Khorne's Eternal Hunt - KrautScientist's chaotic WIP thread 2024: Baby steps...

[Skrundle87]

Again, thanks for the positive feedback, everyone! That surely motivates me to keep my focus on this rather huge project ;)

 

@ JeffTibbetts:Those fiend armour plates are slightly frustrating because they perfectly fit the legs just up until the point where I had to attach the legs to the pelvis area and add the leg pistons. They now sit at a rather awkward angle, unless I cut out a significant amount of plastic -- and I'm not quite sure I'm up to it yet ;)

 

@ skrundle: Cheers, mate! Your opinion was especially important to me because your own Knight has been such a wonderful source of inspiration! Glad you like my version so far! :)

That means alot man, cheers, can't wait for the rest

[KrautScientist]

 

Again, thanks for the positive feedback, everyone! That surely motivates me to keep my focus on this rather huge project

 

@ JeffTibbetts:Those fiend armour plates are slightly frustrating because they perfectly fit the legs just up until the point where I had to attach the legs to the pelvis area and add the leg pistons. They now sit at a rather awkward angle, unless I cut out a significant amount of plastic -- and I'm not quite sure I'm up to it yet

 

@ skrundle: Cheers, mate! Your opinion was especially important to me because your own Knight has been such a wonderful source of inspiration! Glad you like my version so far!

That means alot man, cheers, can't wait for the rest

 

 

Nothing but the truth, 'squire!

 

@ Biohazard: Cheers, buddy: The curvature of the armour plates is not the problem here, though: In principle, those armour plates fit onto the legs almost perfectly. It's only when the leg pistons and pelvis area get in the way that the problem starts...

 

That said, I did buckle up in the end and shaved off quite a bit of the armour plates. They now fit much better, I think:

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629333-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

As you can see, I also cut off the lower part of the "crotch plate", because I wanted the slightly chaotic decoration on the banner to be visible.

 

I also started assembling the Knight's chainsword arm. While this may be disappointing to some of you, I'll definitely stick with the standard weaponry that comes with the kit because the combination of a cannon of some sort and a huge chainsword is such an iconic part of Knight Titans for me. That said, both arms will of course get decorations to make them look more chaotic. Oh, and let me also add that the construction of those arms is extremely clever, making them very poseable and easily attachable to the model without a drop of glue!

 

Anyway, here's the Knight as it stands right now:

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629336-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

And, as suggested by JeffTibbetts, I reversed the direction of the tusks on the faceplate, in order to make them mirror the look of the tusks on the pelvis armour -- what do you think?

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629335-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

The other thing I did was to tidy up the conversion work on the model for Baron Harrowthorne: He now has a left arm (and I also attached a small console on his left armrest in order to actually give his hand something to do). Take a look:

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629341-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629337-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629338-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629339-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629340-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

The next huge task will be to actually construct the cockpit for the Knight's interior and somehow fit the Baron in tere, if only temporarily. I am currently waiting for a bitz delivery before I can finally tackle that part.

 

Anyway, let me know what you think! 

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629334-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

Edited July 12, 2014 by KrautScientist

[Forté]

Nice thigh armour. It's all coming together nicely.

[deathspectersgt7]

NNIIICCCEE!!!!!

[Teetengee]

Armour plates look great, but I prefer the tusks facing down to be honest. Although I don't know if they would interfere with the movement of the legs.

[Battybattybats]

Looks great!
Think i prefer tusks pointing down... but i think i'd need some quarter-side-on angle pics of both to be sure, either way both look good i'm just not sure which i think looks best.
The work on the baron's arm is excellent, the pose really strengthens the feeling of his personality.

[Skrundle87]

Definately coming along awesomely, I think I prefer the horns the first way but not certain still.

 

I must add the baron looks cool as

[High Marshal Sigfeird]

Very cool I had a similar idea but game wise what do you use this as a lord of skulls ? Also for your pilot where is the cockpit from :)? Edited July 12, 2014 by High Marshal Sigfeird

[KrautScientist]

Cheers, guys! :)

 

@ Teetengee: Oh, I was only referring to the tusks on the faceplate! The ones one the groin plate will definitely stay that way because turning them around would a) probably be pretty hard to pull off and b) indeed make them interfere with the legs.

