Captain Semper Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Arjac cost 188. He's an upgrade from an 18 point model, 18 + 170 = 188. Am I missing something?? The rules clearly state that if you want to include an "upgrade" Special Character without the squad you can but you can only claim the "upgrade" points. This is only if you want to enter Arjac on his own. If you are to pledge the entire squad upgraded with Arjac then normal rules/value points apply. What you say above is correct only if there is a squad to be upgraded. If Arjac is on his own (disallaowed by 40k rules but allowed by ETL rules) then it's only the upgrade value you can claim i.e. 170. So just to understand, after this week no more people can sign up, but those of us already signed up can continue to add pledges to our vows?? Correct. However after the 15th no modifications to vows are allowed. You can always make a new vow ONCE the previous one is complete but you will not be able change the content of the vow. Also remember that if you fail a subsequent vow ALL previous vows are nullified. So be extra confident before you raise the stakes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3077799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok, count me in, I'm amazed by how good simple green is! “I chezzie answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Ragnar Blackmane from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 240 on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Sons of Russ and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Could someone who has the codex to hand confirm the points for me, I'm having a paranoia attack that it's not right! David Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok, count me in, I'm amazed by how good simple green is! “I chezzie answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Ragnar Blackmane from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 240 on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Sons of Russ and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Could someone who has the codex to hand confirm the points for me, I'm having a paranoia attack that it's not right! David Unless You are painting his wolf companions too, the points are right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok, count me in, I'm amazed by how good simple green is! “I chezzie answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Ragnar Blackmane from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 240 on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Sons of Russ and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Could someone who has the codex to hand confirm the points for me, I'm having a paranoia attack that it's not right! David Unless You are painting his wolf companions too, the points are right. I'd love to but don't have any, so ok then add me in at 240 :sweat: David Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Done! :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rylanor Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok this is the first time I've entered any form of challenge here, so here goes. “I Brother Rylanor answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Grey Hunter Pack and Wolf Guard Battle Leader Gudrek from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 315 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to Vlka Fenryka (Space Wolves) and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” This is the breakdown of what I'll be painting: 10 man Grey Hunter Pack: 195 points Wolf Guard Battle Leader: 120 points Total points: 315 Wish me luck. Rylanor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok this is the first time I've entered any form of challenge here, so here goes. “I Brother Rylanor answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Grey Hunter Pack Gudrek from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 238 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to Vlka Fenryka (Space Wolves) and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” This is the breakdown of what I'll be painting: 10 man Grey Hunter Pack: 150 points 2 x Melta guns (2nd free): 5 points 1 x Power Weapon: 15 points Wolf Standard: 10 points Mark of the Wulfen: 15 points Wolf Guard Pack Leader: 18 points Combi Melta: 5 points Power Fist: 20 points Total points: 238 Wish me luck. Rylanor. Just label the Wolf Guard Pack Leader as WG Battle Leader, since otherwise Your entry is considered illegal Codex-wise (see my entry above - it is exactly the same as Yours) - in short, either You are bringing 3 Wolf Guards (min.size) or none. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 That's great Brother Rylanor - good luck with you vow. Two points though: 1. refrain from using detail point values - it's against B&C rules. What you can do instead is leave the equipment breakdown intact and just put the total points of your entry. 2. Wolf Guard pack leaders come in minimum of three.. What I suggest you do is call him a WG Battle Leader and cost him appropriately. I think you will find this to your benefit in terms of points :) EDIT: Ninja'd by Cain! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rylanor Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok this is the first time I've entered any form of challenge here, so here goes. “I Brother Rylanor answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete Grey Hunter Pack Gudrek from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 238 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to Vlka Fenryka (Space Wolves) and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” This is the breakdown of what I'll be painting: 10 man Grey Hunter Pack: 150 points 2 x Melta guns (2nd free): 5 points 1 x Power Weapon: 15 points Wolf Standard: 10 points Mark of the Wulfen: 15 points Wolf Guard Pack Leader: 18 points Combi Melta: 5 points Power Fist: 20 points Total points: 238 Wish me luck. Rylanor. Just label the Wolf Guard Pack Leader as WG Battle Leader, since otherwise Your entry is considered illegal Codex-wise (see my entry above - it is exactly the same as Yours) - in short, either You are bringing 3 Wolf Guards (min.size) or none. That's great Brother Rylanor - good luck with you vow. Two points though: 1. refrain from using detail point values - it's against B&C rules. What you can do instead is leave the equipment breakdown intact and just put the total points of your entry. 2. Wolf Guard pack leaders come in minimum of three.. What I suggest you do is call him a WG Battle Leader and cost him appropriately. I think you will find this to your benefit in terms of points :) Ok taken onboard the above points and amended my post as accordingly, cheers guys. Rylanor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybnick Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Good luck Brother Rylanor! I'm sure you will do do the Fang proud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ok taken onboard the above points and amended my post as accordingly, cheers guys. Rylanor. Great - table updated with your vow! Good luck mate! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactire Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 capt semper tell me if i got this right because i have already pledged i can update even after the 15th of june, or do i have to upgrade now ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordKejl Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I assume, Dark Angel, that a Son of Russ my still enter your....challenge of competition? If so, I have not the time to read your petty rules..when is the challenge of painting a pack's armor over? (in other words..I cant read and didnt see when the competition is over!!) :lol: Wolf Lord Kejl Todd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 And I quote: Timing of the event: E TENEBRAE LUX opening: May 15th Vow submission period: May 15th until June 15th at 22:00 GMT E TENEBRAE LUX ending: August 15 at 22:00 GMT. Looks like the 15th of August is indeed the final day to complete what ever you happen to vow. Get crackin brother!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I assume, Dark Angel, that a Son of Russ my still enter your....challenge of competition? If so, I have not the time to read your petty rules..when is the challenge of painting a pack's armor over? (in other words..I cant read and didnt see when the competition is over!!) :lol: Wolf Lord Kejl Todd May 15th through June 15th you can vow, after that the door is closed to any new comers. Those already in may vow more units once their initial vow is complete, up until the end date, August 15th. HOWEVER, if you fail a subsequent vow, you fail ALL of your vows, so tread cautiously brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3078885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 capt semper tell me if i got this right because i have already pledged i can update even after the 15th of june, or do i have to upgrade now ? You can modify your vow at any time until June 15th. You can also make a new vow (provided you completed your previous one) at any time untinl August 15th. After June 15th you cannot modify your vow. You have to complete it and then choose if you want to carry on with a new one or not. Remember though, failing to complete a vow by August 15th means that all previuos vows are nullified - the count for nothing. So you need to be confident before you raise the stakes! ;) I assume, Dark Angel, that a Son of Russ my still enter your....challenge of competition? If so, I have not the time to read your petty rules..when is the challenge of painting a pack's armor over? (in other words..I cant read and didnt see when the competition is over!!) :tu: Wolf Lord Kejl Todd Your learned brothers got it right. You have to place your first vow by June 15th. You can also modify your vow until June 15th. f you do not place a vow until June 15th you can not take part in the E TENEBRAE LUX. AFTER June 15th you can no longer modify your vow. When you complete it (and only then) you can vow again. Keep in mind though that you are liable for all your vows so if you fail to complete a subsequent vow all previous ones are nullified. So be extra sure before you raise the stakes! Good luck! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 “I pig of sparta answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete a Lone Wolf in Tactical Dreadnought Armourand a pack of 5 Fenrisian Wolves from Codex: Space Wolves of total value 100pts on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Vlka Fenryka and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Progress pictures can be found here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Welcome Brothers Wolf Lord Kejl and Pig of Sparta, now we have some new blood (one of which is of the venerated Librarium) we shall surely beat these fashion-mongering dress-wearing heretic lovers, that is if it wasn't obvious that we'd win due to be his most loyal sons... as one great fellow may have once said... "You Dare Challenge Me... This Is No Dress-Wearer's Land... This Is FENRIIISS!!" ;) onwards brothers :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Pig of Sparta's vow is in and the table is updated. Good luck! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Alright, I think I'll be able to pull it off in a month... so count me in. “I, Wulfebane, answer the challenge of the Unforgiven and vow to complete a Rune Priest in TDA with a retinue of 3 Wolf Guard (including Arjac Rockfist) from Codex: Space Wolves, for a total value of 452 points on or before August 15. Success will bring eternal glory to the Sons of Russ, and failure will doom me to bear the sign of damnation until the year-end” Progress will be posted here. Out of curiosity, what is the "sign of damnation"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Great to see you join Wulfebane! your vow is in - table updated! The "sign of damnation" will be a banner with some suitably elaborate message denoting defeat and failure to meet the challenge of the Unforgiven! This would be worn by individuals that have failed to complete their vow irrespective of whether their faction became Champions or not. Similarly, for those that complete their vows, irrespectively of whether their faction is overall winner, they'll be eligible for an "I did it" banner. The Champions of course will receive the Champions banner that will be super amazing and all will bow to its radience and importance! :) No badge is as yet made so stay tuned and we will make them public as soon as they are ready! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3079952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Can't wait to see the banners, that way motivation starts cranking! Momentarily i'm having a slow moment for painting. The sinister urge comes and 1k seems easy to crank out after starting..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3080018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I know what you mean Rayray... I got some base colors down and then my desire to paint went AWOL. I have been assembling TDAWG (because I need more...) that I hope to add to my vow once the Wolf Priest is done, but I got to get a brush back on him first!! Maybe seeing the sweet ass banner we'll be claiming would do the trick!! <_< End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3080177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I know what you mean Rayray... I got some base colors down and then my desire to paint went AWOL. I have been assembling TDAWG (because I need more... <_< ) that I hope to add to my vow once the Wolf Priest is done, but I got to get a brush back on him first!! Maybe seeing the sweet ass banner we'll be claiming would do the trick!! :) End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3080178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordKejl Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I will vow to paint for the Russ. I will need to get home and "Points out" the squad first before I post the vow. Ill do that tonight! Wolf Lork Kejl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/252373-e-tenebrae-lux/page/11/#findComment-3080213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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