Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Okay, I got back home today and so here's two models I've continued to work on - my Ultramarine Deathwatch/Sternguard Marine, and my Captain, Anteas. First up, the Deathwatch guy: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-1.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-2.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-3.jpg I've kept Chronus's pistol arm, because I was really a huge fan of the wrist-plates in his armour. Though the conversion was a little more difficult because I wanted to keep most of the model undamaged, I've at least now got him into a pretty decent state. He needs some green-stuffing on his bolter arm, but I'm going to move on to the other models in his squad. On to Anteas: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Anteas-WIP-19.jpg His sword-arm's skittered away into the undergrowth in my room, so I'm looking for it, but in the meantime I've started to assemble his backpack. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Anteas-WIP-18.jpg I really liked the stylised eagle-head on Lysander's hammer, so I'm using it as I think it's a distinctive and unusual effect. I've got another Lysander (somewhere) so I'll dig that out so he can have matching vents. More news soon, I hope! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barret Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 They're looking good! That back-banner is a good choice for Anteas; it adds to the dynamism of the pose. The Deathwatch guy is also coming along well. The helmet is perfect for that armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 I like that banner because it's about the only sculpted one that's blowing off to the right. I'm considering trying to manipulate it a little more with pliers so it matches the motion of his tabard. I'll give that some thought. Thanks for the comment! :) EDIT: I've started working on the next member of my Deathwatch Sternguard, a Blood Angel. I've got one of the metal Death Company models. I've started fiddling around with it, and I'll be changing the bolt pistol for a bolter. The arm isn't glued, which is why it's at the funny angle: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-4.jpg And here he is with the Ultramarine. The comment previously about the Ultramarine just pointing and telling others what to do amused me. I'm going to be using the (body of the) Games Day model with the hammer as one of the kill-team members, though I haven't decided which Chapter he'll be from. I'm still working on narrowing down the Chapters that'll be in the squad. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 lookin good mol, when can we expect another update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagsta Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 the MKIII deathwatch sergeant is a superb conversion good job =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks! I've got a few more shots of Anteas and some of the Deathwatch I've been working on - Here's Anteas, with weapon arms and (placeholder) shoulderpads. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Anteas-WIP-20.jpg Onto the Deathwatch, at the moment I have five in stages of assembly - Ultramarine, Blood Angel, Lamenter, Black Templar and Sword Bearer. I have plans for others, including a Mortifactor, but those'll come in time. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-6.jpg Here's my Lamenter - I've used the Commander shoulderpad with the circle, so it'll be relatively easy to do the Chapter badge. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-7.jpg Here's the Templar, pretty stock, but flying the flag for the Chapter with Templar symbols on his chest AND tabard. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-8.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-9.jpg This is the Sword Bearer. It's difficult to photograph him because of his pose - it's easier to grasp it in real life. The games day model, with a bolter arm from the Master of Recruits. At least, I think he's a sword bearer - if Midian doesn't like the model, I'll put a different shoulderpad on him. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 the last model has a nice sense of movement to it, but whats gonna go in the other arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Diablo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-8.jpghttp://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-9.jpg This is the Sword Bearer. It's difficult to photograph him because of his pose - it's easier to grasp it in real life. The games day model, with a bolter arm from the Master of Recruits. At least, I think he's a sword bearer - if Midian doesn't like the model, I'll put a different shoulderpad on him. :) Very nice, the arm goes really well with that body. The movement you've got with Anteas is spot on. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 the last model has a nice sense of movement to it, but whats gonna go in the other arm? I'm thinking something like this: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-10.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Diablo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 the last model has a nice sense of movement to it, but whats gonna go in the other arm? I'm thinking something like this: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-10.jpg Nice. One thing i'd do is rotate the hand a little so the palm is facing further up, it should have a lot more movement that way, especially if the head is looking in the direction he's going to throw the grenade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Ideally I would've just liked to have a clenched fist, to show him sprinting flat-out at the enemy. If I do that, I might just shave off the top of the grenade. But yes, I'll probably fiddle around with it and put it into more of a throwing position. In truth, I've never really liked that grenade arm - I've never really been able to put it in a dynamic enough position. I had idly fiddled around and come up with this: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-11.jpg But it's not really optimal in a sternguard squad - I'd want to give the Sergeant a fist instead. Still, it looked neat so I thought I'd put it up. