Chaplain's hobby misc. Red Gobbo!

[The_Chaplain]

Nice work man, looking good. You mentioned making cracked asphalt bases early on and just wondered if you'd given any thought to crackle paint.

I have heard about crackle paint in the past- but i've heard you have to bake it for it to adhere properly, and you can't do that with a plastic base! Firemen already came to my house once this year, don't want em keeping satellite surveillance on my house!  

 

I'll definitely give it a whirl when it comes time to paint; if it doesn't pan out, I'll try using it for things like murals/frescos, cracked shoulderpad paint, etc. 

 

Cheers though on the idea, that has a lot of potential (and thanks for looking)

[Brother Captain Sirus]

Try Tim Holtz disress crackle it air drys and all you have to do is pva your base before application.

[YoungWolf7]

For cables, I find these "Power Cables" from Dragonforge invaluable:

 

http://www.dragonforge.com/Painting%20service/for%20sale/sculpting_supplies.htm

 

They're pewter casts of guitar strings. Very flexible and east to bend to shape. :)

[Brother Heinrich]

I use one of these bad boys for all my cable needs, works like a charm and you can vary the width depending on your needs. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W52Dpb8rkQ4

[The_Chaplain]

Try Tim Holtz disress crackle it air drys and all you have to do is pva your base before application.

Awesome, I'll give that a look when the time comes.

 

For cables, I find these "Power Cables" from Dragonforge invaluable...They're pewter casts of guitar strings. Very flexible and east to bend to shape.

While I try to avoid metal on models as much as possible, I might give these a try for something that needs cabling at angles, like on a vehicle. Also, that model chain is a very handy link, cheers.

 

 

I use one of these bad boys for all my cable needs, works like a charm and you can vary the width depending on your needs.

Wow, that is a handy little product right there! Thanks for the link Heinrich, I'm always so shocked when a better modeller than myself pops in to my thread; and your nightlords are leagues above where I'm at currently.

 

Wasn't at my workbench at all today- but this morning I placed a small bitz order including a new tail fin for the stormraven off the dark talon for a surprise I have planned, as well as some odds and ends. Hopefully they should arrive in a week or so, never ordered from bitz barn before, but figured what the heck right? As soon as I get the parts I'll launch into work and get some more pictures up. And I'll work on this and that in the meantime for a massive update next time around.

 

Thanks for all the wonderful c&c guys, much appreciated! Have a nice remainder of your weekend!

Edited October 19, 2013 by The_Chaplain

[Brother Heinrich]

Bah! I'm not a better modeler my friend, I've seen the GS work you do, and the scaring on that Apothecaries head is something truly brutal and inspired. Keep it up!

[The_Chaplain]

Bah! I'm not a better modeler my friend, I've seen the GS work you do, and the scaring on that Apothecaries head is something truly brutal and inspired. Keep it up!

You're gonna make me blush with that level of praise brother; that or inflate my ego, haha.  

 

To be honest, the scarring was my first every sculpting attempt on something- and I had to use visual references from medical journals, horror movies, etc to get the texture right.   Up until that point, I had only press molded stuff, it's only now that I'm really experimenting with sculpting/gap filling/etc.  Still, getting my hands on actual sculpting tools (right now im using exacto blades and pens) and nifty tools like that tentacle sculpting box, maybe I can close that perceived skill gap.  One of the many things I'm envious about your nightlords is how smooth your sculpted armor panels and such are! 

[ephrael]

I'll give you some advice on sculpting even though II don't do much myself.  For smooth results you should get a set of Colour Shapers.  I got mine from Dickblick.com and that wasn't a typo, that's how they spell it.  I have a full set in firm and soft and if I was going to sculpt more I would get the extra firm. I didn't like the soft at all, too soft.  I also like a putty called ProCreate by Kraftmark.  It's a two part putty like greenstuff but I found it a little easier to work with.  I'm sure that Brother Heinrich can give you more info than me but the clay shapers is a big one.

