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[LutherMax]

I found my untouched (save the mini codex) Shield of Baal box set. That and the new Sanguinary Priest. Ignoring my BA successor DIY, I decided to return to one of my favourite Chapters of all time.Flesh Tearers! (Rogue Trader Era ftw! ) ^_^

I've spent the last few days lurking in this forum for a recipe to get the shade of red I want. I've seen it, but topics, both and off the BnC haven't got the breakdown for it. I watched the GW video on how to paint FT red. It's good, but not quite dark enough. Hell, I've seen the exact shade in this forum in the past, but can I find it?! :lol:

Welcome back, son of Baal!

 

As for the red, what paint range do you prefer (Citadel, Vallejo etc)?

[Aqui]

I use Citadel, but I'm open to suggestions regarding Vallejo. There are a few places nearby thst sell a few paints in that range. I'm fairly sure that Morticon painted some Flesh Tearers in the exact shade in the past, but my search-fu must be weak because I can't find his topic now :(

[sockwithaticket]

If you do find a pic that would demonstrate it, let us know, it's a bit tricky to offer much guidance without.

[Jolemai]

RTS start date knocked back to Monday 4th September:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337874-the-bc-death-company-deploys-in-three-weeks-time/

[LutherMax]

I use Citadel, but I'm open to suggestions regarding Vallejo. There are a few places nearby thst sell a few paints in that range. I'm fairly sure that Morticon painted some Flesh Tearers in the exact shade in the past, but my search-fu must be weak because I can't find his topic now :(

Drop Morty a PM!

 

I do have this example (the cloak). If that's what you're looking for it was painted by layering:

- VMC* Hull Red

- VMC Burnt Cadmium Red

- VMG** Gory Red

- VMC Red

 

Then edge highlight VMC Amarantha Red

 

* Vallejo Model Color

** Vallejo Game Color

 

http://www.themightybrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Inquisitor-Consadine-04-750x750.jpg

[Aqui]

Thanks for the breakdown in the cloak as it's very near the colour I'd like :)

[Damon Nightman]

Hey probably a silly question guys, but I'm interested in getting the digital version of the index. When you buy a digital version of a codex or whatever, is it accessible on both apple and windows products or is there a separate iBooks or whatever version for apple stuff? Thanks!

[LutherMax]

Hey probably a silly question guys, but I'm interested in getting the digital version of the index. When you buy a digital version of a codex or whatever, is it accessible on both apple and windows products or is there a separate iBooks or whatever version for apple stuff? Thanks!

I think the eBook version can be used on either platform, but the enhanced version with the clickable pop-ups etc is Apple only. I might be wrong though, I only have the enhanced ones.

[sockwithaticket]

5th member of my Heavy Bolter Devastators is complete:

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2nd Company is now a mere assault marine away from completion (until I decide to go and redo the older models I can barely look at anymore...) Edited August 21, 2017 by sockwithaticket

[Jolemai]

To those of you who re-created our named Characters during the GBBO and have yet to paint them, the following may be of interest:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337844-bcks-character-conversion-challenge/

[Damon Nightman]

Some rumors on Naftka are saying DA, BA, and SW codices will be the last ones for this year. Apparently, they all will be released on the same day...

[Father Mapple]

If on same day, then no models besides upgrade sprues for primaris. If that.

[Charlo]

If on same day, then no models besides upgrade sprues for primaris. If that.

 

Which is fine, really.

 

Outside of special characters isn't much they could do... I mean, without blowing our minds.

 

Hopefully the 'dex will be a great win like the Chaos one etc

[Silverson]

I think that's been taken back already from some one described as a solid source.

[Xenith]

Interesting, I heard that there may be a dual BA/Nids release like GK/CSM, in November, based on the BA book and apparently some rumoured Tyranid-based novels in Nov.

[Jønke]

November can't come fast enough then!


I finally picked up the brush again and i want to update my plog. But now photobucket wants my money. So what image hosting services are the rest of you using now?

[Xenith]

November can't come fast enough then!

 

 

I finally picked up the brush again and i want to update my plog. But now photobucket wants my money. So what image hosting services are the rest of you using now?

 

Bolter and Chainsword Gallery. Much easier.

[Jønke]

Will use that then. Thx Xenith.

[Indefragable]

Got a 2k game in last night, turned out be part of the Konor campaign. Pretty creative mission where 6" of the board edge behind the Imperial attacker falls into the ocean.

 

My list:

Hidden Content

Battalion +3CP

Corbulo

Chaplain, Terminator

2x 5man Tac, melta/combi-melta

2x Rhino, dua stormbolters + HK missile

5man Scouts s/ sniper and cloak

5man Assault Terminators with LC

5man Devs, 4x heavy flamer, combi-flamer

Assback w/ stormbolter

 

Spearhead +1CP

Captain w/ jump, TH/SS

Land Raider Crusader

2x Predator w/ autocannon, lascannon sponsons

 

I didn't know we would play a special mission, but fer the above was a solid, if not overly powerful list.

