Acebaur Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Thanks for the tips MM. As for the bracelet, it doesn't need to be huge so I'll see what I can do. As an alternative, some of the bolt pistols on our Sword Brethren kit have the chain attached directly to the gloves so that might be an option too. On to my next quandary, the EC model has a nub on his right thigh where the original BP was supposed to fit. I got him second hand so that piece is long gone. I had originally used one of the Templar BP bitz but they are curved to fit flush which they don't against the nub. I could drill the holster to fit better but I think it looks clunky no matter what, so what do you guys think of putting a lantern there instead? Here's a test shot http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/Emperors%20Champion/20151023_095026_zpsya4ofo0a.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4204979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Thanks guys for the compliment! I'm at Gencon and found a bitz booth and scored this guy for 8 bucks! http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20150801_170514_zpsmb3axmnq.jpg Looks familiar! Lol. Missing his sweat combo melta tho... And I am pretty sure firepower is right, he was the first Templar mini I saw, he was free with a big enough of a mail order purchase back when the Armageddon codex came out... I just don't remember who was first, him or the emperors champion that ace is using here for his conversion... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4204987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Definitely not the EC I am using for my conversion. He is the current EC model, though he has been out for a while. But he's not as old as this guy(who I got from a friend at my LGS already painted) who was the original EC model. I do believe that that one does pre-date axe guy. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20151023_125908-1_zpsxzl6omcd.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Definitely not the EC I am using for my conversion. He is the current EC model, though he has been out for a while. But he's not as old as this guy(who I got from a friend at my LGS already painted) who was the original EC model. I do believe that that one does pre-date axe guy. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20151023_125908-1_zpsxzl6omcd.jpg Didn't know when that guy came out. Thought he was the second one and the other was first... So Then that one is first then axe Marshall, then the current EC model was third maybe, tho the lrc (with metal ac and hb) came out with the Armageddon codex to... Hmm... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I've always found those lanterns to be oddly clunky, and have only used I think 1 in my first batch of Templars. Having the ring but without anything to connect to makes it feel kinda silly. I'm not sure simply looping it around the thigh goiter will work, although its connection is covered by the sword in that pic. Have you considered simply shaving the bump off of his leg? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I always assumed they were just maglocked to the armor :p As for cutting it off, it's possible but I probably should have done that before gluing the arm in place. I was at that time still planning to use the BP. Now I don't think I'd risk sanding off something I didn't want to :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I like the lanterns ... but not there ... it seems like an unlikely place to have a lantern. Chain on the sword arm ... maybe use some of that chain to chain the lantern to his left arm (kinda like HM Helbrecht) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Especially good since it's a clenched fist... That might actually make him to much like helbrech... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Dude, that champion is looking pretty sweet. If we want to talk chains, I like the wrapped look without the bracelet myself. To me (and this is just me talking) the bracket says "quick detach in case of an emergency." Binding that bastard with chains until it's not coming off before his arm seems like a much more Templar course of action. If you've ever heard the Templar audio drama, the intro of Sigismund's duel with Jubai Khan supports the "wrap it" idea too ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 I like the lanterns ... but not there ... it seems like an unlikely place to have a lantern. Why? It's not like they need it to see, it's purely symbolic Dude, that champion is looking pretty sweet. If we want to talk chains, I like the wrapped look without the bracelet myself. To me (and this is just me talking) the bracket says "quick detach in case of an emergency." Binding that bastard with chains until it's not coming off before his arm seems like a much more Templar course of action. If you've ever heard the Templar audio drama, the intro of Sigismund's duel with Jubai Khan supports the "wrap it" idea too Yeah, that's not a bad idea either. I probably wouldn't do it for normal guys, but the EC is different and while the chains are usually symbolic, the EC himself is a symbol. "Bound until death" Would also probably work for attaching it directly to his glove too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4205810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Ok so devotion chain is attached. I decided to go with attaching it directly to his glove via a link of chain cut in half(which let me tell you was a :cuss to get right). Then I took a page from the new Sigismund model and added a ring to the pommel of the sword and put another half link there too. That one doesn't actually connect to the rest of the chain(glued on the back) but you can't really tell (I hope) unless you look underneath the model. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/Emperors%20Champion/20151026_140902_zpssfkjhe3u.jpg Then I also solved the lantern problem and added a ring for it to hang from. I think I will go back and do this to my biker chaplain as well since it came out wonderfully. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/Emperors%20Champion/20151026_141347_zps3oaoj3hd.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The lantern looks a good deal better, and the ring on the pommel of the sword is a nice touch. I'm not sold on the chain linking into the hand, but it's set in stone steel now. Gotta love doing all that fiddly chain work, huh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Word. I can't undersell how much Sigismund reborn should have a chain on the most important weapon on the imperial armory. Makes one wonder why the model doesn't come with one :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Word. I can't undersell how much Sigismund reborn should have a chain on the most important weapon on the imperial armory. Makes one wonder why the model doesn't come with one I'll take that as you like my conversion then ;) :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Word. I can't undersell how much Sigismund reborn should have a chain on the most important weapon on the imperial armory. Makes one wonder why the model doesn't come with one I refuse to accept that Sigismund could possibly have gone through the Siege of Terra without strangling at least one heretic with his chains. Could possibly count as a Power Fist attack on the table top. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 So here's the next question. I've been thinking about how I'm going to paint his sword. Thus far I've been using a modified version of HLVW's power weapon technique and I've decided I'm going to color code them a bit. Most everything will be blue but to differentiate the Relic Blades from regular swords they will be purple I think. The question is, what should I do with the Black Sword? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I did mine as black with blue highlights. That turned out pretty well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4207923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I like a very very black-wash dark metal, with faint blue edge highlights. But that's a pretty subtle 'naked blade' kinda thing, and not nearly as pretty as the big'n'bold glowy power weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4208300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The question is, what should I do with the Black Sword? I would paint it black, but that's just me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4208824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I went with the graphite black texture for the actual blade, while the inside had gold and the letters glowing blue... got the inspiration from someone in the forum as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4208881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 The question is, what should I do with the Black Sword? I would paint it black, but that's just me. Got a comedian in here ;) I meant what should do about painting a power field on it? Should it have one, or just be the black blade? If it should have one, should it be a different color to my other power swords/relic blades? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4209722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Are the black swords power weapons? I always thought they were just a badass super alloy or some such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4209731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Are the black swords power weapons? I always thought they were just a badass super alloy or some such. Both. B) My old EC has just a tinge of deep purple on the edges, and only at one tip and one base on each side. Overall, the effect came out too subtle to see without a real close look, but going any brighter would water down the 'black' emphasis considerably, unless you could get the shade just right. However, you could try the same thing with blues, maybe. I've seen a number of people sneak gold into the crevices/lettering. Trouble is, I tend to see descriptions of the sword as being black on black, with a black undercoat over black alloy. Which makes it kinda hard to paint in total adherence to the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4209734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Are the black swords power weapons? I always thought they were just a badass super alloy or some such. It used to be. Apparently now it's description is "Each Black Sword is a masterpiece of jet-black solarite with an edge that can shear adamantium" So apparently it doesn't need a power field because it's so sharp it doesn't matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4209739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 So I'm thinking I'm just going to use the BT backpack for the champ. I don't use it often on my guys and I don't really have another one that is fitting for him. Or is it overdone and I should go with a regular one off the new Tac box? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/288402-the-jericho-crusade-sword-brethren-cometh/page/14/#findComment-4212379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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