rednekkboss Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yup, terracotta done. great look! can't wait to see how you portray the jade. And great respect on moving them on to new home. I absolutely can't part with any of mine, even the terrible, terrible minis from the 80's ( well the mini's were great, but my painting, not so much) all still in a box! I'm torn between two approaches to the jade. Either the pieces of jade (like the mask below) or the stone pattern. Both would be equally time consuming and piddly, but the end result would be different than your average flat color marines. What do ya'll think? Any preferences from the masses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4405773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojo Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Stone man, all the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4405779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yup, terracotta done. great look! can't wait to see how you portray the jade. And great respect on moving them on to new home. I absolutely can't part with any of mine, even the terrible, terrible minis from the 80's ( well the mini's were great, but my painting, not so much) all still in a box! I'm torn between two approaches to the jade. Either the pieces of jade (like the mask below) or the stone pattern. Both would be equally time consuming and piddly, but the end result would be different than your average flat color marines. What do ya'll think? Any preferences from the masses. Might as well use both; your tactical Marines wear stone masks, but your Veteran Sergeants wear jade masks as a sign of rank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4405780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm partial to the stone, but I like the idea of using the mask texture maybe just on the helmets. The Vet idea is a good one too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4405785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The Stoner man , Stone Man I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4406048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I love the jade, but that'd probably be more work than the stone. Doing the mask jade on the helmets and the rest in the stone like txture would work. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4406071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 I love the jade, but that'd probably be more work than the stone. Doing the mask jade on the helmets and the rest in the stone like txture would work. I think that'be the test model, hopefully I can get one done this weekend amidst the gardening and honey-do list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4406401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Looking forward to it! I must say this thread is a continuous inspiration! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4406407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 I painted for a couple hours tonight. Drove myself nearly insane, but did not manage to throw the miniature across the room. I came to the conclusion that the mask pattern is just too busy, so I'm going to do the faux stone texture. After a few attempts and screw ups I came up with the basic tone of the jade, but still have to do the details. At least you can get an idea of how the colors will play together. Still have the details to do, but this gives me a point where I could conceivably assembly line the remaining marines in my vow and get their base colors on, before I detail them.. That very well might be the next step. But here's where I'm at now. I think the tones work well together. There are so many jades to choose from. The shoulder plate is likely to have more colors on it to represent the rainbow wings of the Quetzacoatyl. Of maybe irridecents. Still playing with that idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Do you think the right pauldron (shoulder armor) will look good with golden molecular bonding studs? Anyways, I think the left pauldron is fine as it are- at most give it the marbling we sometimes see on real jade. The rainbow colors are probably best reserved for a back banner- if you want rainbow wings, maybe you should use parts from a Dark Angels kit to give the Marine wings (see Polish "winged hussars" for inspiration). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Do you think the right pauldron (shoulder armor) will look good with golden molecular bonding studs? Anyways, I think the left pauldron is fine as it are- at most give it the marbling we sometimes see on real jade. The rainbow colors are probably best reserved for a back banner- if you want rainbow wings, maybe you should use parts from a Dark Angels kit to give the Marine wings (see Polish "winged hussars" for inspiration). It'll depend on how the "marbling" or stone effects go (probably tomorrow night) I might keep it all a solid color. There are a LOT of cool ideas in the Meso-American stable, but painting them in 28mm scale isn't always practical...especially if you don't want eh model to get too "busy" looking. But yeah... sometimes less is more. It wouldn't be the first time my ideas got a head of what will work on the miniature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Dude it looks fantastic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 What he said Fantastic!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yeah it looks great. That bonding-studs-in-gold idea is very appropriate, given that gold was one of the few metals the meso-americans had access to. Perhaps you could even do the bolter casings in obsidian, while the muzzle and cartridges are gold too?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yeah it looks great. That bonding-studs-in-gold idea is very appropriate, given that gold was one of the few metals the meso-americans had access to. Perhaps you could even do the bolter casings in obsidian, while the muzzle and cartridges are gold too?! No, make the bolt SHELL obsidian, in case the Marines encounter Westerosi Daemonhosts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Or that, but wasnt it so that Rednekk already wanted to do the casings obsidian...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Or that, but wasnt it so that Rednekk already wanted to do the casings obsidian...? Yup, weapon casings will be obsidian. The jade may get a bit more detailing, but in looking at it today it hits pretty close to what I want. There will be some washing and semi-gloss layers to give it depth. I thought of going with a more 'yellow" green rather than the blue, but these two colors play off each other perfectly (even on the color wheel) I like the idea of the gold studs. Where the project is at at the moment is this: Now that I've figured out the basic colors and how to get them, I'll be painting all of the marines in a assembly line to get the two basic colors on, then I'll go by squad to get the details. I still have to build 1 assault marine, figure out how I want to paint backpacks/jumppacks and then scratch build all the hand weapons for the assault squad. I think it may be doable by August 15. I hope. But I have a better plan that last year. Barring injury or natural disasters, I should be in line to actually completer a challenge for one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4409974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Couldn't you paint the little tabs sticking out of the top of the left pad in rainbow form? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4410452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Couldn't you paint the little tabs sticking out of the top of the left pad in rainbow form? I'm going to try that on a test model to see how it looks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4410650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I painted for a couple hours tonight. Drove myself nearly insane, but did not manage to throw the miniature across the room. I came to the conclusion that the mask pattern is just too busy, so I'm going to do the faux stone texture. After a few attempts and screw ups I came up with the basic tone of the jade, but still have to do the details. At least you can get an idea of how the colors will play together. Still have the details to do, but this gives me a point where I could conceivably assembly line the remaining marines in my vow and get their base colors on, before I detail them.. That very well might be the next step. But here's where I'm at now. I think the tones work well together. There are so many jades to choose from. The shoulder plate is likely to have more colors on it to represent the rainbow wings of the Quetzacoatyl. Of maybe irridecents. Still playing with that idea. Yeah this is gorgeous! Definitely working! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4410835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind_015 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Oh man I'm digging this! Great concept and that stone texture it looking fantastic. Just goes to show that even if you're working in earthy colors, you can still get good color without it getting all muddy. Can't wait to see more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4411420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Really nice colour scheme that you've got there. Can't wait to see more. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4411627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHunters Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Yup, really coming together chap, and i reckon once all the details and weapons are picked out they will look epic. not a bad shout on the rainbow pattern either - that could be really nice! What colour eye lenses are you going to be going with though....?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4412109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednekkboss Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 Well, gang.... after some quick checking of references of feathery birds and Aztec stuff, I came up with this mock -up in photoshop. C&C welcome. Nighthunters: Probably red on the eye lenses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4412177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Dude thats awesome please do this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/310297-the-apostles-of-quetza-etl-v-update/page/6/#findComment-4412201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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