 

Went up against:

Hidden Content

Khârn

8x berzerkers w/ plasma pistols and assortment of chainswords/axes

Rhino

 

2x 8 man units of 'zerkers, PP/CS/CA

2x Dark Apostle

2x Exalted Champion

2x Rhino

 

Hellbrute with twin lascannon

 

Hellbrute with multi-melta

 

Kaytan (sp?) with 48" 8 shot S8 AP-2 gun

 

Quick notes:

-mission was actually helluva lot of fun in concept. I think it could be easy to cheese knowing it ahead of time, but it was fun. Cinematic

 

-Berzerkers are awesome. As in, they SUCK to face, but that's a good thing for the game overall. Breakdown:

--3" disembark from a transport

-6" move

-12" re-rollable charge

-attack first from charging

-+1A from charging

-6's To Hit = more attacks (so free Corbulo)

-can get re-roll To Hit from Dark Apostle (chaplain equiv)

-can get re-rolls to all To Wound rolls in melee from Exalted Champion

-....get to do all of the above all over again with their special rule

 

-Using Rhinos to eat overwatch is annoying-as- :cuss effective tactic for shutting off overwatch. I never once got to fire my heavy flamers over 4 Turns as a result

 

- -1 To Hit for vehicles that have moved is painful. Especially when your enemy pops smoke on his, so you are -2 To Hit. And the ground is sinking into the ocean 6" behind you.

 

-the Explodes! rule needs to be reworked

 

-...so I had a Predator left with a single HP (so it can only move 3") that was bolt-pistoled to death by a locked-in Berzerker. Predator blew up, causing Mortal Wounds to my Termie squad which was nearing the Exit, my captain, the other Predator, the last Rhino, his own 'zerker squad, a Hellbrute which lost its last wound and blew up, a crapload of characters, and Devs. The sheer amount of destruction caused was laughably awesome...except for how stupid the game mechanic is...

 

...those are unsavable wounds. From a bolt pistol. In combat.

 

-Sniper Scouts once again caused exactly 1 Mortal Wound in the exactly 1 round of shooting I actually got to use them for.

 

-Predator Autocannons are nuts. 2D3 S7 AP-1 D:3 is crazy.

 

-Corbulo + LC Terminators have potential. I killed Khârn without even batting an eye, getting 16x attacks, + an extra 3 from 6's. If you don't bring a means of re-rolling To Hit for a unit like this you need to be slapped. All S5, re-rolling all To Wound. If you get to attack first with a unit like this, I think it will earn its points back. I still thinks it's incredibly brittle consider its funkin' Terminators.

 

-people shoot Assbacks first. Even when there are Predators and a Land Raider full of Terminators nearby. My how their reputation has grown

 

I lost since that Predator blowing up meant I did not have enough PL left in my army to get 33% of it off the other side (should I even reach there). Overall creative mission, good data collected, and a mix of both dread and hope for the future.

 

Dread: we're :cuss -ed for a while. It's a simple fact. We don't do anything wel enough to make up for gaps elsewhere. Can BA win? Sure, but just like 7th it will take effort, so prepare yourself.

 

Hope: the Chaos SM book added and changed a bunch of things from Index: Chaos. For example, the Exalted Champion that re-rolls To Wounds in combat is not in the Index. This gives me hope that whenever our book eventually drops, things may be re-worked enough that we could be in a much, much, much better place.

[Chaplain Gunzhard]

Got a 2k game in last night, turned out be part of the Konor campaign. Pretty creative mission where 6" of the board edge behind the Imperial attacker falls into the ocean.

 

My list:

Hidden Content

Battalion +3CP

Corbulo

Chaplain, Terminator

2x 5man Tac, melta/combi-melta

2x Rhino, dua stormbolters + HK missile

5man Scouts s/ sniper and cloak

5man Assault Terminators with LC

5man Devs, 4x heavy flamer, combi-flamer

Assback w/ stormbolter

 

Spearhead +1CP

Captain w/ jump, TH/SS

Land Raider Crusader

2x Predator w/ autocannon, lascannon sponsons

 

I didn't know we would play a special mission, but fer the above was a solid, if not overly powerful list.

