Jolemai Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 You're always so negative these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I'm just being realistic ;) 3 twinlinked, S6AP2 blasts will do a number on those termies no matter what they cost, don't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 ugh... don't remind me. I'm suppose to face off against Eldar tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da emprah Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think terminators for the most part are fairly reasonable, I think sanguinary guard should be our beast cc unit, and they really need updating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I would rather have sanguinary guard be huffed like allow them to be at least 10 or a 5+ invulnerable save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da emprah Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I would rather have sanguinary guard be huffed like allow them to be at least 10 or a 5+ invulnerable save I think all units shooting at them should be forced to take a blind test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 ^ With a negative modifier to the blind test if you've painted your Sang Guard with Vallejo Liquid Gold. Shiny ! ;) Would a drop to 25pts and 5++ make Sang Guard playable ? They'd still struggle versus dedicated assault units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I can really see how they could feasibly change the Sanguinary Guard. Giving them a 5++ would make little sense, unless it was a squad-wide purchasable upgrade for the (for example) standard bearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm kind of partial to the whole "Blind Test" thing for the Sanguinary Guard. But then again I am still a bit of a fan of the current death mask mechanic. I do wish they were cheaper to use however. Fear also seems like a good fit with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da emprah Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 the reason i thought enemies taking blind test against them would be good, is that it fits perfectly in game (eg increases survivabilty, as sort of a substitute for an invul), and it fits in fluff (the light of the angel warriors blinds the enemies of the emperor) they also need better weapons, relic blades maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathstrider Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think we'll get FC as a chapter tactics equivalent. I don't think that we'll get a jump pack speed increase or use in both phases... both because raven guard get it, and because at the rate they'd be giving out that rule they'd basically be admitting the basic jump pack rules don't work. I'd be fine with that - I prefer the Descent of Angels use of Jump packs. To make that more viable, I'd like to see the existing rule replaced by something like "can move on deepstrike" - it's functionally not too much different to the current rule (gives probably better final position, but increases chances of a mishap). That would make deepstrike at least viable on it's own merits, and reduce (but not negate) interceptor weapons. I'd also really hope that Vanguard still get to charge into CC on deepstrike, but I'm not holding out hope.... Oh, and if they change anything - can they remove master crafted on Sanguinary Guard? Having to roll each model's attack individually is really annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd much prefer the Raven Guard's jump pack rule, it's much more useful for assaulting. DoA as it stands benefits shooting units more. As you say though Pathstrider, it's unlikely BA will get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Special rule: The Fast and the Furious Blood Angel models equipped with a jump pack and attempt to overcharge their jump packs in the movement phase. The unit moves and extra D6 inches and suffers dangerous terrain checks. In addition, the models gains furious charge until end of turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da emprah Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Special rule: The Fast and the Furious Blood Angel models equipped with a jump pack and attempt to overcharge their jump packs in the movement phase. The unit moves and extra D6 inches and suffers dangerous terrain checks. In addition, the models gains furious charge until end of turn. new character sergeant: vin diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 You mean, Vinus Dieselius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da emprah Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 You mean, Vinus Dieselius? may substitute all attacks for a strength 10 ap 1 flying headbutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenderDead Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I am a fan of our fast vindicators, I would like to see them go down in points but thats hopeful thinking since they have the fast profile. I also agree with most on here, that our points need to be more in line with other books. I would love to see a couple new units, and thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 You mean, Vinus Dieselius? wolf Pack I think I just found your newest conversion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It seems I have an affinity for bald action actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine Eternal Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2014/01/update-rules-coming-alongside-box-set.html"In September there'll be a new Campaign featuring 1 imperial and 1 non imperial army which astute readers will be able to guess at because you already rumoured about it, just not correctly."So there was a previous rumor going around which I'm guessing this source is referring to the snap fit BA and Necron models seen. With Imperial Knights in March, and IG in April, possibilities of BA and Orks seem pretty plausible perhaps if you take the Necrons out of the equation for another Armageddon campaign. GW always seems to include a SM army in their box sets for obvious selling reasons. Keeping my fingers crossed for this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t4play Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 BA & Orks that would be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Bols has the BA/Ork box set rumour up for September, suggesting Ork codex before and BA codex after. I'm still sceptical about the updated 6th ed rules, and perhaps more sceptical of a new starter set. Surely GW will want to maximise profits from Dark Vengeance? Unless it's selling badly I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Only interested if it has a cardboard Ork Dreadnought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't afford both a new 40k AND new BA codex this year :(Can only afford $100 for the codex + whatever new kit I can buy for $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 it seems unlikely that the boxed set would be quite so one sided tbh... much as I really want this to be true (will harken back to 2e, which I just barely missed (I got into the hobby at the age of 9 and the 3rd ed book was out not so long after) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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