Lamenter Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 I love seeing bad@$$ conversions. You have definitely swung for the fences with these. The Vanguard marine is a favorite of mine, especially in the "true scale" department. How do you get your GS so smooth? Is it a scraping and shaping process after curing? Or is it acheived during the sculpting? I go for as smooth a finish as I can during sculpting. I've found using a very fine grade of wet&dry paper when it's cured helps a bit too. I'm now going to start experimenting with other putties to see if I can get a better finish as I still feel there's too many imperfections present. The most helpful thing with getting a smooth finish is a variety of clay shapers, especially soft tip ones. Definitely worth the investment if you want to do any of this kind of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 i have color shapers, but have been at a loss to implement them. I have a crap load of termies, so I will be giving a TS marine a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 i have color shapers, but have been at a loss to implement them. I have a crap load of termies, so I will be giving a TS marine a try. I'm in the process of making a tutorial for basic truescaling if that's any help. About 2 weeks I think before it'll be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcL63 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Colour shapers, yeah. I saw some of those during my 4-year hobby layoff. They looked so interesting that I almost bought some anyway. Thanks for that tip gents. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeDlols Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Excelent work! The pose of the vanguard marine is really nice and your level of detailing is highly impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Taking a while to finish these (mostly because I've been lazy) but here's a little progress. Most of the greenstuff work is now done. The shoulder pads are ready and waiting as are the backpacks. Just got to finish cleaning and posing the arms, attach the weapons and add those damn rivets :cries: http://masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkvsquadsmall.jpg Larger image here. http://masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/sergeantwip.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 A nice start. The Superman-style Spandex Pants vibe I am getting is not too positive, but I trust you know what your doing. Also; did the client see the light that is correctly portioned arms? I see arms, and they ain't skinny shrimpy ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 A nice start. The Superman-style Spandex Pants vibe I am getting is not too positive, but I trust you know what your doing. Also; did the client see the light that is correctly portioned arms? I see arms, and they ain't skinny shrimpy ones. Haha, no spandex, not yet anyway. When the detailing is added (cables/studs/etc) they should look more appropriate. And yes chunky arms are in this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Awesomeness! I've been a fan for a long time :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 If I pull my finger out I might get this squad finished tomorrow. Anyhow, update for you. Here's the first of the finished members of the Mark V Tactical Squad. As per the clients orders this model has magnetized swappable arms, so he can be equipped with bolter/bolt pistol and power sword/fist. Still need to drill out the bolter and perhaps add a back banner. Also for your viewing pleasure I have one of the near completion marines from the same squad. The dagger (not entirely WYSIWYG, but looks pretty cool) is from a Catachan command squad (I think). I've tried to pose him as if he's firing at close range, hence the slightly lowered bolter, with his combat blade ready to slash out at the approaching enemy. I also swapped out the magazine on the bolter for a belt feed, as these marines are meant to be heresy era. http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv2.jpg http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv1.jpghttp://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv3.jpg http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv4.jpghttp://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Stunning as always lamenter. May I ask if I can see some prices for your commissions. EDIT:I just saw your commissions group. No thanks, 36 a pop is a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Oooh, I love the dagger ^_^ ! But the position, it seems a little off..... just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtNACHO Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 i'm not diggin the Giant Space Marine huggies. I want Power Armor Pants! Not Marine Diapers! :lol: Although you should see about decreasing the size of those groins. I'm sure the Marine's can hold it till the Servitors arrive ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 i'm not diggin the Giant Space Marine huggies. I want Power Armor Pants! Not Marine Diapers! :lol: Although you should see about decreasing the size of those groins. I'm sure the Marine's can hold it till the Servitors arrive :D You do realise they're in Mark V armour right? They're supposed to be big. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I have to admit, thats one place I would really want protection. I dont care if you are on super steroids, and trained to endure extreme pain, thats a tender area :o . