Charlo Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Moving Heavy Weapons at normal BS because you attached a Master of Signal... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4728570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Artillery gun line. Medusas, quads and heavy squads, do have deathshroud or gravewardens to act as bodyguard and a Spartan tho. I have both a typhoon and morty but can't include both. And as for grav imploders..... I have my own reductor force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4731829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I've used the typhoon one game and id did ok. Not any better then my two medusas did tho. Morty eats most things but really need a bodyguard and Spartan which makes the points spiral out of control a bit. Unless u run him solo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4732270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I've used the typhoon one game and id did ok. Not any better then my two medusas did tho. Morty eats most things but really need a bodyguard and Spartan which makes the points spiral out of control a bit. Unless u run him solo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4732397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Land raider or dread claw will just get 3 deathshroud with him tho. Hardly worth it. And I have a,Spartan lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4732905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 For hilarity though you can fit him, two Deathshroud and a Primus Medicae in a Dreadclaw. If it's shot down you just tank with Mortarion now having FNP. Otherwise you're pretty much guaranteed to get Morty where he needs to be to start his teleporting shadow dance of doom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4733428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 That would be cool to see. Can't deepstrike with the reaping tho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4733955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 That would be cool to see. Can't deepstrike with the reaping tho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4734294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 My army is based off it.and how I like to play..... Not really gonna change it much. Only other way is sometimes run pride. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4735035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I run reaping pretty much all the time, have two deathstorms that never see daylight. I found Morty with a bodyguard actually made him easier to kill due to majority touhness rule. Take him in with Spartan, leave unit on disembark, hit tso targets simultaneous... maybe? I generally run a Cataphractii Praetor with Scythe these days. Cheap as chips. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4739168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosswoodfox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I run the Cataphractii Praetor with Scythe too because sometimes I use the Typhus model for it.. friend was saying I should just do artificer with Iron Halo and it would be better/cheaper. Anyone have thoughts on that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4742105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 A Praetor with Cataphractii armour and a Power Scythe costs 145 points. A Praetor with an Iron Halo and a Power Scythe costs 145 points. Both have identical armour and invulnerable saves. The Cataphractii Praetor cannot sweep/overwatch/run, and is bulky, but has a better gun and access to cheaper guns like combi-weapons (by a small discount). So the non-Terminator has a slim list of advantages. I have two Praetors, one modelled as a Terminator, one without. It's really just about rule of cool. A Terminator Praetor can rapid fire something like plasma and then charge, which a normal Praetor cannot do, As I don't run a Praetor around the board, and have Grave Wardens/Deathshroud for overwatch, and DG have negative modifier to sweeping anyway, I don't think there's a significant disparity between the two. The only time I run him in artificer armour is when with Deathshroud or in smaller games with no Terminators at all, as they can sweep/run and there's no point in having him slow them down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4742188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have 2 terminator praetors' one is calas one is in tartaros with a paragon blade. He is so much better with the shroud. Calas/cata praetor is better with wardens. Put the same armours together to get the benefits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4742450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Other than rule of cool, Tartaros offers you basically nothing over Iron Halo + Artificer. A Praetor in Tartaros + Paragon Blade is 5 points more expensive than an Artificer/Halo Praetor with a Paragon. I'd take the +1 invul over a slightly better bolter any day Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4742470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Other than rule of cool, Tartaros offers you basically nothing over Iron Halo + Artificer. A Praetor in Tartaros + Paragon Blade is 5 points more expensive than an Artificer/Halo Praetor with a Paragon. I'd take the +1 invul over a slightly better bolter any dayAnd you can use grenades in an Artificer Armour. Edited May 16, 2017 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4742885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Aside - HH is staying 7th Ed for now from the FAQ. Re the armour if you use reaping there is only the sweeping advance vs relentless (thats not relentless but it is relentless...) as a difference between the two armours. That and i generally roll with a cataphractii squad anyway. I just like the armour i guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4744861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Yeah, like I said, it's fine as a rule of cool. But if you're not taking a chainfist on your Praetor, or rapid firing a combi-plasma before you charge, you get no benefit at all from Tartaros armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4745396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Ah i somehow missed the swap to Tartaros, totally agree there Marshal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4745721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I just like the look Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4746881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I shall leave Tartaros to the more airy fairy legions... does look nice tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4747159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Err deathshroud? It's tartaros. disease 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4748093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbarbalus Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Did they retcon it to specify? Cos otherwise if it looks like Cataphractii it is Cataphractii... Never did understand why they modelled tartaros. You can probably guess i dont take them out for a stroll much hah hah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4750345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 You could model them are cataphractii. I'm planning on doing that in future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4750366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) They are neither Cataphractii nor Tartarors. Just vanilla terminator armour. Edited May 22, 2017 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4750613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 There modelled as tartaros. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/39/#findComment-4750669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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