ThatOneMarshal Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 A haemotrhope reactor, plasma obliterator and a void shield generator would be pretty awesome. Iron Warriros seem like a pretty fun army. Unforntutatley they do seem a bit immobile. Also COngratulations Warsmith Anzable! Warsmith Aznable and BubblesMcBub 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4583962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 A haemotrhope reactor, plasma obliterator and a void shield generator would be pretty awesome. Iron Warriros seem like a pretty fun army. Unforntutatley they do seem a bit immobile. Also COngratulations Warsmith Anzable! Wait can we still use the Plasma Obliterator???? It's rules wasn't in the Planetary Onslaught book with the updated fortificaitions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4583980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 what barrage and ordnance do we have? vindicators? ..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 what barrage and ordnance do we have? vindicators? ..... Just Vindicator. But I seem to rememeber there was a rumour a while back along side 1k Son that there was meant to be a artillery unit that the start of the year. If I can find it I'll try quote the rumour. Other than that we don't really have any Barrage weapons in our codex, not Armour 13 Lost & the Damned. I'm really looking forward to the supplement. I've had a few idea for fortification models since Aug, so maybe try get them sorted soon. Then I'm really looking forward trying the new supplement out that Throne of Skulls that Warhammer World next year :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 i don't even know where to start with fortifications. never played with/against them i gave up gunline style quite early on in favour of a rush list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Isn't the defiler's battle canon ordnance? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 i don't even know where to start with fortifications. never played with/against them i gave up gunline style quite early on in favour of a rush list I've got a few idea & hope to try get something sorted out during the holidays or with any Christmas money. For me it just more something to have & because I'm going to try sort out my gaming table that home try get more games of 40k & other Games Workshop games. Yes I prefer mobile/tank heavy armies. Never really been to keen on hoards & I personal find gun line armies bit dull. So has anyone got any hobby plans on what they will be adding to there Iron Warriors when Traitor Legion release? Right now I've got the following try get ready for Throne of Skulls, want to use the new supplement for the event. - Dreadnought convert - Unit of Havocs to convert - Possible a new HQ with the relic & wargear were getting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 convert more obliterators. lots of them and another warpsmith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Uveron Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I get why we get fortifications assigned to us as one of our things, but I am much more interested in tearing down fortifications with my Iron Warriors. Give me tanks and robots and big guns, and the room to move and shoot with them. Yes and one of the best ways to get close to opposing fortifications is with trenchlines... aka your own fortifications. I mean its how they do it in Storm of Iron! which is as close to the codex:Ironwarriors we have =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Isn't the defiler's battle canon ordnance? Yes it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I've got lord in cataphractii armour 5 cataphractii terminators 10 maybe 20 mk3s And I'm thinking of getting a squad of mk4s and buying heavy weapons to make them havocs Then I'm thinking fortifications and hopefully by that time whatever artillery unit will be out. The army will suck in 40k but dam will it be fluffy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 All* will fear the return of tank hunting autocannon havocs. *AV14 excluded. ranman8 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4584770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) With the wonderful new MK III Marines I have expanded my small force of 30K Iron Warriors into a much larger battalion. I can see these models being used instead of my older collection of Chaos Marines, they are much more detailed. WIP MK III and MK II Tacticals MK III Volkite Heavy support squad A Lord of War, Stormsword super heavy Laser Vindicators! Group shot of infantry Plenty more work to be done, Tartaros, Cataphractii and Tyrant Terminators, a Medusa plus a few other bits. Edited December 7, 2016 by Perry Warsmith Aznable, Prot, Khornestar and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4585260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Lovely! And thanks to your picture I now also understood what etched brass is and how to use it! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4585982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 For the ordnance/barrage thing, I'm not sure this would make a "good" list, but you could spam the :cuss out of the 85 point AV14 automated battle cannons. 2 Per fortification slot. They fire automatically at the closest target, BS2, at the end of the shooting phase (before leadership tests). I know battle cannons aren't all that, but for 85 points and AV14 with 3 hull points AND twin-linked due to the Iron Warriors detachment bonus, that sounds sorta hilarious. Combine with an Ordnance Tyrant from IA:Vraks and some Earthshakers/Wyverns hidden behind the cannons and artillery will nuke them back to the stone age. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 So. Spammed Obliterator troops standing next to Haemotrope reactors, anyone? My thoughts are really drifting back to havocs. Heavy weapons of all stripes really benefit from this. Even 4x heavy bolter units are going to wreck things like av10 speeders, and stand a good chance of stripping HP from AV11 rhinos. Missile launchers become the pre eminent HP stripper. Lascannons will strip 2.5 ish HP from AV13 on average. 