Mad Doc Grotsnik Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Depends if you use the spiky sprue? That gives it some points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Darn it people. I gave you people all day to order them, but they were still available when I checked this evening. You owe me a hundred bucks. Care to explain?Because we didn't buy them all he's bought one, whereas he was hoping for it to sell out before he got home from work? Pretty much. I did manage to resist getting any plastic crack until I can make a mega order with a buddy near christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Grotsnik Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Quick list of all the Spartan Options...  Can upgrade twin linked HBs to twin linked Heavy Flamers  Can exchange quad lascannons for Laser Destroyers (36", S9, AP1, Ordnance 1 Twin Linked)  Can upgrade to Frag Assault Launchers  Can upgrade to Armoured Ceramite (to make Blood Angels cry)  Can have one pintle mount. Choice of combi-bolter, havoc launcher, heavy flamer heavy bolter, multi-melta  Can take Daemonic Possession, Dirge Caster, Warpflame Gargoyles  Malefic Ammo for Heavy Bolters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The gargoyles and dirge caster are hilarious. Â I just want so much extra dakka with them, and then add more dice just to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Doc Grotsnik Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Having looked up the Dirge Caster (I'm not a Chaos player!) I can see why the boosted range is so popular. UP YOURS TAU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Now if you could give the Dreadclaws and Assault Claws dirge casters and then give them the Screams of Lugganath Legacy of Ruin... I could see 3 Dreadclaws with those flying the back field of a Tau force, giving them head-aches lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Â This is the most enthusiastic Chaos thread I've seen in a very long time. You should stop by more often. Should have seen us during the ETL. Or checked out the Legion/Warband topics. Keep an eye out for Call of Chaos too ;) I should clarify - I meant Chaos rules thread ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Underbelly Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah I'm really excited. I've always enjoyed the idea of a proper traitor legion made up of baddy space marines and tanks rather than daemon engines. Can't wait for this book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incinerator950 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I wouldn't have a problem with demon engines if the FF and Defiler were cheaper and relatively effective. Maulerfiends work, but get shut out and we don't need a topic derailing on the durpbird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 While dreadclaws are pricey i may end up buying a few loyalist pods and converting them Waaaay ahead of you. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/849/rvub.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/32/rmvn.jpg With my Chosen squad coming out! http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/27/lm5w.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nice, another conversion boner. Very cool idea Slayer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So I just finished reading my copy. The Heretics and Renegades list truly is 'Here, have the Guard codex at BS2, with extra bits!'. Â I am probably going to use 90% of this book at one point or another. 10/10, would recommend to any Chaos player. Â Dragonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Nice, another conversion boner. Very cool idea Slayer! I meant "conversion WINNER" but I'll stand by my original statement he he he. Â Really like your use of the raptor kit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totgeboren Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Really cool, and finally my LatD can come out of retirement! Though it seems like I will need to leave my Sentinels on the shelf. Someone at FW hates Sentinels something fierce, their rules in this book makes them unplayable.  I'm disappointed in a few other things though, first of all that they didn't fix the Decimator, especially the Conversion Beamer upgrade. It makes the model worse, so should definitely not be an expensive upgrade. I mean, with two claws you have what is basically an Ironclad, not too bad. With the Beamer you have a worse Defiler that can't move and shoot. Bummer.  The Contemptor is cool, but overcosted. Not as bad as the Decimator, though it has the same problem with the Beamer which is simply a non-option. Downgrades should not cost points FW!  And last, those oh so cool Brutes... Three cost more than a Demolisher while not really being better than standard Ogryns (probably worse, no Ripper Gun is a huge deal). The upgrades seem costed for larger size units, but a larger size unit of Brutes would then make up a third or a fourth on a normal-sized army. Their impact on the army looks like what Ogryns do to AM, only much worse. Bummer.  