designation - Venek'tor Nox - Trysanna