Unknown Legionnaire Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 ... list I just ran against Dark Eldar and it hammered hard. Lol, that's just unfair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4326426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 This is the most ruthless list I can come up with at 2k It was a little less bad before then Slips told me it would probably be a bit too much for the event then I tried to tone it down but hit roadblock after roadblock so I decided to hell with it im going to make it worse and this is my end result +++ Defend Wall (2000pts) +++++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (2000pts) +++ HQ (230pts) +Sigismund (230pts)Master of the Legion [Pride of the Legion]+ Troops (845pts) +Legion Terminator Squad (560pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 5x Legion Terminators, 2x Lightning Claw, 2x Power Fist]Legion Spartan Assault Tank [Dozer Blade, Flare Shield]Legion Terminator Sergeant [Chainfist]Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (285pts) [2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Sniper]Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour]+ Heavy Support (555pts) +Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (180pts) [Dozer Blade, Lascannons]Legion Sicaran Battle Tank (180pts) [Dozer Blade, Lascannons]Sicaran Venator Tank Destroyer (195pts) [Dozer Blade]+ Legion +Legion Astartes [Loyalist, VII: Imperial Fists]+ Lord of War (370pts) +War Machine Detachment (370pts)Legion Typhon Heavy Siege Tank [Armoured Ceramite] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It'll wreck face for sure, but don't you think it's a little.. Boring? Just a personal opinion for sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nah , Im a simple man to please , I like my Tanks of the 775th ( After reading Tallaran Ironclad tank battles have been a thing that really gets me going) , I like the idea of Sigismund and Scary dudes charging out of a tough transport and butchering the enemy in close combat and uh .... VETS HITTING ON 2s WOUNDING ON 4s BOYS ! WITH DOUBLE HEAVY BOLTERS! I call it squad Slipstreams The list speaks to the things that get me hype as a player and the sort of things I write my fluff around. Despite also being efficient Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Deployment: Sicaran, Sicaran, Sicaran, Typhon Siege Tank ... Spartan ... and so forth. Opponent: Yawns, blinks, decides not to invest to much dedication into this game before it has even started, goes to fetch some coffee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Unless they follow the hesh school of thought and then everything gets drowned in Grav and dies a slow death. Im not terribly worried about the above scenario either considering were paying 20 dollars to play at the event in question Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Dude as long as you enjoy it, then go for it! I wouldn't be bored playing against that army as it would be a good Armour based Challenge. Zopha 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 There's more than one way to skin an astartes! No interceptor, no Anti Air, Sicarans with no Armoured Ceramite, definitely dealable. However I'd wanna go full world of tanks Vs that list and take the Predator Row :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 There's more than one way to skin an astartes! No interceptor, no Anti Air, Sicarans with no Armoured Ceramite, definitely dealable. However I'd wanna go full world of tanks Vs that list and take the Predator Row I know my friend Dave might very well do that with his iron hands , tho he also really wants to take Ferrus so he has a rough decision ahead of him. Yea 2k is a tight fit fer points Ill just fire blindly into the sky and pray XD helterskelter 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Has anybody had some success with the Stone Gauntlet rite of war. Breachers for compulsory troops seems a bit meh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I have just started to use it. And I think it will perform very well. I think of t as ground capture. Set some back line defence and hold that line. Send the Breachers midfield and hold that line. Send a Hammer forward and trounce their line. It should be very very durable. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthanor Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 @Bladewolf: could you swap the cataphracti for tartar us so they can sweep with Siggy? Preventing that unit from sweeping advancing is a bit unfortunate.. (and maybe some storm shield, because we can!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 @Bladewolf: could you swap the cataphracti for tartar us so they can sweep with Siggy? Preventing that unit from sweeping advancing is a bit unfortunate.. (and maybe some storm shield, because we can!) Is that a black Templar I see? Glorious we have more for the heresy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4327956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Has anybody had some success with the Stone Gauntlet rite of war. Breachers for compulsory troops seems a bit meh. Running a 3K Stone Gauntlet next month in a grudge match against my mate with Death Guard. He will be fielding 73 Terminators, I'll be fielding 40 Breacher, 20 Warders and 20 Terminators, all of my squads will be toughness 5 with Feel No Pain, so we shall see how it all goes. Zopha 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 @Bladewolf: could you swap the cataphracti for tartar us so they can sweep with Siggy? Preventing that unit from sweeping advancing is a bit unfortunate.. (and maybe some storm shield, because we can!) I wish I could but even dropping the squad down to 5 would still leave me 65 points over with TH /SS set up @Bladewolf: could you swap the cataphracti for tartar us so they can sweep with Siggy? Preventing that unit from sweeping advancing is a bit unfortunate.. (and maybe some storm shield, because we can!) Is that a black Templar I see? Glorious we have more for the heresy! ALL OF THE TEMPLARS Has anybody had some success with the Stone Gauntlet rite of war. Breachers for compulsory troops seems a bit meh. Running a 3K Stone Gauntlet next month in a grudge match against my mate with Death Guard. He will be fielding 73 Terminators, I'll be fielding 40 Breacher, 20 Warders and 20 Terminators, all of my squads will be toughness 5 with Feel No Pain, so we shall see how it all goes. Stone Gauntlet Ive run several times and found it ...less than great breachers are really expensive for what they do Warders might be worth a look with the new buff tho I wish you all the luck in the world in yer 3k Revenge game , just keep in mind if yer boy runs the reaping yer probably looking at a lot of rad grenades making yer boys t4 again , better than 3 I reckon but still I dunno if its worth the points investment required unless you just are really hype for breachers not to mention that bonus of his only really helps in close combat so youll get to dance all over him at the mid range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Just back from my Apoc Game. My two Warder Squads under Stone Gauntlet (separate to the rest of my list 'cuz thats how we decided for it to go) tanked an inordinate amount of dakka and CC from 2+ Terror Squads and Raptor Squads and only a single squad was dead after 6 Turns. Edited March 7, 2016 by Slipstreams BLACK BLΠFLY and Lord Blackwood 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Now that's impressive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 The +1WS when charged helped a lot especially when up against Terror Squads Preferred Enemy or WS5 Raptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 So they are basically +1 BS - +1 WS - +1 T ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yes, when Charged thats pretty much it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 was this is skirmish at the border event where you were fielding a 6k list tho ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Stone gauntlet us deceptive I think. It seems unwieldy on paper and restrictive, but if you stick to your guns you have a terrifyingly stoic list that isn't going to budge for anyone or anything. You'll be out numbered but the number of shots that bounce off will speak for themselves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yeah man that's what I am expecting. Total solid immovable object. With the spear thrust of terminators in a Spartan to claim any kill points needed. And a leviathan and two Contemptors. But the backfield firepower will help take out shooty threats. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 was this is skirmish at the border event where you were fielding a 6k list tho ? Yeah, but the thing is the whole of Night Lords 6k army was pretty much in-and-around our deployment zone turn 1 and onwards. That the Phalanx Warders killed 4 terror squads and something else between them and only losing one 10 man squad and 4 marines from the other one over 6 turns? Pretty cool. They were far from the actual objectives though due to how things were set up so their actual impact was pretty inconsequential but they tanked a lot of stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Anybody looked into Breachers and a Mastodon battle bus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/292535-hh10-imperial-fists-tactics/page/19/#findComment-4328821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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