 

@ High Marshal Siegfeird: Hmm, if this guy does ever see a gaming table, I'll probably ask my opponent whether I can actually use him as a Knight allied to my CSM force (ignoring the allies matrix in the BRB). That said, using the model as a LoS would be an option as well... The throne was build from half a Space Marine Landspeeder cockpit, btw.

[Biohazard]

He's looking infinitely better now mate. The extra work has definitely paid off. Looking forward to the progress on the cockpit.

[Teetengee]

You are allowed to ally the knight, it just has to stay 12" away from the rest at the beginning (and will suffer from one eye open).

[Redwunzgofasta]

WOAH!! Your army looks AMAZING! Really inspiring stuff!

[KrautScientist]

Thanks, guys! :)

 

@ Teetengee: Yeah, I know. But seeing how so much of 7th edition seems to be all about customising the game to fit your taste, I would probably rather ask my opponent whether I can use the Knight and/or my Traitor Guard as regular allies without having to follow the, frankly rather arbitrary, official allies matrix. Then again, I am only ever playing friendly games, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Work on the Knight continues in small but important steps. Here's what I managed to achieve yesterday:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629505-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629506-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

The most noticeable addition is the use of etched brass: A small Khorne rune for the face plate, a World Eaters legion badge for the heraldic tilting plate and a bigger Khornate symbol for the hatch leading to the cockpit:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629507-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

You may also have noticed that, after going back and forth about this several times, I returned to the downwards pointed tusks on the faceplate -- they simply look more balanced that way. I also tried different tusks and horns in several configurations - among them two different pairs of horns from that huge WFB Beastman monster - but bigger horns only ended up looking silly. I am really rather content with the tusks as they are now, because they are big enough to be noticeable but not so big as to be distracting or ridiculous.

Oh, and I also worked on the left shoulder pad. Here's what it looks like now:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629508-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

While I always liked the Knight model per se, it's now actually starting to feel like this could indeed be a pretty awesome centrepiece model when finished. Wish me luck! ;)

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629509-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

And, as always, let me know what you think!  :)

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/13/629510-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

[Teetengee]

I really like the tusks like that.

[TearsOfTheRaven]

where are these jetpacks from?

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/11/13/556247-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash.JPG

[KrautScientist]

@ Teetengee: Cheers, mate! :)

 

@ TearsOfTheRaven: Huh. Talk about a non sequitur... Anyway, the jetpack are from MaxMini. Other, more recent designs are available as well. Hope this helps!

[TearsOfTheRaven]

thanks, does that mean "something" is coming?

Edited July 13, 2014 by TearsOfTheRaven

[daemonclaw]

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/12/629339-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

 

 

 

make sure you dont press the lever marked " purge" there baron 

 

 

this knight is coming together beautifully mate really great job

[ElDuderino]

Sweet, I really like that shoulder pad!

[Augustus b'Raass]

I love what you did to the face plate and you used the edged brass like a boss. I love that you used ogre belly plates as knee pads - which work nicely as WE symbols. Good job mate! Also - and I'm sure you're going to fix this: the blu-tacked spikes are a little croocked, which make the whole 'composition' of the spikes look a little off balance. I know that it's caused by the blutac but still: I'm pointing it out so you can keep it in mind when doing the final glueing. I also have endless trust that you'll do an aweseom job because one of the things I really dig about your army is that there's never too much and never too little.

 

@TearsoftheRaven: No.

[Montuhotep]

This is all working out very nicely indeed - as ever your choice of bits is perfect - at least now I know why I can never find any Heldrake or Fiend armour plates in the bits stores!

[NoLats_McGee]

Wow man, just wow to everything here. I finally read this from beginning to end after glancing at parts for ages, and I've never been keener to go do some kitbashing. Haha. Great work.

[KrautScientist]

Thanks a lot, guys! I really appreciate the positive feedback!

 

Two things today: First up, fellow Dakkanaut dantay_xv had an amazing idea for Barrow Harrowthorne's background that I want to share with you. To quote dantay himself:

 

Ah well, no worries. The other idea I had, but again might not work would be bloody hand prints on the lower limbs and small totems or skulls at the feet of the knoight like offerings or devotions

As the 4th company go to war they walk by Harrowthornes Knight & touch a blooded hand to its armour in the hope of receiving Khornes blessing for a good hunt etc before going to battle.

