smallvictory Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 That is a mighty mighty beard man! Space Wolves everywhere are donning their helmets in shame to hide their unworthy stubble. I say keep the chest fist by the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 Thank you sir! :cuss I shall be keeping the fist, but I'm going to have to alter it so its not hanging off or looking so big. Thank you! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 Well guys...I hate to be the lame-o who doesn't get anything done, so I tried to start and hopefully finish another vanguard squad tonight...but I just couldn't do it. After a half hour of de-flashing 10 legs, 20 pieces of torso, and 20 pieces of backpack...I just couldn't get the urge to do anything. But I managed to put one together, half...and two HORRIBLY static guys... I realized that the extra 2 running legs are on the dead dude, and one of the Death Company... :tu: So they're as static as can be..and rushed... http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1460.jpg  Hopefully I'll work up the courage to finish them tomorrow (I have to start studying for finals) and maybe even work on the Exterminus... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Looks promising :P . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 'shakes head' There is only one thing you can do to save them now. Â The far left guy needs to be looking over his chainsword arm's shoulder, and perhaps paint a terror marking on his helmet, although I doubt that fits the theme of any son of Dorn. Â Have the one on the far right be looking at whatever he is aiming at with the pistol. You might want to lower his chainsword as well. Â I'm geussing the one in the middle is the dead marine. Have his head snapped back... and if you use GW spray paint, lay the side of his head in the drying paint, but nothing else. Spraypaint it seperately, because when the spray paint has dried, there will be a huge crater in the side of his head. I learned this from experience ;) Â As always, I do quite enjoy your models :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 To me, he looks more like he just landed on a slightly unbalanced rock. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 'shakes head' There is only one thing you can do to save them now. The far left guy needs to be looking over his chainsword arm's shoulder, and perhaps paint a terror marking on his helmet, although I doubt that fits the theme of any son of Dorn.  Have the one on the far right be looking at whatever he is aiming at with the pistol. You might want to lower his chainsword as well.  I'm geussing the one in the middle is the dead marine. Have his head snapped back... and if you use GW spray paint, lay the side of his head in the drying paint, but nothing else. Spraypaint it seperately, because when the spray paint has dried, there will be a huge crater in the side of his head. I learned this from experience ;)  As always, I do quite enjoy your models :)  Well, I'll definitely be doing what you recommend for the left and right.  But the one in the center, hes supposed to look as if he is jumping back while shooting. I guess it doesn't work without a head though... I'll work on that later. :)  To me, he looks more like he just landed on a slightly unbalanced rock. Basically, kinda like hes strafing..backwards... hahaha  Thanks Mick! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I used really static legs for like half of my assault squad, but with a bit of cutting and pasting, you can easily make them a bit more epic-looking, like raising a leg to look like he's jumping up or resting it on a severed head or something. It's a bit hard to explain, but you can see the Assault Marines in my Sons of Malice thread, hopefully they can inspire you a bit  It's just that the guy on the rock looks really good, those two other guys should get the same treatment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenLion Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 great models as always - i agree with statements above they are salvageable :P good look in you finals Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2580980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 GooseDaMoose, I shall do that. I rushed through these, and they deserve time to go back to them.  Thanks FallenLion <_<  I'm really good with the ADD (I don't really have it, I just multitask..a lot) and so I've been flipping through Index Astartes I-IV and also Insignum Astartes. And have decided to make my veterans actually have some veteran markings. I like what I've done with them, but I'm not sure if its enough or too much. I'd like to add some crusade checkers, like if they worked in concert with Black Templars or Ultramarines or something like that. I really like the fist on the sergeant's helmet, even though its white...  Squad I, Sergeant. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1464.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1465.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1466.jpg  Squad I, veteran. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1467.jpg  Squad II, Sergeant. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1468.