 

Went up against:

Hidden Content

Khârn

8x berzerkers w/ plasma pistols and assortment of chainswords/axes

Rhino

 

2x 8 man units of 'zerkers, PP/CS/CA

2x Dark Apostle

2x Exalted Champion

2x Rhino

 

Hellbrute with twin lascannon

 

Hellbrute with multi-melta

 

Kaytan (sp?) with 48" 8 shot S8 AP-2 gun

 

Quick notes:

-mission was actually helluva lot of fun in concept. I think it could be easy to cheese knowing it ahead of time, but it was fun. Cinematic

 

-Berzerkers are awesome. As in, they SUCK to face, but that's a good thing for the game overall. Breakdown:

--3" disembark from a transport

-6" move

-12" re-rollable charge

-attack first from charging

-+1A from charging

-6's To Hit = more attacks (so free Corbulo)

-can get re-roll To Hit from Dark Apostle (chaplain equiv)

-can get re-rolls to all To Wound rolls in melee from Exalted Champion

-....get to do all of the above all over again with their special rule

 

-Using Rhinos to eat overwatch is annoying-as- effective tactic for shutting off overwatch. I never once got to fire my heavy flamers over 4 Turns as a result

 

- -1 To Hit for vehicles that have moved is painful. Especially when your enemy pops smoke on his, so you are -2 To Hit. And the ground is sinking into the ocean 6" behind you.

 

-the Explodes! rule needs to be reworked

 

-...so I had a Predator left with a single HP (so it can only move 3") that was bolt-pistoled to death by a locked-in Berzerker. Predator blew up, causing Mortal Wounds to my Termie squad which was nearing the Exit, my captain, the other Predator, the last Rhino, his own 'zerker squad, a Hellbrute which lost its last wound and blew up, a crapload of characters, and Devs. The sheer amount of destruction caused was laughably awesome...except for how stupid the game mechanic is...

 

...those are unsavable wounds. From a bolt pistol. In combat.

 

-Sniper Scouts once again caused exactly 1 Mortal Wound in the exactly 1 round of shooting I actually got to use them for.

 

-Predator Autocannons are nuts. 2D3 S7 AP-1 D:3 is crazy.

 

-Corbulo + LC Terminators have potential. I killed Khârn without even batting an eye, getting 16x attacks, + an extra 3 from 6's. If you don't bring a means of re-rolling To Hit for a unit like this you need to be slapped. All S5, re-rolling all To Wound. If you get to attack first with a unit like this, I think it will earn its points back. I still thinks it's incredibly brittle consider its funkin' Terminators.

 

-people shoot Assbacks first. Even when there are Predators and a Land Raider full of Terminators nearby. My how their reputation has grown

 

I lost since that Predator blowing up meant I did not have enough PL left in my army to get 33% of it off the other side (should I even reach there). Overall creative mission, good data collected, and a mix of both dread and hope for the future.

 

Dread: we're -ed for a while. It's a simple fact. We don't do anything wel enough to make up for gaps elsewhere. Can BA win? Sure, but just like 7th it will take effort, so prepare yourself.

 

Hope: the Chaos SM book added and changed a bunch of things from Index: Chaos. For example, the Exalted Champion that re-rolls To Wounds in combat is not in the Index. This gives me hope that whenever our book eventually drops, things may be re-worked enough that we could be in a much, much, much better place.

 

So cool to see you running slice and dice Terminators, sounds like they did work too. But yeah I face Chaos a LOT now and they do everything better.

 

Your experience with Heavy Flamers is exactly mine - any good player will just dummy-assault them with a transport; same thing was happening to my Snipers until I started putting them up a level.

 

Thanks for the report!

[Indefragable]

 

 

So cool to see you running slice and dice Terminators, sounds like they did work too. But yeah I face Chaos a LOT now and they do everything better.

 

Your experience with Heavy Flamers is exactly mine - any good player will just dummy-assault them with a transport; same thing was happening to my Snipers until I started putting them up a level.

 

Thanks for the report!

-the Termies annhilated Khârn because it was him +1 Berzerker left standing. Khârn killed half his own squad (haha), the LRC killed one in melee (lol), then 2 more died from Morale...from being killed by Khârn and the LRC in melee (rofl). I guess the most dangerous thing to a Khorne Berzerker is a Khorne Berzerker himself.

 

-Snipers didn't really have a chance to do anything else since they had to make and exactly 11" Move+Advance to escape their tower crashing into the ocean. They rolled exactly 11.

 

-regarding the Heavy Flamer squad and everything else, I'm finding that in 8th, if you want something dead, it's dead or neutralized*. So anything that's not expendable needs a trick of some sort for it to do what you want it to do.

 

*at least for everyone else. I've been amazed how many 1-wound units I can't seem to finish off in 8th.

[Charlo]

Berserkers look awesome and terrifying!

 

Seems like you put up a good fight though, even with the hilarious predator nuke.

 

Good data.

[JeffJedi]

Has anyone tried Horus Heresy Blood Angels head on Primaries Marines?

[Jolemai]

How the Death Company contingent will work for this year's RTS:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337874-the-bc-death-company-deploys-on-the-4th-september/?p=4868762

[sockwithaticket]

Has anyone tried Horus Heresy Blood Angels head on Primaries Marines?

I've certainly seen it done, probably in this sub-forum's primaris showcase. Primaris and regular marine heads are the same size, so they'll fit if that was your concern.