Aothaine Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 If you are looking at winning a huge tourney I would agree that taking the right chapter tactic will make or break your chances. So mixing stuff up is really important. I also think that you can make a very competitive Blood Angels list with just Blood Angels. But it wouldn't be anything I would take near my LGS. People would just not want me around anymore. I think flavor and enjoyment come first. After that.. do what you think will let you win. If you're going to be Gamey... then be Gamey. Tri-Detatchment 1st - Elite detatchment Celestine three squads of jumppack girls in pa with bolt pistols (They are for grabbing objectives and softening up targets) 2nd - Battalion Sanguinor Sang Priest SG Intcessor x3 (5-man) 3rd - Battalion 2 HQ options 3 infantry blobs with lascannons heavy weapons 3 heavy weapon platoons (are these still a thing?) with lascannons Mixing stuff up doesn't have to be cheesy. It can be... but this could easily be thematic and fairly strong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4950928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't think Command Points would be that much of an issue. You can take a cheap-ish Ravenguard Battalion detachment with 1x Captain, 1x Lieutenant, 3x5 Intercessors (took them with the Stalker Boltrifle just for the heck of it) and 2x5 Lascannon Devastators for about 800p. That's 3CP already. Then a BA Battalion detachment with 3x CC Scouts, 1x Sanguinary Ancient, 1x10 Sanguinary Guard and you are at about 1500p total. So you have 500p for HQs and other stuff. That's another 3CP. Together with the battleforged bonus you'd be at 9CP. Surely not the best list one could do with those two factions, but the best I could do this spontanously since I'm also rather tired right now. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4950942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Gamey schmamey, you lose out on command points at the expense of varied army. After seeing today's DA info my Hellblasters have realised they're the wrong Angels baha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Ghost IX Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Those are gonna be good *nod. --------- There I was basking in the glow of my new codex and here comes these Green Jawa looking bastids laughing at my ride . . . Hellblasters... I need no stinking hellblasters . . . Tell them to go away we already got one *nod. So anyways men "When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that was your buddies face... You'll know what to do" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Gamey schmamey, you lose out on command points at the expense of varied army.After seeing today's DA info my Hellblasters have realised they're the wrong Angels baha Yes, it's unfortunate that the DA got both a special rule and stratagem that synergise perfectly with one of the highlights of the new releases to create a horrible combo and we didn't. Annoying how GW could miss that beat. Still, here's hoping that like for us, the best stuff was all top loaded. Had anyone got info on the assault lieutenant profile from the new book? Weapon options etc? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tonight my first Codex Game vs. World Eaters. 1500 Points. Report follows Tomorrow. :) Aothaine, Emicus and Crimson Ghost IX 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's simple.. we kill the ba... I mean... We use plasma inceptors and upon wings of fire to drop down beside camping DA hellblasters. Xenith, Pendent and Crimson Ghost IX 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tinkering around with an all primaris army. Attempt 1 with out knowing price points on the Vitae/BoS ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [105 PL, 1896pts] ++ + HQ + Primaris Chaplain [6 PL, 85pts] Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 182pts]: 2x Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword + Elites + Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69pts] + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [105 PL, 1896pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You'll want a captain or two to babysit the hellblasters Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You really need a Captain so those Hellblasters can overcharge without giving themselves a suntan with a half-life of 10,000 years. Those plasma Incinerators are your only source of heavy firepower and you will need the kill multi-wound models with them on a regular basis. If you split that large squad of Intercessors into MSU and add another HQ, I think you might be able to run a Brigade for those tasty 9 CPs. Brother Aether 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aether Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You really need a Captain so those Hellblasters can overcharge without giving themselves a suntan with a half-life of 10,000 years. Probably the best description of plasma overheat I've seen recently. Cheers! Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4951936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just snapped Astorath's axe haft whilst trying to gently(!) file glue off the end I need to re-attack to the head... *golf clap* Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just snapped Astorath's axe haft whilst trying to gently(!) file glue off the end I need to re-attack to the head... *golf clap* Good opportunity for battle damage! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just snapped Astorath's axe haft whilst trying to gently(!) file glue off the end I need to re-attack to the head... *golf clap* Good opportunity for battle damage! It's also a good opportunity to utter a few choice words in the direction of Finecast :/ Panzer and Arkaniss 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Sorry to hear, but I kinda hate Astorath so secretly this makes me happy haha (yes I'm a bad person). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoridon Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just snapped Astorath's axe haft whilst trying to gently(!) file glue off the end I need to re-attack to the head... *golf clap* I knocked mine over on the shelf and his axe haft snapped too. It's still sitting on his base waiting to be repaired for painting. Very weak component! