Decoy Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 "Why not Chaos"? Because the Stormchicken is a post-heresy development, meaning that unless Chaos has the means to acquire the template or a vast number of Chickens, there's literally no fluff justification for the bird to show up in their armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Chaos can't use it as it wasn't around at the time of the heresy. The STC was only found recently If its true about all armies getting a flier, Chaos will get their own flier and it will probably be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcival Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 "Why not Chaos"? Because the Stormchicken is a post-heresy development, meaning that unless Chaos has the means to acquire the template or a vast number of Chickens, there's literally no fluff justification for the bird to show up in their armies. True, but they are so sad with their Codex that they deserve a little treat, too. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malus the Destroyer Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Every Chaos player I know complains about lack of flavor, but not competitive abilities of their codex. And playing them, they still hold their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Well hopefully Chaos will get teh Dreadclaw and at least teh Talon fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 My friends won't let me use an Ironclad instead of a Furioso, so no way will I be cool with them taking the Storm Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 So correct me if im wrong. Does this mean I can Load up my Khorne beserkers and Defiler in the back........ Or 6 terminators with combo meltas.... I dont know but beserkers charging out sound pretty good to me sinse they are my other army. The Stormraven is not in your Codex. There is no rule allowing the Stormraven to be taken by any other Codex excepting Blood Angels. If "GW corporate" has decided anyone can use it by taking the White Dwarf, ignoring the codex restriction — then sure, go for it. I know for sure that my buddy's Tyranids will finally benefit from having a transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 chaos cant even take speeders, they wouldnt have a clue what to do with a raven, lol. i can see them getting that thing they have in dow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I do find it hilarious that chaos allegedly cannot take anything Post Heresy or with Grav technology, yet they all wear Mk7 Power Armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I never understood the speeder thing. Especially with the latest C:CSM's propensity for showing the renegade chapters, surely theyre bringing their toys to the party? Only need one chapter with the stormraven to go bad and then the Evil mechanicum chaps can reverse engineer that gangster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Evil mechanicum I read that as "Evil shenanigans!" Too much late-night/early-morning booze. :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 "Evil shenanigans" is actually the corporate slogan the Dark Mechanicum print on their business cards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roesor Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 *Does the Templars have a Stormbird dance...a.k.a The Funky Chicken* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isryion Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Heh, it's on a page in the WD with a BA symbol and a BA header. It also doesn't give anything regarding what Force Org it fills in another codex. (Probably still a heavy, but who knows, maybe it will be a dedicated transport for GK!). It'd be hard to argue that it is for BA only with those things in mind. Now, nothing is wrong with friendly games and that might be fun to try out, but to argue that ruleswise, it's intended for anyone else (at this point) is a bit of a stretch. Obviously, some store owners are trying to add to their sales, but they should at least call it for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Till Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I would rather other codex's not get the SR But I can see it happening and I'll go with the flow. But no way would I play chaos with one. Thats like having a huge hodge-podge of units in every marine army be in every marine codex. Vanilla marines taking greater demons, blood angels taking lighting bull chargers, space wolves getting, baal preds, sisters of battle getting... whatever. goes on and on. I think if in the same game BOTH people where using random units from all over then whatever; its clearly not in a tourny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsolom Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I would rather other codex's not get the SR But I can see it happening and I'll go with the flow. But no way would I play chaos with one. Thats like having a huge hodge-podge of units in every marine army be in every marine codex. Vanilla marines taking greater demons, blood angels taking lighting bull chargers, space wolves getting, baal preds, sisters of battle getting... whatever. goes on and on. I think if in the same game BOTH people where using random units from all over then whatever; its clearly not in a tourny. I agree! Now I'm of to make a unit of ThunderBats airbourne cavalry ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 To be honest, it is a bit crappy of them to try and give kids the impression it is ok to field them in their army. Because it really isnt. If GW did want all Marines to have them it would have taken 2 lines in the WD article. And they clearly aren't going to be tournament legal or whatever. This is very half-assed. They should either just make a proper official ruling, or stick with the ruling they already have in place. Cos the WD article doesn't mention any other chapter having access to the SR yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Anyone can use whatever they want in a friendly game if it's agreed upon... a friend of mine fields his Khorne Berzerkers alongside his Blood Pact Traitor Guard because we think it's a cool idea. That doesn't mean it's legal, it's a houserule. Just like running a Stormraven alongside an Imperial Guard, Eldar or Space Marine army right now. House rules rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 does that mean that if it is for everyone , then the BT SR can move full and due to the different wording on PoTMS still fire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I thought that any Stormraven can move full and still fire a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmac Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 it looks like GK will feature in aprils WD so goin on that June WD at the earlyist for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 To be honest, it is a bit crappy of them to try and give kids the impression it is ok to field them in their army. Because it really isnt. Therein lies the rub. It would be really shady for official GW store managers to encourage kids to buy SRs and make them feel like it is ok to field them, if they aren't going to be available to them in the future. Obviously anyone can field anything in a firendly game; GW didn't need an Email to tell their managers this. This tells me that a Stormraven for every Marine force is already in GW's wheelhouse and we will see official SRs for everyone in the next couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcival Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 My friends won't let me use an Ironclad instead of a Furioso, so no way will I be cool with them taking the Storm Raven. Your "friends" are not exactly of the most tolerant kind, are they? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallingplate Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Quite simply, it aint in any other codex accept the Blood Angels one, therefore it cannot be used by any other non BA/successor chapter, period! The argument that other Space Marine Chapters can use the rules from the latest White Dwarf just does not hold water. They are in a series of Blood Angel specific articles, ergo for use with the BA/sucessor chapters. In effect the article is just a reprint of the entries in the BA codex. When I popped into my local GW store on Friday to have a look at their store one it was in UM blue! I challenged this with the store manager, who sheepishly just said its not fair only the BA can have them so I painted it blue! He knows it cannot legitimately be used for any other chapter that it was intended for. Obviously 'house rules' can allow any strange combination of troops and equipment, but they are just that 'house rules' and not official. 'House rules' have to be agreed by BOTH parties playing to be accepted. If it aint in the codex it aint legal. Call me a grumpy old git if you will, but if any non BA/successor chapter player that produces a Storm Raven in their army against me will run the risk of a strike from 'Andys righteous fists of blood' attack and have their shiny new SR reduced to a smoldering pile of molten plastic!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMouth Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 "Why not Chaos"? Because the Stormchicken is a post-heresy development, meaning that unless Chaos has the means to acquire the template or a vast number of Chickens, there's literally no fluff justification for the bird to show up in their armies. because still doesnt even have drop pods, let alone speeders...GW couldnt trust them with a stormraven. :P :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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