Just4uCupCake Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The rules can be found in the Crusade armies red book Just how many points are you looking at running? Do you have community 30k players? Usually, 2000 points is the norm for a medium sized game, though I'd recommend 2500 to 3000 points for the best feel and unit redundancies. From there, I'd find what you can stick in a list because 30k stuff is pretty points and money heavy. 3,000-5,000 My buddy plays alpha legion but besides that our local FLGS only has one heresy player ( two now including me) but we mix it up and play against orcs and necrons and grey knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4169248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billpeacock Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 i was thinking of starting a 2000point world eaters army, not really sure where to start though, i know i want to have Khârn leading it, but other than that I'm a tad lost as to how to build a reasonably melee orientated army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4173285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 If it's melee ye be a wantin', then it's 20-man despoiler/true grit blobs ye be needin'. Add in an apothecary or two, sprinkle in a beatstick of your preference. Shake well. Pour into your opponent's deployment zone. Add support as needed. Fenbain and Just4uCupCake 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4173661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 If I regret anything on my deathbed, it'll be that I stopped doing the World Eaters. I mean I love my 1st and XVth legion...but in the XIIth, you could just let it all hang out and let your inner aggro rpg character :D Maybe once I get more monies I'll come back to the fold. It's just too damn funny to assault with a kajillion chainaxe swingers. Just4uCupCake and Flint13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4173830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Forget true grit.....Drop the bolter, they are not necessary for close combat :-) Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4173972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 just too damn funny to assault with a kajillion chainaxe swingers. Tell me about it. I am consistently impressed how much work 4 chainaxe attacks per Astartes does. Doubly so (literally) if you're running Berzerker Assault. I've managed to kill small terminator squads and single Castellax (even a couple carniifex) before they get to swing just through weight of attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 all those dice make me hot! I don't run bezerker, but a Chaplin is awesome in the unit to give them all that re-roll and fearless. Now you have 80 attacks with re-rolls in the first round of combat. :cuss yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 There's no reason to drop the Bolter as the axe is free... WolfOfHorus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 There's no reason to drop the Bolter as the axe is free...Completely agree, makes Tacticals for WE very good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yup. They get free true-grit so long as its an axe! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Hmm I thought that ruling was still up in the air. I thought you had to swap out a chainsword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfHorus Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Nope, it's does not mention the need for swapping, merely says it's free. But you have to model it which is quite expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It says if you have access to a chain sword you can instead get an axe for free. The argument is over what access means, some say you don't have access until you pay, I'd ask if you have access to public transportation in your area to show that access doesn't depend on ownership Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Hey hey, trim that old argument down now. We all know that almost every World Eater will tell you the chainaxe is free and almost every other legion player will argue you need to pay 2pts per model to get a chainsword first. It's a kind of "politely discuss with opponent" sort of issue. No need to start that up again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Hey hey, trim that old argument down now. We all know that almost every World Eater will tell you the chainaxe is free and almost every other legion player will argue you need to pay 2pts per model to get a chainsword first. It's a kind of "politely discuss with opponent" sort of issue. No need to start that up again. Yeah especially when it matters against non legion targets that have 4+ saves or worse in abundance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norngahl Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 As an enemy- grant your opponent the free axe. We all like to read rules in our favour. If a world eater plays like one and fields a fluffy horde coming at you, grant him those goddam free axes in return until its faqed by FW. Reward some fluff :) Fenbain and Flint13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yeah that discussion is boring as hell now. Let's just move on please Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) *Apologizes to the Lady Bro in advance* Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm lost. The first five pages of this thread are mostly a discussion about whether or not to pay the 40 points for True Grit or just use despoilers. Where did the idea that it was free ever come up in discussion? Yeah, if they're despoilers (bp and ccw) they can switch from the chainsword to the axe for free. Or if they've paid the 2 points per model they can get true grit (bolter and pistol and ccw), and they can switch to the axe for free. The level of confusion coming from this corner of the interwebz is too damn high! To keep this from derailing the thread, can those who've hopped aboard the free train shoot me a PM explaining their views and the thought process behind it. Edited September 18, 2015 by LongGone Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4174536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Right, back to tactics. Angron, vets, land raider, out flank. Has anyone done it? Or are you better using rampagers for scout? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Youre better off using red butchers in a spartan for even more murder and survivability. But, if you cant, Vets are better than rampagers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
temneb Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 It's more the out flank vs scout that I'm driving at. Obviously Angron in an LR becomes a big chunk of points, is it preferable to have him closer to the enemy or off the board entirely? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Depends. If they can kill his ride instantly then youd want him to come in later so he doesnt get forced out of it and footslog thus getting shot to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Some of you may know that I've begun a World Eaters force. Up to this point, I've merely build a couple figs for the modeling and flavour aspect, but I need to build a vision of where I want this force to go if I want to avoid re-mortgaging my house on random cool factor models. Thus far, I am looking to build a Angel's Wrath style army, which I win dub in the most Khorny manner possible, "The Fast and The Ludicrous". I will be using older armour marks, tanks and vehicles if any at all. I do not worry about competitive play at all, I just play with cool toy soldiers. What I have so far : Praetor MKII Jump Command Squad MKII Assault Marine squad Working on : MKII Jump Destroyers Ideally, I would want to start adding complementing assets. What are your thoughts, dudes and dudettes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No Angels Wrath is complete without aerial support. Storm Eagles and Fire Raptors are always a good place to start. They're both effective and you don't require many of them to fill in points, so hopefully minimum remorgaging ^_^ Speeders are also another good option. They'd provide you a good amount of fast firepower. World Eaters can struggle with ranged anti-tank, and that gap can be easily filled by a few lascannon/multimelta speeders. Memento Of Prospero and Sheesh Mode 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ahh yes. I have 3 fire raptors for my iron hands forces, that could easily be recommissioned elsewhere ;) Who needs flyer support when you are cruising around in AV 14/15 lunch boxes? Speeders would definitely fit the bill for the theme, so kudos for that. What are you thoughts on Jetbikes and bikes in WE forces? I figure they do better than most with our legions set of rules, but bikes were always short range fire fight specialists to me. Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/294658-hh10-tactica-chainaxe-world-eaters/page/10/#findComment-4183585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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