Harrow thorne despises the men of the 4th Company for such acts of brutish superstition, but by their simple acts, his pride has been rekindled by regaining a small measure of the power he lost when honouring his debts to Angron and his World Eaters.

Like the ord of War that the Baron is he, strides forth amongst his "charges" and reaps terror and discord on the weak and pitiful worshiipers of the Corpse God.

However the aloof-ness of the Baron, plus  the veneration which some of his men heap upon the Knight is beginning to grate on the Huntsmasters nerves and some speculate that there will come a time when the 4th are called upon to go big game hunting before the Baron's hubris becomes a threat to the Huntsmasters rule.

I think this is an absolutely fantastic idea, and something that would perfectly fit my World Eaters! I may have to do one or two small adjustments in order to make the fluff fit my idea of Harrowthorne (there is no actual hubris to him, for instance, at least not when dealing with the legionaries of the 4th), but I'll definitely adopt this part into the "official" lore of Khorne's Eternal Hunt :)
 

The other thing I want to talk about is the latest update on the model itself: After a particularly grueling day at work (Mondays will do that to you), I treated myself to nothing short of the most fiddly piece of conversion work on my Chaos Knight so far: The actual cockpit.

Thanks to a bitz donation from fellow hobbyist Belphoebe that arrived earlier today, I was finally able to tackle this part of the model. And while it felt like I was getting nowhere for several hours, I am now really happy with the result. Let us take a closer look and peel back the layers of the onion, so to speak:

Here's the Knight's torso right now:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629834-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

@ Augustus B'Raass: As you can see, I also tidied up those skulls, replacing them with less clunky ones, mate ;)

 

Now let's remove the top hatch:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629835-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

Why look, it's Baron Harrowthorne!

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629836-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

As you can see, the Baron is perfectly visible through the open hatch -- just as planned!

Now let's remove that carapace plate:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629837-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

In front: Harrowthorne in his completely scratchbuilt cockpit. And in the back: The Knight's engine block.

Now let me tell you one thing: The hollow interior of the Knight may seem huge at first glance, but if you're endeavouring to add both a pilot and engine, you'll find yourself running out of room very quickly! Figuring out where to put what was probably one of the most difficult things about this conversion!

Another look from the front:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629838-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

As you can see, Harrowthorne fits in rather nicely -- although it is a slightly tight fit

Now let's take at all the warts below the hood:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629839-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

The cockpit itself was mainly constructed from Land Raider parts: The floor is a shaved down Land Raider turret hatch, while the view screens came from one of the inside panels from the same kit. The cockpit's back wall was made from plasticard, and a couple of additional bitz were used to blend in the seams of the conversion.

The engine block is a cut down Land Raider engine. As you can see, the engine compartment is mostly hollow, except for a lonely support strut made from leftover sprue...

This all looks so nice and tidy now (at least for my usual, sloppy standard, but figuring out a configuration that worked almost drove me up the wall!

Here's a look from a different perspective:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629840-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629841-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

I've left the Baron himself removable for now, both in order to have an easier time painting him and to be able to take him out and glance lovingly at the model, every now and then ;) Here's the cockpit without him:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/7/14/629842-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Knight%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Harrowthorne%2C%20Imperial%20Knight.JPG

A piece of sprue was glued to the floor to help position the Baron. Etched brass grating from the 40k basing set was used to detail the cockpit's floor.

Now this part of the model was really a pain in the behind to get right, but having finished this also fills me with a real sense of achievement. I'll gladly admit that I am standing on the shoulders of giants here, though: I'd never have been able to build this without taking inspiration from projects like Nicorex' Black Templar Knight, Spamus's wonderful Knight cockpit and Jeromgb's cockpit (which I just lifted wholesale for my own version.

So yeah, any and all C&C welcome! Let me know what you think! :)

[Montuhotep]

Well, damn.

[ElDuderino]

Well that's a nice cockpit! I might be crazy but my favorite part is the grated floor. Those little, barely visible things are what makes a project go from awesome to double-plus-awesome