4x melta, 1 combi melta units in rhinos will be nice tank hunters. Daemon prince of Tzeentch with the new Fleshmetal armour, anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 How about autocannon havocs? Surely they would be awesome with tank hunter at stripping hps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Looking forward to the supplement. Looks like all of my 30k legions will be sort of viable with these new rules with minor changes. With my IW I will have to get used to not having apothecaries with my horde troops and will have to have the IA book for most of my vehicles and walkers but it should do ok. I don't play tournies so not really caring about competitiveness, just being able to use them with the right flavor is a massive plus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 For what I have left of my Iron Warriors I keep making these goofy 'fort' lists with Haemotrope reactors, and I wondered if those would work with the Forgefiends ? I have too many points wrapped up in Fortifications right now, but it looks fun on paper anyway. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn4k30r Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ok now that the leaks are confirmed, i have a question how we can have a deamon with Mark for lvl++psyker when we cant take units with marks? Why it says any Deamon of Tzeentch-Nurgle slaanesh they can choose from their blah blah when we cant take him with mark? am i right? Units cannot be upgraded to have any mark. it says... I am happy for Legion rules...but iam unhappy for our rules...everything except troops Oblits the Death guard does it better.... 5+ army wide FNP plus fearless (better FNP and Fearless no need of stupid fortification et.c... only stubborn....unless fortification in blah blah) Their Oblits are 5+fnp and 5T! ! And they got relentless..!! pff.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ok now that the leaks are confirmed, i have a question how we can have a deamon with Mark for lvl++psyker when we cant take units with marks? Why it says any Deamon of Tzeentch-Nurgle slaanesh they can choose from their blah blah when we cant take him with mark? am i right? Units cannot be upgraded to have any mark. it says... I am happy for Legion rules...but iam unhappy for our rules...everything except troops Oblits the Death guard does it better.... 5+ army wide FNP plus fearless (better FNP and Fearless no need of stupid fortification et.c... only stubborn....unless fortification in blah blah) Their Oblits are 5+fnp and 5T! ! And they got relentless..!! pff.. Seen this a few times in other places recently and th e answer is simple... Daemons including daemon princes are of a type, they are not marked. A Daemon Prince of nurglw is a Daemon of nurgle.. a chaos lord is marked for nurgle... Ie. Marks are for non daemons only. Prot and Sn4k30r 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn4k30r Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ok now that the leaks are confirmed, i have a question how we can have a deamon with Mark for lvl++psyker when we cant take units with marks? Why it says any Deamon of Tzeentch-Nurgle slaanesh they can choose from their blah blah when we cant take him with mark? am i right? Units cannot be upgraded to have any mark. it says... I am happy for Legion rules...but iam unhappy for our rules...everything except troops Oblits the Death guard does it better.... 5+ army wide FNP plus fearless (better FNP and Fearless no need of stupid fortification et.c... only stubborn....unless fortification in blah blah) Their Oblits are 5+fnp and 5T! ! And they got relentless..!! pff.. Seen this a few times in other places recently and th e answer is simple... Daemons including daemon princes are of a type, they are not marked. A Daemon Prince of nurglw is a Daemon of nurgle.. a chaos lord is marked for nurgle... Ie. Marks are for non daemons only. So i can take Deamon Prince with Mark of Nurgle? or not? i mean can i make a Deamon prince MoN Exoskeleton wings and psyker lvl 1-3? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ok now that the leaks are confirmed, i have a question how we can have a deamon with Mark for lvl++psyker when we cant take units with marks? Why it says any Deamon of Tzeentch-Nurgle slaanesh they can choose from their blah blah when we cant take him with mark? am i right? Units cannot be upgraded to have any mark. it says... I am happy for Legion rules...but iam unhappy for our rules...everything except troops Oblits the Death guard does it better.... 5+ army wide FNP plus fearless (better FNP and Fearless no need of stupid fortification et.c... only stubborn....unless fortification in blah blah) Their Oblits are 5+fnp and 5T! ! And they got relentless..!! pff.. Seen this a few times in other places recently and th e answer is simple... Daemons including daemon princes are of a type, they are not marked. A Daemon Prince of nurglw is a Daemon of nurgle.. a chaos lord is marked for nurgle... Ie. Marks are for non daemons only. So i can take Deamon Prince with Mark of Nurgle? or not? i mean can i make a Deamon prince MoN Exoskeleton wings and psyker lvl 1-3? No, you take a daemon prince with Daemon of Nurgle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Within Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Daemon princess have the "Daemon of.." rule not the "mark of..." rule so the are perfectly valid. I feel iron warriors are better against mech heavy armies (oblits+ with tank hunter + sorcerers with heretech) however all other matches death guard I going to leave iron Warriors in the dust. The only place I can see is Sorcerer's don't have to take from Nurgle go discipline Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 And there is nothing you can buy for all the extra points you don't have to spend on MoN throughout your army? Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296724-iron-within-iron-without-an-iron-warriors-community/page/32/#findComment-4586790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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