But the new Hell Blade! Sooo cool! God-specific Dreads! Sooo cool! Dread claws! Sooo cool! I feel a bit like a Shoggoth. http://www.comboutique.com/shop/products/inprint_small/USR21343/20070701231812_shoggy01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Rakarial 20 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Malefic ammo is it available to all vehicles heavy bolters ie preds with heavy bolters brutes with heavy bolters etc? Cause that could be pretty tasty tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Really cool, and finally my LatD can come out of retirement! Though it seems like I will need to leave my Sentinels on the shelf. Someone at FW hates Sentinels something fierce, their rules in this book makes them unplayable.  I'm disappointed in a few other things though, first of all that they didn't fix the Decimator, especially the Conversion Beamer upgrade. It makes the model worse, so should definitely not be an expensive upgrade. I mean, with two claws you have what is basically an Ironclad, not too bad. With the Beamer you have a worse Defiler that can't move and shoot. Bummer.  The Contemptor is cool, but overcosted. Not as bad as the Decimator, though it has the same problem with the Beamer which is simply a non-option. Downgrades should not cost points FW!  And last, those oh so cool Brutes... Three cost more than a Demolisher while not really being better than standard Ogryns (probably worse, no Ripper Gun is a huge deal). The upgrades seem costed for larger size units, but a larger size unit of Brutes would then make up a third or a fourth on a normal-sized army. Their impact on the army looks like what Ogryns do to AM, only much worse. Bummer.  But the new Hell Blade! Sooo cool! God-specific Dreads! Sooo cool! Dread claws! Sooo cool! I feel a bit like a Shoggoth. http://www.comboutique.com/shop/products/inprint_small/USR21343/20070701231812_shoggy01.jpg    Yeah, pretty much agree with this, overall book is excellent, but FW's testers were smoking some bad grenola when looking at the brutes, spawn and sentinels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Malefic ammo is it available to all vehicles heavy bolters ie preds with heavy bolters brutes with heavy bolters etc? Cause that could be pretty tasty tbh Malefic ammo is it available to all vehicles heavy bolters ie preds with heavy bolters brutes with heavy bolters etc? Cause that could be pretty tasty tbh Malefic ammo is it available to all vehicles heavy bolters ie preds with heavy bolters brutes with heavy bolters etc? Cause that could be pretty tasty tbh  If something has access to heavy bolters and has a unit entry in the book, it can get malefic ammo. There's no cost for units listed in codex CSM, so they can't. The cost of malefic ammo varies a lot, but it is quite pricey. I would say it's only worth it on units that can buy lots of heavy bolters (HB sponson Sicaran, Fire Raptor etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014   This is the most enthusiastic Chaos thread I've seen in a very long time.You should stop by more often. Should have seen us during the ETL. Or checked out the Legion/Warband topics. Keep an eye out for Call of Chaos too ;)I should clarify - I meant Chaos rules thread ;) Valid point then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 So I just finished reading my copy. The Heretics and Renegades list truly is 'Here, have the Guard codex at BS2, with extra bits!'. Â I am probably going to use 90% of this book at one point or another. 10/10, would recommend to any Chaos player. Â Dragonlover How's the fluff ? Cool Black Legion stuff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The fluff is solid, a fair few of the example vehicles are Black Legion, so there's stuff scattered through the book. Â Dragonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I saw an Emperors Children Sicarius Tank.  That is what i'm interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The Flawless Host Fire Raptor looks the absolute nuts as well, I really want to see someone do that on an actual model. Â Dragonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 winners: S8(!) AP3 ordinance 1 large blast barrage ignore cover pinning colossus bombards (in squadrons of 3) for less than a bare-bones 1k sons squad. ~40% cheaper spawn for tzeentch/zombies for nurgle blastmaster/warpamp sonic dread with rending + double fire rate (bit pricy though) Â loosers: giant spawn >>HS, daemons only no machine spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 While I'm waiting for mine to arrive - any good Word Bearer stuff in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm really upset about giant spawn being demons only heavy support , or lotd lords of war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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