[Brother Heinrich]

Actually Mikhail pretty much hit it on the head, rubber colour shapers are the key to my success, they literally multiplied my skill level by 10. I would recommend getting the 4 pack that has the 4 different tip shapes. I use the extra firm ones, they're great because they have enough give to create smooth lines but enough body to push GS around. I still use a hobby razor for all my super fine detail work, i.e. muscle fibres, teeth, and cutting sharp angles for chaos arrows, etc. In the end it's all about the tools, the right tool for the right job will make it insanely easier to do quality sculpting, check out some of Zsoulless's work, he is a peerless sculptor but he's also got a ton of tools, a good number that he fabricated himself that make his life 10x easier. The rest is just letting your imagination run wild :)

 

http://www.dickblick.com/products/colour-shaper-mini-sets/

[Brother Captain Sirus]

This thread is great imo, nice models and loads of advice from things we've been trying (as sculpting is one of my strongest areas, may have something to do with using a craft blade and paint brush handle lol)

[The_Chaplain]

Dickblick dot com, eh? I'll give it a look. This thread is helping me out with recommendations on how to tackle future endeavors it's unreal. Once I secure a job ill start the tried and true hobby budget and start purchasing these tools. No sense doing things the hard way when I can get a superior quality with tools and tips you all recommend. Thanks for all the tips, tricks of the trade, recommendations for thread views, etc. it means the world to me.

[The_Chaplain]

Okay, the shutdown ate all my model pictures from yesterday, and all of the votes one way or the other.  Here are the pictures again.

 

option 1 helbrecht backpack for my emperor's champion taken from a "head on" angle.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/10482673653_ba7a836927_z.jpg

 

option 1 helbrecht backpack for my emperor's champion taken from a "rear" angle.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3819/10482719343_b0261a4730_z.jpg

 

option 2 reclusiam command squad chaplain for the champ taken from the head on angle.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/10482553136_919b80bcc2_z.jpg

 

option 2 taken from the rear:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3828/10482545185_a13b62716f_z.jpg

 

Here is a birdseye view of the model:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2809/10482564684_3f14682f55_z.jpg

 

Progress continued on the flying church:

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/298/8/5/stormraven_conversion_continues__new_tail___by_emo_catboy-d6rqyth.jpg

 

I hybridized the tail from the stormraven with one from the dark talon/nephilim to give it height, it is rougly double the size now. Here is what I'm contemplating doing:

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/298/9/3/stormraven_conversion_continues__wait_what___by_emo_catboy-d6rqzno.jpg

 

Since my stormtalon fuselage is broken, I figured why not make lemonade out of lemons and slap some more engines on that mechanical turkey.  If my head math is right, I should be able to mount the circular joint from the talon onto the sides of the tail and have clearance from the main engines.  Thoughts?

 

Please let me know what option you vote(d) for, sorry the shutdown ate all the previous votes, I was gonna tabulate them this morning too!

[Brother Captain Sirus]

You didn't put the 'where was this photo taken challenge' back up

[The_Chaplain]

You didn't put the 'where was this photo taken challenge' back up

Someone won it last night (boatman if memory serves) and the internet cookie was dispensed.  I also decided against the conversion featured in the picture, so didn't feel reposting the picture warranted a second uploading.  This data loss hasn't exactly improved my mood in addition to real life problems rearing their ugly head. It's taken a toll on my mirth and holiday joviality.   

[The_Chaplain]

Happy Belated Halloween B&C!  

 

Wanted to get these pictures up yesterday but stuff kept popping up, and then we were flooded by trick or treaters (somehow, I didn't expect it, despite over 20 military families moving into our community this year. Glad we got extra candy just in case!)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/10608983336_56cd5cc323.jpg

a cheshire cat! (we actually mounted him on a ladder with a black tablecloth so it looked like it was floating in midair from the street)

 

And of course, what's a warhammer related thread without....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7455/10608996816_4148c5f223_c.jpg

A skull!  (I don't think I'll be attempting negative space pumpkin carving again anytime soon. It doesn't help that the pumpkin was harder than ceramite either haha)

 

 

And if halloween isn't your thing...

 

Today's agenda is posting 2 head options for voting!