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Another member of the "Big Pants Brigade" :lol: Possibly my favourite so far. The rest of the squad should be finished tomorrow. http://masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/multimeltamkv.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 the thighs look too chunky imo the way the wires hang look great , and i think that the multimelta would look a bit more balanced if it had a stock or just a small extension - the true scaling makes it seem a bit small i have to say that always keeping the helmets on the belt is a nice touch, and the rivets are really accurate amd precise and this guy is just too cool: http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/mkv3.jpg he smokes of bloody execution, with the added touch of posing :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 ...and i think that the multimelta would look a bit more balanced if it had a stock or just a small extension - the true scaling makes it seem a bit small I hadn't thought of that. I may well add one. Something to bear in mind for future Devastators as well. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 I finally finished the second Mark V squad I've been working on, this time using terminator arms. I won't post all the individual pics here, but they are on my website (see sig.). Now that this squad is finished I'll be moving swiftly onto the next projects - Alpha Legion, Terminators and Deathwatch (plus a few regular scale projects, but I won't put those in this plog). http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/finishedsquad/mkvsquadsmall.jpg The full squad. Click for larger image. (note: the client has his own left shoulder pads, hence the absense of them in these photos) http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/finishedsquad/mkvsquadsmallcomp.jpg Someone asked for a size comparison photo, so here you go. Click for larger image. As suggested (cheers wiplash), I added a stock to the multi melta taken from a plasma gun. I really like the way it looks, and I think I'll be using this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 ooh I like them alot especially Mr. Powerfist so much carnage potential :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 quick question... where do you get your non GS rivets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Haha, no spandex, not yet anyway. Diapers? =-D I kid. These things are FANTASTIC! The detailing is just fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 quick question... where do you get your non GS rivets Grandt Line Rivets. I get them here: http://www.barrule.com/Workshop/scratch%20...gmentables.html and here: http://www.sbmodels.net/Grandt_Line.html I think they're imported from the US, so they're probably easier to find Stateside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tuditanus Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 They're skillfully done, so don't take this wrong, but your proportions are off in your torso and groin, and the thighs to a lesser extent. The abdomen, especially illustrated in your powerfist marine, is too long, And I don't think the general sink inwards then filling out to be almost even w/ chest straps help that. In fact, it might be the majority source for the length issues. I'm sorry, but MK V or MK whatever, that groin, to me, is simply too large. When it over powers the shin and chest armor almost in terms of size, that's a bit more than my mind can feasibly believe. It's the one big thing that keeps me from truly giving these guys the un-faulting phase some of our fellows have. the thights mainly, as others have said, just look chunky... Overall each individual part is done well, but when they're together, they clash and don't synch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamenter Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 They're skillfully done, so don't take this wrong, but your proportions are off in your torso and groin, and the thighs to a lesser extent. The abdomen, especially illustrated in your powerfist marine, is too long, And I don't think the general sink inwards then filling out to be almost even w/ chest straps help that. In fact, it might be the majority source for the length issues. I'm sorry, but MK V or MK whatever, that groin, to me, is simply too large. When it over powers the shin and chest armor almost in terms of size, that's a bit more than my mind can feasibly believe. It's the one big thing that keeps me from truly giving these guys the un-faulting phase some of our fellows have. the thights mainly, as others have said, just look chunky... Overall each individual part is done well, but when they're together, they clash and don't synch. Thanks for the feedback. I agree with some of what you say. You're right the proportions are off, but these aren't intended as Truescale conversions. I'm not skilled enough to even think about attempting real truescaling. And to be honest I don't like truescale miniatures. These are actual scale, which is more a case of scaling up GWs already distorted (heroic scale) proportions, which I do like by the way. I have no issue with the groin, but I had to do this comparison against pics of GWs Mark Vs to prove it to myself though. http://www.masteroftheforge.com/images/july09/comparison.jpg As for your other points, thanks. Though I don't understand what you mean by clash/don't sync. Can you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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