The Emperor's Champion Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 More fuel for this info storm: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/Ieyke/ImperiumUltramar.jpg http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/Ieyke/Ultramar-1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1767662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pariah Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Good. I found other maps of Ultramar. They don't even remotely agree with eachother. I'll scan 'em soon. Right now I'm psyched-up about mapping Macragge itself. I've got my little globes set up. I'll put together a little presentation sharpish. It looks like the globes cover about 2/3 to 3/4 of Macragge's surface, leaving a decent amount of space open to our imaginations. When things are ready, I'll start a new Project (not a Research Project this time) thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1767751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The back of the old Tyranids codex has a map of Ultramar as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1767786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pariah Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 New scanner and lack of experience with scanners in general. Will work on it. Got another name for that setting? It could be called "sharpen." I can't remember if it's supposed to be on or off, but trying fiddling with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1767843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I've got Scan Resolution and that's pretty much it.... I guess I'll mess with that and see what happens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1768197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pariah Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 "An outpost of the norther polar fortress, Ice Station Hebra guards an entrance to a network of underground tuinnels connecting defense laser silos and power generators." (US WD 231, p. 99) A canyon, which is the only reasonably safe passage through the mountains, and rocky cliffs, lie to the southeast of Ice Station Hebra. (US WD 231, p. 102-103) Ice Station Hebra sits next to a river. (US WD 231, p. 106) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1781757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pariah Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Konor's Reach is one of the largest agri-complexes on Espandor. (US WD 305, p. 87) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1861794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I have images to upload of the fortress, the primarch's shrine, and I think some other pretty stuff like mountains. I can't today, but you'll see it tomorrow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1862096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 STICKY THIS TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!! Anyhow, I was mulling over the combined Holy Roman and Byzantine nature of the Imperial Fists over in different thread and I was making a half sarcastic comment about how if the IF's are Praetorians as a theme, then the Ultramarines must be considered frontier guardsmen as a theme. (sort of) long story short, I don't think we've ever considered that Ultramar (in addition to being the Imperium's Thermopylae) is the Imperium's Hadrian's Wall. The Ultramarines are waaaaay out on the frontier of the empire inhabiting a fairly good sized defensive chain of systems. Just thought I'd throw that out there for consideration. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1931897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowstalker Grim Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Actually thats quite a nice observation :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1932757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Sweet Thread. Very Educating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1932898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 We do tend to love our informative threads. Brother Pariah especially has a knack for creating them too.<_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1932911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) I didn't know half this and I read everything on my armies. For such an important place on the Eastern Fringe, I dont feel like its given enough credit. Edited March 28, 2009 by Marshal2 Crusaders Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1932915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Agreed. @Brother Pariah and Seahawk: I think we can safely unsticky the "traits" topic now and replace it with this wonderful monstrosity. If you don't I'm just gonna keep bumping it. <_< Page 6 of "Warriors Of Ultramar" http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a367/Ieyke/DefOfUltramarpg6Macragge.jpg That's Learchus BTW Edited March 28, 2009 by The Emperor's Champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1932919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) So much character in that simple page from a comic. That sword hall screams out to me that the sword belongs to Guilliman, but I could be wrong. Edited March 28, 2009 by Captain Idaho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Dude, scan the rest of the awesomeness in that comic! I have it, but keep getting lazy and I don't want to go to computer labs. The shrine of the primarch would be a good pic to add in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) I don't have the comic. I got this my scouring the internet. Edited March 28, 2009 by The Emperor's Champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Its like a Roman Coruscant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Yup. I'm having a hard time deciding if it's like the capital city of Macragge or if it's the Fortress Of Hera or what. That one page is apparently drawn by a different artist than the rest of the comic and seems slightly out of place in the few pages of the comic I saw. The other handful of pages I saw I disagree with very much (landscape and architecture-wise). The depiction of Macragge as brown with some hills goes against it's usual Alpine-ish description, and the depiction of the Fortress is retarded. It's not a medieval castle with short walls and grey stone sitting in a valley. It's supposed to be a colossal structure of Greco-Roman architectural wonders sitting on the highest mountain tops. I'm pretty sure saying Macragge equates to Mount Olympus itself would be another good assessment. Olympus looks like (and I'm betting Macragge in general does too): http://www.photoseek.com/greece/01GRE-45-27-LitohoroOlympus.jpg Not: http://www.scenicreflections.com/ithumbs/Wild%20West.jpg Edited March 28, 2009 by The Emperor's Champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Are you attaching pictures of real world places to the descriptions? That would be cool and help non-visual's (like me) with imaging it. Also I agree that the Fortress of Hera would be the pinnacle of Architecture. Roman and Greek style merged into one impenetrable keep. Didn't the Romans often flatten off mountain tops to build their forts on? I think that would make an excellent visual. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) Well that was more to illustrate my point of how I disagree with the other few pages of that comic I saw, but gathering together architecture and terrain examples that fit descriptions is a pretty good idea too. Calth: I declare shenanigans on the very idea of: Calth's sun was being bombarded with radiation and chemical warheads that were boiling away its surface and threatening to send it supernova. That's utterly impossible. No radiation or chemical agent would be able to phase a star's life cycle in any significant way, not even a star's OWN radiation. Star's burn through their fuel via nuclear fusion. Chemical agents to impact a star would have to be in quantities rivaling the mass of a good sized planet, and it's likely that that would only ADD fuel to the star. What do they expect radiation to do exactly? Bombard the star with high powered radiation? It's the primary source of high powered radiation. That's like trying to blind the sun with a flashlight. From a scientific standpoint this has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard in 40k Edited March 29, 2009 by The Emperor's Champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Never thought of that before, but your right, it makes no sense to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 The perils of being really enthusiastic about your astronomy class :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1933857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pariah Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Calth: I declare shenanigans on the very idea of: Calth's sun was being bombarded with radiation and chemical warheads that were boiling away its surface and threatening to send it supernova. That's utterly impossible. No radiation or chemical agent would be able to phase a star's life cycle in any significant way, not even a star's OWN radiation. Star's burn through their fuel via nuclear fusion. Chemical agents to impact a star would have to be in quantities rivaling the mass of a good sized planet, and it's likely that that would only ADD fuel to the star. What do they expect radiation to do exactly? Bombard the star with high powered radiation? It's the primary source of high powered radiation. That's like trying to blind the sun with a flashlight. From a scientific standpoint this has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard in 40k Well, obviously that's just the cover story used to keep the innocent Imperial subjects from learning the terrible truth! By the way, some free time is about to open up for me (I just graduated... again) so hopefully I can update more of the research projects in the near future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1934951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Congrats Brother! What'd you graduate from this time around (and the time(s) before that), if you don't mind my asking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143429-realm-of-ultramar-astronomy-and-geography/page/4/#findComment-1934966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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