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 you can always get the pointer fist from the assault marine box, reposition the hand- saw the finger off and greenstuff a clenched one. ^_^ *goes back to working on scratch built "kantor" model* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Something like this? http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-12.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-13.jpg I dunno, it'd need the fist rotating, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 reposition the hand- saw the finger off and greenstuff a clenched one. msn-wink.gif i mentioned it would need repositioning, but i think it has potential if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I don't have much time to talk, but your making some solid progress Mol. I hope to speak with you soon, among the many things I'd like, but of course school is talented at destroying your life. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyp100 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 This is really good thread. I love the conversions, but I wanna see more painting, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Its good to see the Deathwatch squad coming together. Any chance of a group shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Diablo Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hmm, not sure about the sword or fist, they don't seem to have the same movement as the grenade arm. If you'd rather not give him a ccw, i'd be tempted to use a straight right arm swinging backwards. The only place I can think of that has a straight right arm is the commander sprue, then add a chainsword hand with the sword cut away for the clenched fist, that'd have tons of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 I know the arm you mean - I'll mock it up and take a picture before I leave for uni again. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 swah! what an amazing thread.. my only comment is in the last pic you posted the fist looks wrong IMO, the other two option are better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewolf74727 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 well these look great looking forward to seeing the whole army painted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Are you decided about normal hand vs powerfist? For what its worth I vote powerfist. Or is this model not the sergeant? It sure looks like a sergeant. Perhaps I'm muddying the waters a little, but have you considered the right arm of the previous Sicarius model? It'd be a bit of cutting and GS repair work. If you're decided that it needs to be a fist, the lightning claw is only a few short steps away from becoming one. Also, the old metal standard bearer (and the wolfguard version) gripped his banner pole with a right-handed clenched powerfist. I've used that bit before in a similar position. It's a little small, but has old-school charm. For clenched-non-powerfist right hands you might look at: The standard bearer arm from the command squad box The poweraxe arm from the assault squad box The grenade hand has been mentioned - could work with a different arm from wrist up The old (rubbish) vindicator commander had a flat right hand that *might* work, with an equal chance of sucking The plastic AoBR captain's sword hand could be interesting if you bored out the swordhilt (shame I know, but unique) Having said all of that, if you're up to it you could greenstuff a fist. You could even coil some 1mm wire 4 times around an appropriate prop (toothpick?) to make an armature for greenstuffing over. You'd want softish wire for that or else it'll drive you mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thanks for the response, Alex, but I'm more inclined to accept Midian's ideas. After giving it some thought, I don't want to give this guy a power fist - if I do have a fist in this Sternguard squad, I'll give it to an Imperial Fist, I think. I've gone with a straightened right arm as Midian suggested and it really does convey the impression of speed. (Of course, my subtly shaky camerawork accentuates that further...) http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-14.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Deathwatch-15.jpg And I ended up being given a box of Sternguard for free! http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Castigator%20Army/Sternguard.jpg Not sure entirely what I'll be doing with these, though they'll be folded into the Castigator Sternguard and the Deathwatch Counts-As-Sternguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Diablo Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Much better. When you get the head on make sure it's parallel to the base, you'll get a good charging look to it. Free Sternguard? Bonus. I'd be inclined to do them all as Castigators, leave the Deathwatch to the plastics, you'll have more room to personalise them to specific chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 the pointing beaky marine would be a good raven guard deathwatch marine, just a thought. and how, pray tell, did you acquire a sternguard box for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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