Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doesn't say anything about why he wore red gauntlets, doesn't even mention him in the Night Lords article untll you get to the legion army list at the back of the book and the small amount of lore that comes with him basically says he was considered one of the most dangerous marines up their with the likes of Abaddon, Radaron, Corswain and Eidolon. There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3481964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? Hasdrubal Serapis Captain in the Sons of Horus. Only Serapis I can find, but I don't think thats it as I've heard it somewhere else... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3481973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Serapis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapis Google shows 'Dragon of Serapis' to be a deity in the hindu pantheon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3481980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Serapis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapis Google shows 'Dragon of Serapis' to be a deity in the hindu pantheon. The pic on the right of that link shows him having a plant pot on his head.... Interesting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doesn't say anything about why he wore red gauntlets, doesn't even mention him in the Night Lords article untll you get to the legion army list at the back of the book and the small amount of lore that comes with him basically says he was considered one of the most dangerous marines up their with the likes of Abaddon, Radaron, Corswain and Eidolon. There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? Don't forget the undefeated (legally, at least) Sigismund ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doesn't say anything about why he wore red gauntlets, doesn't even mention him in the Night Lords article untll you get to the legion army list at the back of the book and the small amount of lore that comes with him basically says he was considered one of the most dangerous marines up their with the likes of Abaddon, Radaron, Corswain and Eidolon. There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? Don't forget the undefeated (legally, at least) Sigismund . Aye of course but funnily enough it doesn't mention him in the list they give, only the ones above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verity Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Probably indicating Sigsimund is a tier above...Or, one of the writers had a very serious derp moment. Not to badger you too much on the same tired old topics...But anything interesting pop out about Curze, and any of his interactions with his brothers? I'll admit that we've seen a lot of these so far, what with Vulkan, Lorgar, Corax, Dorn, The Lion, Fulgrim and now apparently a little bit with Gulliman...But still curious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Not much, it mentions the altercation with Dorn briefly in the part which explains why the legion blew up Nostromo. Other than that it fills out the detail of the legion, it's early events, the changes that happened due to more Nostromo marines replacing Terrans. Personally it explains why the Emperor didn't reprimand the Night Lords, they were doing what the Emperor made them for, they were a necessary monster to stem rebellion and outright punish any who did it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So I guess the Night Lords were the real executioners. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Not so much there's a story where they leg it from Orks in space allowing a smaller detachment of Iron Warriors to get wiped out, their excuse was the Orks don't fear them. They tried to make up a better excuse as to why they did it though. They did however board the space hulk with some terror squads and haunted it for a long period which stopped the Orks from progressing, but I wouldn't call them especially martial, once you get past their terror tactics they're nothing special. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Before Games Day, Alan Bligh suggested there was some kind of big reveal previously unknown about an aspect of the Iron Hands fluffwise, any idea what it is? (Oh and btw, thanks for all the info, this is fantastically cool stuff) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 They were nearly called the Storm Walkers maybe? I've only got about half way through the history of them so far, will mention if anything that stands out comes up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verity Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Not much, it mentions the altercation with Dorn briefly in the part which explains why the legion blew up Nostromo. Other than that it fills out the detail of the legion, it's early events, the changes that happened due to more Nostromo marines replacing Terrans. Personally it explains why the Emperor didn't reprimand the Night Lords, they were doing what the Emperor made them for, they were a necessary monster to stem rebellion and outright punish any who did it. Hmm, that's interesting...Lends a bit more credence to the theory that the Emperor sanctioned their actions, as claimed by Zso Sahaal and denied by Acerbus (although I'm of the impression that people seemed to be a bit iffy on the validity of anything from book...) Not so much there's a story where they leg it from Orks in space allowing a smaller detachment of Iron Warriors to get wiped out, their excuse was the Orks don't fear them. They tried to make up a better excuse as to why they did it though. They did however board the space hulk with some terror squads and haunted it for a long period which stopped the Orks from progressing, but I wouldn't call them especially martial, once you get past their terror tactics they're nothing special. Bahahaha, that's brilliant! That's right there demonstrates my favourite bit of the Night Lords - so many of them, when it comes down to it, are little more than glorified thugs given more power than is probably responsible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Nipe. That happens during Istvaan V so it is very doubtful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Did they touch at all on the relationship between Curze and Mortarion? I know they say the two are close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Sigismund is in a league of his own as well ;) I guess it doesn't mention Khârn either, does it? (is delvarus better in the pits than him?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (is delvarus better in the pits than him?)Well, Kargos says that Delvarus is the best of them. Although that could mean a variety of things from being the best fighter, to the best at controlling the Nails(which might explain why he was trusted with 500 Nail-inflicted Astartes to fight on the flagship; and he did do a good job of not going crazy the whole time he was fighting and he still was able to control himself with a sword at his throat) to a variety of other things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yes, though do we ever see Khârn really try his hardest in the pits? He always took it as a joke iirc but he made erebus his :cuss who, almost beat lucius, the primier swordsman. Lucius was beaten by loken, who was in turn scared to crap and losing against Khârn in his bloodlust and pushes him into a passing raider (deus ex machina, lol did you notice? ;) ) Delvarus is awesome and Angron wanted him in the devourers but he said screw that. and Khârn was like whatever bro. I really liked the part about Kargos bloodspitter beating a devourer and carving his name in his armor (making fun of kaldor draigo) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 When did Erebus fight Lucius? :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Horus Rising. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Believe it was False Gods Horus Rising, Kol. He was in the Cage with Erebus before fighting Loken. Erebus does very well against Lucius. Lucius challenges Loken and Loken reminds him that he has just been sparring Erebus for a good while and is not 100% thereby making the bout "unfair." Lucius dismisses that belief and Loken gives his "the way we Luna Wolves fight" speech. Edit Ninjaed and yes, Horus rising. Thank you WOT Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It was Horus Rising, I just re-read the book last week. It's after the event on murder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Ah, been a while I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Doesn't say anything about why he wore red gauntlets, doesn't even mention him in the Night Lords article untll you get to the legion army list at the back of the book and the small amount of lore that comes with him basically says he was considered one of the most dangerous marines up their with the likes of Abaddon, Radaron, Corswain and Eidolon. There's a bit of fluff that peaks my interest, there's a Word Bearers contemptor dreadnought shown and it states it was found on the fringe locked in a death embrace with a Salamanders dreadnought called the Dragon of Sarapis. I swear I've heard that name before but I can't place my finger on it, any thoughts? Don't forget the undefeated (legally, at least) Sigismund . Undefeated like Lucius before he gets stabbed by a fellow EC commander post-Heresy ? That's a funny way to be undefeated, right ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I thought that the few points of view from the world eater NCOs pointed out that Khârn doesn't possess any of the trademark scars and pebble face that all the others have because he is such a consummate fighter both in the pits and out. If Khârn doesn't want you to hit him, he wont let you even near him (unless you are a wascly ultramarine who then gets eaten by Argel Tal :D ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/281128-book-2-massacre-any-more-info/page/8/#findComment-3482292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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