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1469.jpg[/color] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2582541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I tried making a stormbolter with the doubled up pistols, stealing your idea... it didn't look nearly as good and I scrapped my first go at it :( Â I really like those models though, with the minor complaint of the veteran needing to look a little lighter, although I'm willing to bet that is purely poor lighting when you took a picture of it. I really like your freehands, too, they aren't over the top but they do attract attention and contrast well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2582653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 I tried making a stormbolter with the doubled up pistols, stealing your idea... it didn't look nearly as good and I scrapped my first go at it :( Â I really like those models though, with the minor complaint of the veteran needing to look a little lighter, although I'm willing to bet that is purely poor lighting when you took a picture of it. I really like your freehands, too, they aren't over the top but they do attract attention and contrast well. Â Thanks :devil: For the stormbolter, I had to shave down a bit on both the 'inside' pieces before I glued. Try that. Â The veteran needs to be lighter you say? Like the blue highlights? He is the same shade as the other two marines (I don't really mix paints) maybe it was the lighting, but it was the same with all 3 models :( Thanks again :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2582674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Great painted models well done ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2582794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 Thanks Mick. :P  So this update is thanks to Sachiel for his always genius ideas. He recommended that I add the side banners to make them pop out a bit, so its not just a singular flat surface. So after trading a couple of PMs yesterday and today to clear some things, I worked them out. I like how they came out, the left one not so much, but the right one definitely. Prewarpage: http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1471.jpg  Postwarpage: http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1472.jpg  And a little bit of hang-y: http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1473.jpg  I'll spray them up, then glue them on, then paint them. I'm also thinking of doing something similar to the banner piece on the top too, I'll figure something out. :P Thanks Sachiel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2583530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I may have to steal that idea as well :P Shaving this insides of the pistols... Hmmm... I suppose it's better than using some excess greenstuff to fill it in. I'll try that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2583564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Looks great, well done :lol: . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2583743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 I may have to steal that idea as well :P Shaving this insides of the pistols... Hmmm... I suppose it's better than using some excess greenstuff to fill it in. I'll try that... Â Glad to be of service :D anything else you may need help with? :) Â Thanks Mick :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2584379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Just keep coming up with ideas to steal :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2584387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well Dark Apostle, I'm full of them. Maybe you'll like some of them. ;)  Well, here are the promised WIPs. I added some depth to the top banner as well. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1480.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1483.jpg It will be cleaned up, don't worry. I'm waiting for it to dry.  And the newest project... My linebreaker squadron. Originally Dark Angels, I figured they could be redone in Black Fist colors for merit. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1478.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1479.jpg  Keeping the tank name banners to replace them on the newly painted tanks. :) http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1481.jpg  To now: http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1482.jpg They were supposed to get a spray today, but the girlfriend picked me up from school, so was over for 7 hours of my day..so tomorrow. (Class was canceled, so I don't have to go until 2, which is just to take a test, and then come home :D )  I realize that I now only have 2 of those circle icons left, and 4 of the lone fists...so...Milliput, here I come. Also, I have received friendship from Mikhail of BolterandChainsword, who is shipping me a few fist icons and bitz as well. :D Also meeting the Milliput. Also...I have scored several bitz orders from eBay. In the form of awesomness. :D so Sternguard assembly shall resume soon...hopefully after the Vanguard that haven't made any headway lately... :woot:[/color]  Well, I'm sure you remember these two static guys. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1460.jpg  Instead of cutting them up and repositioning them. I took the lazy rode, and just gave them different arms... :P http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1484.jpg  But...if you don't put them next to each other, they don't look so pathetic. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1486.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1487.jpg  Yep, thats right. I churned out 10 marines in about 2 hours. (Sans heads and shoulderpads) I think that these fellows turned out okay. Not super actiony, but not stating either. [/color] Head down, shoulder barging througha door or enemy squad, i always imagined marines as being almost like tanks on legs so they'd be able to crush enemies out of their way with their own bulk and the bulk of the power armour. Sachiel, the guy in the first group pic, second from the right. Hes the one with the pose. I tried to do it as best I could with something bigger than a normal arm.  