Tabgoi Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 My brother was just at the Vernon Hills, Illinois Gamesworkshop and the manager there said their direction from corperate was that any SM player can field them right now just by grabbing the rules from the new White Dwarf or from our codex. He was encouraging my brother to pick one up for his Dark Angels Successor Chapter (which is getting shelved the second the new Grey Knights codex comes out). My brother questioned him further since everything he or I had heard said just BA, and Grey Knights when their new codex comes out. Has anyone else run into this, or is this just one shop running its own program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 This is just your LGS trying to sell stuff. If you show up at a tournament with your Dark Angels with a Storm Raven it will be illegal as it is not in your codex. It is ok for friendly games as all you have to do is ask your opponent. In the WD It does not say anywhere in the Raven's entry that all Marine Codexes can take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 My brother was just at the Vernon Hills, Illinois Gamesworkshop and the manager there said their direction from corperate was that any SM player can field them right now just by grabbing the rules from the new White Dwarf or from our codex. He was encouraging my brother to pick one up for his Dark Angels Successor Chapter (which is getting shelved the second the new Grey Knights codex comes out). My brother questioned him further since everything he or I had heard said just BA, and Grey Knights when their new codex comes out. Has anyone else run into this, or is this just one shop running its own program? I've seen this rumor several times. As for now, there is nothing official to allow non-BA to use the Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 A friend of mine e-mailed the What's New Today team, apparantly they've been asked this a lot recently. The ruling is anyone can use it if they have the WD article, but it's only tournament legal in Blood Angels and Grey Knight armies. I will post the forwarded e-mail up if people wish me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 ;) Dammit. Would love to read the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Anyone can use anything if they ask nicely. But if you cant use it in tournaments it isnt official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMouth Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 the GW 800 number guys said it will be available for all chapters down the road, but right now just BA and grey knights...I think they are following the land raider formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Officially, the SR is BA/GK only. Unofficially, everyone and their mother seem to be using it. This past weekend, I encountered four or five Marine armies in LGS tournies using 'em, as all the LGS around here basically say "Everyone can have one for the price used in the WD article." Quickedit: By "Marine" armies, I mean DA, BT and two Codex Marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Games Workshop store employees don't know how to play, I thought everyone knew this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Games Workshop store employees don't know how to play, I thought everyone knew this by now. you know, i worked for the newcastle GW in 1995-97 and we had to know everything, and things arnet harder since then. OMG.....im officially old..... :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 If that's what they meant, they should have said so in WD. I wouldn't be too impressed by someone trying to take it in another marine army, to be honest. Just wondering which bits out of other codexes I should be adding to my army - A Necron Monolith, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAJake Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Damn............ From a buisness standpoint you would have to see their reasoning behind allowing all SM armies to have Storm Ravens... it is a $66 Fling transport. Every1 and their brother wants to get one if only it was available for their army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Just wondering which bits out of other codexes I should be adding to my army - A Necron Monolith, perhaps? ALand Raider CrusaderTo be fair even the fluff in the BA codex talks about its roll out to the Space marines as whole not just the BA and there is a picture in the C:SW of the Wolves getting out of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Games Workshop store employees don't know how to play, I thought everyone knew this by now. we had to know everything GW only employ salesmen now, being a gamer/ hobbyist isn't a requirement ^_^ I choose BA because they have unique equipment eg. Baal preds, and now sales come before fluff. Not really a surprise I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72challenger Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 So correct me if im wrong. Does this mean I can Load up my Khorne beserkers and Defiler in the back........ Or 6 terminators with combo meltas.... I dont know but beserkers charging out sound pretty good to me sinse they are my other army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman_woo Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 So correct me if im wrong. Does this mean I can Load up my Khorne beserkers and Defiler in the back........ Or 6 terminators with combo meltas.... I dont know but beserkers charging out sound pretty good to me sinse they are my other army. Zerkers.............maybe if you ask your oponent very nicely (and provided you actually put some propper spikey bits onto the raven!) Defiler...............Just no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72challenger Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 A couple khorne/chaos emblems maybe a blood letter in the cockpit. and def some skulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 There are 2 common myths concerning the SR.\ One it is available to everyone: no its not, a marine player can no more use the SR than a BA player could use 3++ storm shields for years. two: like the crusader the raven will be available to all: Incorrect the crusader was ALWAYS available to ALL codex marines as 0-1, BT's had this restriction removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Im curious if the Blood Strike missiles wills till be called that in the GK dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Admetus Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 @ Mort: more than likely, even though its born out of the desire to see everything in the BA dex prefixed by "blood" - its like the 60s Batman series that prefixed absolutely everything with the word "bat" - it seems stupid to change the name of functionally identical weaponry. What I'm more curious about is the "skies of blood" rule and whether or not this will be kept in its entirety or tweaked a little bit. The fact that it mentions the "descent of angels" special rule would need edited, and could be an argument against other armies using the WD entry, since it says "models with jump packs....can use the descent of angels special rule" and there are unfortunately players out there that would use that as an excuse to stick (for example) a Salamanders assault squad in a green stormraven and then scatter 1d6" on the way down. I reckon this will go the way of things like the redeemer - initially in one codex, and then made available in all Power Armour codices when they get re-done. Now, TO THE BATCAVE! *swirls cape and legs it in an incredibly camp fashion* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The main argument against other chapters using the WD entry is that nothing says they can ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 In my local GW they a remaking it a houserule that all SM can use. Storm Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alioshin Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I hope I am wrong but I think GW have first introduced the SR in the BA codex, will enhance it with the upcoming GK army list and then..... will make it viable for any SM chapter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 In my local GW they a remaking it a houserule that all SM can use. Storm Ravens. Of course they are. See what B-C Lucius had to say earlier: This is just your LGS trying to sell stuff. In friendly games feel free. When playing strangers you typically won't get to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcival Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 On Bell of Lost Souls there has been a rumor about a summer of fliers in 2011. I personally wouldn't mind if other SM Chapters used the Storm Raven, too, and yes, why not Chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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