 

Option 1: Sevrin Loth Honour Guard head "charging":

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3687/10608886624_0ca2479fc8_z.jpg

 

Option 1 "sidelong":

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/10609190373_708a67e497_z.jpg

 

I personally like this helmet, because it looks somewhat similar to the helmet the black templars wore in the space marine video game:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/10570481005_6c9e90b92e_m.jpg

 

option 2 is the emperor's champion default head, here's what it looks like on the new torso (sorry if it looks wobbly, it's because it is- I'd have to cut the back of the head to fit it in to the gorget armor or something)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3744/10608971316_41bc3ae911_z.jpg

 

and the "sidelong shot"

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5480/10609201813_758caa2e38_z.jpg

 

Which head do you like better 1 or 2?  Keep in mind I could easily put laurels onto head option 1.  Hell, I could even put the studded bar onto the grille and wiring from the space marine video game helmet onto 1, we'll call that option 3.  1 2 or 3 folks?

 

Once this is settled, I need to tidy up the chest and get the arms affixed (any insight into that by the way, dont want to make the arms look freakishly long).

 

 

Thanks for looking! comments, critiques and criticism as always are encouraged!

[Barabbas Sogalon]

I vote for option 3. Looks more knighty.

[deathspectersgt7]

Option 1 looks the best.

[The_Chaplain]

Thanks for the votes so far guys! 

[Dragonkin Arenis]

To be honest, I like the look of #2 - the grille plate and pipes you suggest don't suit the helmet at all, and whilst #1 is a great helmet in its own right, I don't think it suits the type of character you're going for in the Emperor's Champion.

 

Truth be told, I don't think either helmet works with the gorget you have on the torso, so perhaps you could model the helmet from 'Space Marine' on a regular head and customise it to fit the body. That might work better.

Sorry, I have this pedantic streak about having heads/helmets that look like they have a full range of movement behind a gorget - it's why sometimes I trim beakies to fit Mk.VIII chestplates, because a. it can move freely behind the protection, and b. instant knightly helmet.

 

As for arms, I can't help you there, sadly, but this is some promising work. Keep it up!

Edited November 1, 2013 by Dragonkin Arenis

[ephrael]

I vote option one and for the arms, the two handed chain sword from the MK IV upgrade set from FW has the exact pair you need, no cutting required.  I wish I would have realized that earlier.

[The_Chaplain]

 

Sorry, I have this pedantic streak about having heads/helmets that look like they have a full range of movement behind a gorget

No need to apologize brother! I'm equally hung up about certain details; I can understand the mentality perfectly. I appreciate all comments, and they open up potential for new/different ideas and conversions.

Truth be told, I don't think either helmet works with the gorget you have on the torso, so perhaps you could model the helmet from 'Space Marine' on a regular head and customise it to fit the body. That might work better.

Hmmm, an interesting idea. I will explore it further, stay tuned.

 the two handed chain sword from the MK IV upgrade set from FW has the exact pair you need, no cutting required. I wish I would have realized that earlier.

 

That's the lovely thing about hindsight- it's 20/20! I'll have to research these arms.

The gears are turning once again...stay tuned.

Edited November 1, 2013 by The_Chaplain

[ephrael]

Let me know if you need the arms, I still have them here.  

[The_Chaplain]

Let me know if you need the arms, I still have them here.  

Message sent, Emperor bless you Mikhail.

 

Okay guys, working on some odds tonight as I'm not feeling well (decided to stay at home rather than get my fiance sick).  So, anybody got any ideas for making a bike command squad look like less of a vanilla command squad and more like a chaplain's cadre?

 

You know...looking at my workspace... I'm really starting to think my conversion philosophy has changed to the point that I'm not gonna be happy with a model unless they look like they've just escaped from an 80's heavy metal album cover.  I think I might have to make a background with explosions and whatnot for taking pictures this weekend just to illustrate this.

[Dragonkin Arenis]

You want a Biker Command Squad to look more like a Chaplain's Command Squad? I'd suggest lots of blacks, golds, etc. as far as the colour scheme goes, and adding loads of other bits like censures, skulls/bone motifs, braziers and the like; the Legion of the Damned sets would be a great for this conversion, so long as you don't mind cutting up those beautiful models.

 

Perhaps for the 'Standard Bearer', you could have him totting a 'holy relic' rather than a standard? Like one of the censures from the Deathwing Command Squad box. Either that, or the back banner from the LotD Sergeant could make a pretty convincing Reclusiam 'standard'. 

Company Champion - perhaps the axe arm from the LotD Sergeant and a Grey Knights torso?

 

Other than that, I don't know what to suggest.

[kapturowski]

Very nice conversions and posing of the minis! Lovely use of bits. :)