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just snapped Astorath's axe haft whilst trying to gently(!) file glue off the end I need to re-attack to the head... *golf clap* Good opportunity for battle damage! It's also a good opportunity to utter a few choice words in the direction of Finecast :/ I refuse to buy finecast. One of the reasons my options are so limited. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I've been doing a ton of work over the past few weeks in preparation for the codex so I thought it might be fun to post a few pictures: I was inspired by Chapter Approved to try to build some of my own objective markets last night. I need to get them painted up but I cannot wait to not be using dice anymore. A Reiver sergeant I've been working on. Not particularly remarkable aside from the fact that his skin is the best I've ever been able to pull off. I'm also working on expanding my Sanguinary Guard and am tweaking my gold formula a bit- I really like how this turned out. It's just plain Retributor Gold with a heavy wash of Nuln oil over it all. Still obviously very much a work in progress. My captain I've been working on for a while now. Still trying to come up with a power sword recipe I like and his face needs a bunch of work but he's coming along pretty nicely. brother_b, Crimson Ghost IX, Xenith and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You really need a Captain so those Hellblasters can overcharge without giving themselves a suntan with a half-life of 10,000 years. Those plasma Incinerators are your only source of heavy firepower and you will need the kill multi-wound models with them on a regular basis. If you split that large squad of Intercessors into MSU and add another HQ, I think you might be able to run a Brigade for those tasty 9 CPs. Still tinkering. Here's what the brigade would look like. 20-25 points available for Banner of Sacrifice (unless it costs more) I'd focus on ObSec and the stratagems to place my inceptors. I think BH is on to something with them. The captain could also give the Hellblasters their re-roll bubbles. As of Saturday I'll have all this plus some. In the mean time just going to need some experimenting. ++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [114 PL, 1980pts] ++ + HQ + Primaris Captain [6 PL, 95pts]: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle, Power sword Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword + Elites + Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69pts] + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [114 PL, 1980pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You really need a Captain so those Hellblasters can overcharge without giving themselves a suntan with a half-life of 10,000 years. Those plasma Incinerators are your only source of heavy firepower and you will need the kill multi-wound models with them on a regular basis. If you split that large squad of Intercessors into MSU and add another HQ, I think you might be able to run a Brigade for those tasty 9 CPs. Still tinkering. Here's what the brigade would look like. 20-25 points available for Banner of Sacrifice (unless it costs more) I'd focus on ObSec and the stratagems to place my inceptors. I think BH is on to something with them. The captain could also give the Hellblasters their re-roll bubbles. As of Saturday I'll have all this plus some. In the mean time just going to need some experimenting. ++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [114 PL, 1980pts] ++ + HQ + Primaris Captain [6 PL, 95pts]: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle, Power sword Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword Primaris Lieutenants [4 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary grenade launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword + Elites + Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Aggressor Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 2x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant . Auto boltstorm gauntlets and fragstorm grenade launcher: Auto boltstorm gauntlets, Fragstorm grenade launcher Primaris Ancient [4 PL, 69pts] + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant . Two assault bolters: 2x Assault bolter + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: 4x Hellblaster, Plasma incinerator . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [114 PL, 1980pts] ++ Oh wow, does Battlescribe already have our updated costs for the codex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 No, but it does have the CA update. Dont-Be-Haten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Still tinkering. Here's what the brigade would look like. 20-25 points available for Banner of Sacrifice (unless it costs more) Relics don't cost points. You get one for free with your army. If you want a second one, it costs 1 CP. If you want 3 total, it costs 3CP. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Even Better. I haven't really looked at relics or the like. School has been the consumption of my existence for the Last 4 months. Apologies for the ignorance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Even Better. I haven't really looked at relics or the like. School has been the consumption of my existence for the Last 4 months. Apologies for the ignorance. Don't apologize man. Just trying to help the fellow fraters out. Damon Nightman and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) I'm also working on expanding my Sanguinary Guard and am tweaking my gold formula a bit- I really like how this turned out. It's just plain Retributor Gold with a heavy wash of Nuln oil over it all. Still obviously very much a work in progress. Nice progress! I can suggest a coat of retributor followed by a wash of 50/50 agrax earthshade and lahmianmedium over the black. I think the nuln will dull the gold too much, and the lahmian will make the agrax flow into the recesses better, preserving the main colour, while the agrax will keep things warm. A few pages back in my plog during ETL 2016 I did Dante, Sanguinor and a Captain using this method if you want to see. I also did a shade of seraphim sepia, and then a recess shade of leviathan purple. EDIT: This is retributor + agrax only This is retributor + agrax + purple This is retributor + agrax + purple + runefacg/stormhost highlights (not the best lighting) Edited December 6, 2017 by Xenith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297201-ba-today/page/278/#findComment-4952546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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