Demon2027 Iron Tenth - Return of the Medusan Son

[Daemon2027]

Thanks, I might try a darker red on my next mini.

 

I have almost finished my first tac marine, decided to drop the bigger using, and concentrate on smaller conversions and painting. However, something seems a bit odd with this guy. Not sure if it's the pose not working, or maybe I am used to taller marines. The idea was that he is using his side arm to finish off injured enemies.

 

Please ignore the messy green stuff, needs to be smoothed out.

 

 

So far experiments with carving runes onto armour, either directly, or in GS, have gone badly so I am leaving that for now. Is a shame as I had a great idea for a chaplain, so going yo have to alter what I was going to do.

[Teetengee]

I think the head angle is what is making it look off, perhaps down and to the right more?

[Daemon2027]

I think the head angle is what is making it look off, perhaps down and to the right more?

Something like this:

 

Started work on a chaplain:

Now he needs a lot of work done, but this is the basic shape. I had wanted to cover the armour in runes like Erebus, but I just couldn't get i right, so not sure what to do to Word Bearer him up a bit. Would parchment and candles be enough?

[Teetengee]

Sorry, I was thinking right as I look at the model, not from the model's perspective, but yes that looks a little better.

 

For the other guy, parchment and candles would probably be enough, but I agree that he would look really good with some runes, you may want try just one more time before giving up on them.

[Bob Hunk]

 

Started work on a chaplain:

 

Now he needs a lot of work done, but this is the basic shape. I had wanted to cover the armour in runes like Erebus, but I just couldn't get i right, so not sure what to do to Word Bearer him up a bit. Would parchment and candles be enough?

 

Nice! B) Yes, how about some flowing parchment from his arms and a circle of candles around him on his base?

[Daemon2027]

The flowing parchment is a very good idea. I will try the runes again, as i really imagine him with runes all over his armour.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Huh - reminds me loads of some lineart I did for a DIY chapter that's currently on hold - definately paint the pteruges as purity seals, maybe paint some particularly heretical words in latin?

here's the pic just in case you're interested:

[ephrael]

I agree that the flowing parchment would be a nice addition to your WB.  I also think that runes and other esoteric devices would look great carved into the rest of the armor plates like the Ashen Circle models.  I was thinking of doing the same for my slowly growing WB collection.  Unfortunately I don't have any ideas on how to carve them into the resin and match the torsos and helmets from FW.  Maybe some type of wood or metal carving tools or a fine carving bit for a Dremel Tool?  Please don't give up your attempts at the runes yet.  I'm planning on molding and casting the parts to go along with the torsos and helmets if I can make some good looking "masters."

[Daemon2027]

I am still thinking about how best to carve the runes, a dremel may be the best way yo go about it.

 

Stepping back from the Word Bearers a second, I recently put together a Raven Guard of the Nomad Predatory fleets. The inspiration came from BCK's Crimson Sons. The Raven Guard have always been one of my favourite legions/chapters, and the Nomad Predatory fleet background allows me to model them in a unique way.

[Kizzdougs]

You just can't stick to one project can you...

Great looking RG! The old skool lighting claws are so sweet and look really brutal when combined with the MkIII. Perfect for a Predatory Fleet. The greenstuff looks good too.

Looking forward to some more.

[Daemon2027]

Yep its a problem. I think I am just struggling to find a project that really grabs me. The RG are the 'legion that suits my mentality' though, and I like the background of the nomad pred fleets and the freedom given in what units they take. They are sort of half Raven Guard, half Night Lords which is cool.

[Daemon2027]

Right so painting of the Dark Furry wasn't going well. My initial idea was good but I let my doubts over ride me when I should have gone with my instinct and I was getting to the point of ruining model. So, after a chats with my friend facmanpob, I threw together a test model out of random bits. It's not a model for the army so I can test on it. Here is the black it have achieved, I'm not sure on the highlight. It may be hard to tell but part is silver, which I like for the rough look, and part is grey which looks more stealthy. Which looks better, and any other tips on highlighting would be brilliant.

 

[Daemon2027]

Hmmmm.... Starting to have doubts on the Raven Guard, sort of thinking I should have stuck with the Iron Hands. They fit the look I like still, mark III brutal, could even do a recon Order. Also have a lot of cool models and rules already, and I have a better handle on the painting? Any thoughts oh wise sages of the B&C?

[Terimus]

I think that sticking with the IH would be beneficial for both the painting time and the wallet Lot of options to work with in the Iron Hands, tons of room for fun conversions

[Daemon2027]

Hmmm....well the cheapest would be to return to my World Eaters. In fact, just maybe...

[Psy-Crow]

As a Raven Guard fan, i'd say work on what keeps you interested, but at the same time try finish what you started. 

 

I started on RG, but after 10 tac marines and 10 scouts, not only was all that black beating me down, but as someone who only paints, painting the same thing wasn't helping me. Now i've started the system of one thing for my RG army, and one thing for me just for fun, but making sure the fun miniature uses a technique that will be useful for my RG.

 

Great work here, and look forward to seeing more.

[Daemon2027]

Ok, so still jumping around the Legions. Trying to figure out the one that suits me has left me with possibles, Raven Guard, Night Lords and Alpha Legion. I have decided that I will work on all three in some form.