And, if you look in the picture of the two dudes with the whips, you may see a thin strand of greenstuff. Thats for redoing sergeant big-o. http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/IMG_2931.jpg  And of course...once again..I am out of 30mm bases...drat...[/color] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2584757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Really? I have an excess of 30mm bases... Â I think the whips are much better now, even if you didn't follow my advice on the two assault marines... Perhaps something slightly longer for the double whips? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2585164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thanks Dark Apostle. I went and bought another 12...then found some more in my room. :) I require a few more anyways. I took the easy way out with the Vanguard. Sorry. ^_^ I need to redo the double whips sometime soon.  Well, I played my first game last night. At something my LGS calls the "Young Generals Friday." To say the least, I felt very out of place. All the kids there (minus the 'teacher' that I played) was about 9ish...And they were all almost my height.... Since there were 5 of us kids, I played the teacher in a 1 on 1, and we chose 750 points. It was fun... The only thing is, I don't have a playable army, since I'm making a 1st company, of veterans, I don't technically have any Troop choices...so I had to pull out a heavy weapons guy from each squad, and replace them with something that looked like it was holding a bolter (I had to use the "Plasma is Totally Worth it Marine" and a librarian. :)) So I ran: 750 points Space Marine Captain- Thunderhammer and Storm Shield  Dreadnought- TL Lascannon and Close Combat Weapon  10 Man Tactical Squad Heavy Bolter, Powerfist  10 Man Tactical Squad Multi-melta, meltagun  5 Man Tactical Squad.  And he had 4 squads of Imperial Guardsmen, 2 lascannons, 6 flamethrowers, 3 meltaguns, and 3 plasmaguns. We played killpoints. He killed my 5 man squad, and the Multimelta squad. And I killed all of his guardsmen. The Dreadnought didn't do much, and my Captain almost failed all of his attacks. He finished with 1 wound left, but we never did anything, though I'm sure its basically just another save. He walked me through the dice rolls, and moves and stuff. And then after the game, since he never shot at my Dreadnought, he explained to me armor saves.  So I need to finish those scouts...so I can have enough troop choices, or just make 6 or more extra Tactical marines, to shuffle into my squads for normal games. I don't know what to do. Maybe if I don't end up using all my squads in a game, I can just shuffle in those marines.  Here is the Vanguard squad. They're awaiting greenstuff shoulderpads like the Heavy Bolter squad has. And bitz. Tons of little bitz that I'm waiting for from eBay. http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1488.jpg http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1489.jpg Like these http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/IMG_2797.jpg  And the Vindicators were sprayed. And then I slaved over the black paint to go over them again...that was no fun... http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo234/shortsonfire80/IMG_1491.jpg  Monday starts Finals, and then Wednesday is the end of the semester, so hopefully I'll be able to model for a nice month before next semester starts. (Yep, thats right. I get a whole month and a half off without classes. :) ) Oh, and the Thunderbolt sold. But I say that I don't ship internationally, and the person who bought it is in Australia. So their shipping is $41...vs my listed $11. I'm still awaiting payment... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2587116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I find nothing flawed with your poses, so just :tu: Â Although does one guy have double pistols? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2587744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 I find nothing flawed with your poses, so just :tu:Â Although does one guy have double pistols? Â Thanks. :) And yes, he has a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol. Why, I don't know. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2587765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 I find nothing flawed with your poses, so just :tu:Â Although does one guy have double pistols? Â Thanks. :) And yes, he has a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol. Why, I don't know. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2587766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Your double pistols is perfectly legal... gamewise, I'd reccomend buying three Storm Shields for them, 45 points of 3++ never goes wrong, as I found out in a recent Apocalypse game, where they contested and held a very important objective due to four Storm Shields against Skarbrand and several Power Klaw wielding Orks. Â You can either plunder them from the Terminator set or even convert bases to represent Storm Shields (I used square Warhammer ones for my own). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/175865-black-fists-space-marines/page/11/#findComment-2587861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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