Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 and if done right it would look amazing :p thinking of a diorama, 3 of them and 5-10 imp guardsmen being slaughtered :) shame I'm not a good enough painter or modeller to do it myself haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Any one see color plates for the WE Red Butchers? I need to know if I need to practice different colors if they are different than the blue of white. Hey chap, I'm afraid not. There aren't many colour plates for the original 4 Legions, they show a terminator from each Legion and some of their tanks and that's all. When the minis go up on the FW site, I'm sure there will be some examples of them painted up. Probably blue and white and red all over :-D That saddens me. I'm thinking they maybe normal colors, but was thinking of painting them up in the red/brass to make them stand out and to show that gradual change to Khorne in my force. They will be led by Khârn (and command squad, with some bolt pistol/chain axe tac squads). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Paint them as you'd like, mate. Just say those guys took the 'Red Butchers' thing so seriously they only cleaned their bronze trim, leaving the blood to cover the rest of the armour. Even if FW paints them white n' blue, it's not like you'll be piledriving fluff because of one tiny colour change. And, you know, it goes with the name =p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just remember, dried blood actually turns brown ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yea, I'll paint them as I see fit, but the rest of the force (73 jumppack models) is blue/white. So it becomes a force cohesion question. Blue/white will blend them in, but do I want 2 wound raging termies to blend in? Looking at close ups of the models, they look similar to the chaos upgrades that FW already has, they just lack the full chaos icons and bunny ears. Just remember, dried blood actually turns brown I have some old Reaper blood red that dries the red-brown color and the I put GW blood red on top for un-dried blood. Either way they will be full of Khorne redness! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 If I were you I'd paint them White/Blue but the difference being this. Splatter overtop loads of blood and gore. Essentially the clearness of the blood will allow through the original blue/white but splatter it heavily over them. Here is the tutorial I used for bloody chainswords and stuff. http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2012/11/tutorial-how-to-paint-realistic-blood.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, if you paint them brown, then they just look like poop throwing monkeys haha I think that they would look awesome in a bronze or verdigris color Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Aye or go the slightly mental route - and use real blood :P only done this once and weird it was but it did look good haha That tutorial's ace btw :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 You could do all bronze and make them mini-Angrons! Refer to them using Doctor Evil's voice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3485701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Any interesting, previously unknown bits on the Isstvan battle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 There were Army units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Both loyalist and traitors? I asked that because Betrayal's in-depth account showed bits like Mortarion getting plasma-shot or him assaulting underground loyalist Death Guard barricades, slaughtering them all from the shadows. I love that kind of details. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 From what I could see of the Report Maps, yes there were Imperial Army units on both sides as well as the Legio Astorum I think it's called. You can find them on Lexicanum as the Fire Swords. Not much said about them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verity Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Someone pointed something out over at 4chan that seems mildly interesting. In the "Using the Legio Cybernetica" bit over on page 264, it says you can take them for "a Space Marine Crusade Legion army, Imperial Army or Rogue Trader Militant army". Not too clued up on the whole Rogue Trader thing, so anyone know what's up with that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Well, that's interesting indeed. RT characters in future HH books? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Maybe a hint of what they got planned? Rogue Traders in the Crusade-era were like forward scouts with big teeth, moving sometimes far ahead of the Expeditions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Wow thats going to arouse a lot of people :D some neck beards are already sweating over the mechanicum, so to see the Rogue traders would be nice too!!! I think these have been made possible by the huge success of the Horus Heresy, oh and letters b and a :P It sounded like Tony Cotrell was changing his mind about putting xenos in around 30k too, he was very hesitant about it, but from the recent interviews and powerpoint presentations it seems like he is being swayed to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What I could see them doing is a Horus Heresy: Xenos which has army lists for all the Xenos armies and potentially characters during that era. Have Xenos such as the Laer, Orcs, Eldar etc. Eldar wouldn't be substantially different but races like the Laer would be awesome to see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Laer, Murder, Interex, Diaspora, Nephilim, the Brotherhood, these are armies I want to see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 If forgeworld can make boob trolls for warhammer (ahem....), then they sure as hell can make xenos factions for 30k!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Can anyone tell me just how dark/light the Word Bearers Grey is? Derp, I guess the Ashen Circle preview would probably suffice. If however anyone has any pics from the book of the front on shot, feel free to drop that in here. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3489702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 What I could see them doing is a Horus Heresy: Xenos which has army lists for all the Xenos armies and potentially characters during that era. Have Xenos such as the Laer, Orcs, Eldar etc. Eldar wouldn't be substantially different but races like the Laer would be awesome to see. Laer, Murder, Interex, Diaspora, Nephilim, the Brotherhood, these are armies I want to see. We were told at the Horus Heresy Weekender that they would be concentrating 100% on the Human aspect of the Horus Heresy, and that they would not be producing Rules or Models for any of the Alien species mentioned in the novels. FW aren't even going to be doing their own Daemons for the Word Bearers Allies - they have said that people will have to use GW Plastic Daemons to represent them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3490396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 By specifying 'Word Bearer allies', I assume you mean those in the Signus book will get models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3490405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 What I could see them doing is a Horus Heresy: Xenos which has army lists for all the Xenos armies and potentially characters during that era. Have Xenos such as the Laer, Orcs, Eldar etc. Eldar wouldn't be substantially different but races like the Laer would be awesome to see. Laer, Murder, Interex, Diaspora, Nephilim, the Brotherhood, these are armies I want to see. We were told at the Horus Heresy Weekender that they would be concentrating 100% on the Human aspect of the Horus Heresy, and that they would not be producing Rules or Models for any of the Alien species mentioned in the novels. FW aren't even going to be doing their own Daemons for the Word Bearers Allies - they have said that people will have to use GW Plastic Daemons to represent them. We know. But dreaming is still an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3490799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ha The Horus Heresy on this scale was a dream too ;) it really was Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/13/#findComment-3490804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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