 

Background wise I really like the idea of the rogue elements of a Legion, banished to the edge of the galaxy, with the Crimson Sons and the Nomad Predation fleets. I see this as a small expedition fleet, the 908th expedition fleet to be precise, led by a Rogue trader, and escorted by the Raven Guard, some Crimson Son Night Lords who had not returned to the Legion with the other members, and backed up by a small Mechanicum exploratory force, and Cossack style Imperial Army. I also see this as the perfect place for an Alpha Legion kill team, with hidden orders.

 

So onto models, here's another test for the Raven Guard, I quite like the way it works, but need to think on the ash markings.

And a Night Lord, but I my rethink the scheme.

 

Onto something else, the leader of my Crimson Sons detachment, not sure on the head

(Need to work on the middle ones helm a little more)

Thoughts?

[Olis]

Crimson Sons, you say? The first one. It looks more brutalist. With the addition of blood streams/tears it would look great.

[BeatTheBeat]

That Chaplain is the bee's knees. Love the latest offerings from the other Legions as well, the Crimson Sons leader in particular. Voting for head number one by the way, looks damn brutal! Which kit is it from?

Cheers,
BTB

[Daemon2027]

Thanks guys, I am leaning towards the first head. Have started to add a few more details, a few skulls on a chain to represent a Trophy of Judgment, something I don't want to overdo, and an Iron Halo.

 

Ok so have been building the idea on my head:

 

The 908th Expeditionary Fleet is going to be a frontier fleet, set during the late crusade/early heresy. It's going to mainly be full of outcasts and adventurer types, and those who are not really part of the new Imperium.

 

So the forces in question, taking inspiration from Massacre and Extermination (and of course tithe likes of BCK and Heathens) will be led by a Rogue Trader, who I plan to make, along with some of his crew, and other associates, such as outrider scouts, merchants, bounty hunters, etc. there will be an Imperial Army representation, I sort see a Cossack (the late Russian Empire military class, not the Slavic clan) style theme, 2nd sons of Terran nobles, who have turned to the Army. There will be some Mechanicum, and Magos Explorator and his bodyguard.

 

And there will be Legions. Mainly the VIIIth Crimson Sons, and XIX Pale Nomads, both these operated away from their main Legion, and kept to their Terran roots. The Night Lords will form a heavy company (breachers, Terror Squads, Armour and Artillery), while the Raven Guard will take on on a more familiar roles of recon and fast attack, but not without their own shock troops such as the Deliverers. I hope both will be playable armies in their own rite eventually. I also plan to include an Alpha Legion kill team, under the premise of fleet protection, but will obviously have their own orders and agenda. I may also try to include the Word Bearer Chaplain I started to build, maybe with some Ashen Circle, spreaders of the Imperial Truth (or not), but that would leave me very traitor heavy. Maybe a Space Wolf watch pack to even it out. Or possibly a contingent of Imperial Praetorians, Custodes, Sisters of Silence, and some Imperial Fists, who have come to see where their allegiance lies.

 

Ahhhh so many ideas....

[Hyaenidae]

So, I like the idea of a Headhunter squad of Alpha Legion attached to your fleet, without a doubt. But, may I make a suggestion? 

 

DON'T have them have a separate agenda. Leave them with their Terran roots as well. The last of the Ghost Legion, cut off from the wider Imperium, just as their cousins of the 903rd. Dedicated crash teams, door-kickers, the edge of poison on the blade of the Pale Nomads. Zero surgical alteration, the wars of the last 300+ years written on their faces. They are the first to hear of the Heresy, contacted by the XX Legion, and (drumroll...) they are horrified. They tell their Legion that they have no problem with ending the 903rd, but in reality, they raise the alarm to their brothers of the VIII and XIX immediately, and use the information the Alpha Legion is feeding them to wage war from the shadows, in Terra's name.

 

Meow?

[Daemon2027]

Yeah that's a good idea, I was thinking about the Ghost Legion when looking at the Alpha Legion stuff. I like the way your brain works heathens. Shame your a filthy traitor.

 

Being reworking the Night Lord, re did the cape, made it more impressive, and tried another head.

Now, he is undeniably a Night Lord and fairly cool but I am wondering might have gone to far. But with some blood poring out the eyes it could work, and it could represent trophies of judgment. And I had a background idea involving the Night Children seeing themselves as daemons in the dark (like how Uhtred in the Warrior Chronicles saw him self as a shapeshifter stalking the dark), so this helm could fit.

Next is the first of the Regents (I like that as a title) bodyguard, who could also double as a Legions Champion.

[Hyaenidae]

Traitor to the Emperor? Yes, undoubtedly. Traitor to the Imperium? Never.  ;)

 

Anyhow, I love the look on the Crimson Son (can't bring myself to call him a Night Lord, lol), though I'm not sure about the winged helm either. Too Nostromo-y. Personally, I would stick with a bare faceplate and bloody eyes. It's imposing on it's own. But, to each their own, brother.

 

The Regent is pretty boss, dude.

 

Keep it up!  

[Daemon2027]

Yeah I am sort of with you there. It was worth a look though, but it's not exactly what I had in mind. I will save them for the Terror squad.

[Daemon2027]

Ok, a slightly more normal helm, think it needs something though.