FenrisWolf Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'd say the light to dark is best. But take a day off to do something else before you make your final decision. Don't paint angry! rgr_maddog 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3853390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PupLord Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi D. I absolutely love the runes in the middle picture (dark to light?). They look ace. If you can pull that through with all the panels and then have the topmost hatch in the reddish runic style I think you have a marvellous piece of art on your hands. Great job so far! -Pup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3853746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Thanks PupLord . The dark runes seem to be edging ahead, but we will see. Still debating what to do with the runes... In the meantime I have been working on another project. Shields for my Wolf Guard. Painted to paper about 3 times the size of the coin and ten shrunk down using the computer... Cheating I know, but still proud of them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Sweet looking shields, mate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Light to dark is my favorite. It blends nicely with the rest of the model, but still gives you some contrast and a little of that rune glow effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Do I go dark to light? What Colors did you use the middle Picture for the Runes? And Please say if its Vallejo , Citadel or whatever Edited November 6, 2014 by Donkalleone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I do believe he only uses Citadel colors (he mentioned that a long while back!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Yep Fen, you are right. It is Citadel colours. Only recentl;y at a gaming exhibitiondid I find anyone remotely local to me where I can lay my hands on vallejo paints. The other smaller model shops all do those wee metal tins with enamel paints too so Citadel has always been the most accessible paints to me. Vallejo and GW paints are very close in price here too. DonKalleone: I used Teclis Blue for the darkest colour, then drybrushed on teclis blue-ice blue mix (ice blue is an old GW colour, not sure of its equivalent) then a 50-50 Ice-blue white mix drybrushed on and finally etherium blue drybrush. Then went back with watered down Standard Mechaninicum grey to tidy up the overspill which left it all glowy. I used exactly the same colours but in reverse on the other side/ picture except starting with a pure white. It was glowy and looked awful because of it so I swiped over with mech grey thinking to start agai and te mech grey left the runes 90% untouched, which was kinda lucky Edited November 6, 2014 by dantay_xv Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Around me in the US, the Vallejo and Citadel are the same price, but the Citadel pots are 12 mL, the Vallejo are 17 mL. So almost 50% more for the same price. Rune_Priest_Rhapsody 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Ah cool, didnt know about the difference in quantity. I think I said before I would give it a go... Has your vallejo been okay? I rememer you were concerened about the mix in the bottles Edited November 6, 2014 by dantay_xv Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z00Z Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ah cool, didnt know about the difference in quantity. I think I said before I would give it a go... Has your vallejo been okay? I rememer you were concerened about the mix in the bottles You simply cannot compare the two ranges. My Vallejo pots are now 2 years old and going strong. Give a good shake before use and good to go. But then again I airbrush a lot which is much less paint usage than with brushwork. My personal opinion, Vallejo has the superior pigment, particularly noticeable on heavily diluted paint. Citadel lacks the medium density to hold the molecule bonds and is prone to cracking if heavily diluted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 I have to say I have been going through the newer pots of GW paints like nobody's business. Getting paint in the seals so they dry out etc. The hex pots were ace and I still have a fair few the golds, greens, reds and yellows are all the old hex pots. If I can get proper matching greys, then I'd definitely swap over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3854906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I also have found that P3 and Vallejo last longer, they're cheaper and the color range is just as good as GW's. I am loving the rune on the raptor, Dantay!! It had been a while since I dropped in last, and I must say, you've been busy. Shields as looking superb!! End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3855101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ah cool, didnt know about the difference in quantity. I think I said before I would give it a go... Has your vallejo been okay? I rememer you were concerened about the mix in the bottles I only had one bottle of Vallejo that I think needs to be stirred. I haven't painted since I made that comment! But once I figure out how to remove the top dropper, I can stir it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3855135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkalleone Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I only use Vallejo Paints. 17ml with "dropplet" function is far superior. The Colors are better or at leastthe same. It doesnt dry out as fast cause they close more secure. And the most important they ONLY Produce Paints so it wont change like GW does. What i have give to Citadel are the Dry (Necron Compound) and Washes (All). Those are really good. Edited November 6, 2014 by Donkalleone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3855136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 So this is where I am at. I have tonight and tomorrow night to get this finished before going back home and leaving this till next trip out. My main issue is the runes on the forward section, its still fairly close between which I should do I also need to do a design to go under the forward mini-wing and maybe something in front of the pilot. I am thinking a great wolf on the sides, but should I do a bit more knotwork to go with it? What do you think so far? Ironwulf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 That's looking fantastic! NIcely done, D! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail187 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 great free hand work !! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Can you incorporate a wolf into the knot work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I would put the Wolf That Stalks The Stars under the stub wing and a small piece of not work on the panel just in front of it. Will see if I can find a small triangular piece that would fit Edit: Maybe a version of the middle one? Edited November 9, 2014 by Vykryl Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Based on your history of this craft, is the wolf that stalks the stars Russ' symbol? Whatever is his is what I'd use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Based on your history of this craft, is the wolf that stalks the stars Russ' symbol? Whatever is his is what I'd use. According to our codex it the symbol of Russ and whoever holds the title of Great Wolf since his disappearance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Marvmoogy & Sohail: Thanks guys It's been a labour of love I have to tell you... Fen & Vyk. I had always planned to put the wolf which stalks in the design under the stub-wing, irs just what to put with it. I have an idea for the knot work which may kill 2 drekars with one stone. Something like this: The shiel design in the centre, which is Yggdrassil.. Use the circular banding around the wolf which stalks, and maybe use the Yggdrassil symbol on the black squares over the wing vents..... The circular banding would then tie the images together... The Night Fury could symbolically then be watching over Russ The Wolf who stalks the stars as seen on the body while protecting hunanity or the All-Father, as represented by the tree of life (Yggdrassil). Sound good or sound dumb? Also Vykryl... The second design is great your design would mirror the others perfectly. Thanks!! I am thinking of ding the banding in gold and the wolf either silver with a tint of blue, or black.. White might be too close to the grey and sort of disappear... so might the silver.... Hmmmm.. What do you guys think?? Edited November 9, 2014 by dantay_xv Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisWolf Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Based on your history of this craft, is the wolf that stalks the stars Russ' symbol? Whatever is his is what I'd use. According to our codex it the symbol of Russ and whoever holds the title of Great Wolf since his disappearance Didn't have my book. I thought that was the case, but couldn't remember specifically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z00Z Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Very nice Dantay, its looking superb! The runes on the side need framing, like a box around all of them of sort. It will draw attention to it and not get lost on a big panel :) I found some wolf designs that might suit for the 'wolf that stalks the stars' in the same sort of knotwork patterns you have done. Might need adaptation but I reckon it will look amazing. http://www.mondotatuaggio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Wolf-star.png http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6AatDC3HUo8/UUrZFDqgBOI/AAAAAAAAFno/gnGtoOeW3fg/s1600/tatuaggio+testa+lupo.jpg I really like the second design, if that is something you looking to add :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/296905-15-shades-of-grey-a-new-start-with-primaris/page/7/#findComment-3857852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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