Nomus Sardauk Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Or have a weapon that causes a Cavitation Bubble: Oooo, Slips you clever devil! Excellent idea sir, gotta love Mother Nature! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 So a sort of close combat sonic weapon? I could see that working :) We did discuss transonic weapons for The Drowned at some stage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Cavitation bubbles work fine in standard atmospheres, but obviously not at all in vacuums. What about something like Doctor Octopus' arms, like a super advanced servo harness. +4 attacks in close combat would be amazing. And like the idea of a harpoon personally. Brings to mind Ahab and Moby Dick. It could have a shooting and cc profile and you could have it pull models to the user like the old lash whip that'd be cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 A Servo-Harness Type deal could be interesting, yes but I'd probably make it Forge Lord, Primus Medicae or Praevian only in that case. The Harpoon I'm seeing it as a more reliable version of the WE Relic Trident without the building destroying and terrain denying possibly without being one-use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 While you're here Slips, double-headed axe for Khârn - a bit excessive for a Scion to make? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 If its presented as a Gift, I dont see why they wouldn't take his weapon preference into account? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Fair enough. Raktra and I are still both conflicted as to whether it looks appropriate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 I mean, double headed axes are mostly ceremonial weapons in real-world use. But we're not in the real world so you get more carnage per swing with 2 heads :p The real question is: what did he do to deserve the weapon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Err... damn, I haven't written that. What do you consider a suitable deed? Was thinking something like he relieved a bunch of Scions who'd been swamped by enemy troops, at severe risk to him and his men. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well, have the Shepard's and Scions ever in combat together? If so, what sort of "Well, that went above and beyond our expectations" type deal did he do? :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I'm working on the basis that they must have done at some stage, given that the Scions in their dispersed state will have worked with most of the Legions, and the two are inclined to get on well together. Come to think of it, my fluff regarding the Shepherds' breakaway implies that they worked together before Raktra was found. Edited October 18, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo: "The Grasp of the Abyss" or something, IDK: (~75pts) The Grasp are multiple sets of manipulator arms that link directly to the bearers neural system. They are of unparallelled construction and complexity, its neural link clearly the product of Dark Age technology with the control over the limbs putting to shame all but the most advanced, arcane and unique counterparts found within the Mechanicum's highest echelons. That such an item would not be in their hands has garnered the ire of a few Archmagi towards the Scions but the repute of the Legion's Primarch and its ties to the Legio Cybernetica has left this ire unable to be acted upon.' The Grasp can only be equipped by an Independant Character model with the Legiones Astartes: Scions Hospitalier rule and are comprised of a Machinator Array, Four Servo-Arms (each granting a +1 to the Battlesmith roll to a maximum of 2+), a Narthecium, a Hand Flamer and Plasma Pistol. Additionally, they grant the wearer the Bulky Special Rule or, if in terminator armour, the Very Bulky Special Rule. A model with this item may not equip or must not be equipped with a Jump Pack, Scout Armour, Cameleoline, Space Marine Bike or Space Marine Jetbike. Or something. Edited October 18, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Or something. This. Definitely this Just at a glance this would give 4 S8 attacks, 2 S5 attacks (all 6 at AP2), a 2+ repair roll, +1 Toughness, a flamer, hand flamer, inferno pistol and a plasma pistol. As well as Night Vision and Feel No Pain... Erm no. Not for all the points in the world I could see a unique Machinator array working though. Maybe with a pair of servo arms and the weapons. Something more like this perhaps?: Grasp of the Abyss (~40 points?) The Grasp are multiple sets of manipulator arms that link directly to the bearers neural system. They are of unparallelled construction and complexity, its neural link clearly the product of Dark Age technology with the control over the limbs putting to shame all but the most advanced, arcane and unique counterparts found within the Mechanicum's highest echelons. That such an item would not be in their hands has garnered the ire of a few Archmagi towards the Scions but the repute of the Legion's Primarch and its ties to the Legio Cybernetica has left this ire unable to be acted upon.' The Grasp can only be equipped by an Independant Character model with the Legiones Astartes: Scions Hospitalier rule and provides the following benefits: The model gains the Battlesmith special rule. A model that already has the Battlesmith rule may add +2 to any repair roll results. The Grasp incorporates a Narthecium, Hand Flamer and Plasma Pistol. A model equipped with The Grasp may make two additional attacks per turn in close combat ass well as any they would normally be eligible to make. This is done using the weapon profile shown below: The Grasp of the Abyss Name Range Strength AP Type The Grasp of the Abyss - 8 2 Melee, Unwieldy Edited October 18, 2016 by Grifftofer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Eh I was under the Impression you could only ever get 1 servo-arm attack regardless of the number you had on the model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm not sure. The only things that are comparable would be the Machinator Array, which provides 2 attacks as a whole or possibly the Servo Harness in 40k, which uses different mechanics (IIRC). I guess it was never really intended to be tested as no-one has the option to take a second servo arm anywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4535803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 At this point, I'm pretty much ok with the version you went with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4538963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 That takes care of the Scion relic. Were you going for a more beneficial version of the Ancients RoW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4539814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I got a sudden burst of inspiration, and in a fit of mad sketching...this happened. http://i.imgur.com/6DL2HgT.jpg Grifftofer, Nomus Sardauk, Kelborn and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4549905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4549909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) By the power of Grayskull... Edited November 1, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Well I'm happy to see my concept of a full-visor helmet works, despite it having been shot down for the Nightguard ^^ Really awesome Drak' ^_^ Still obviously Power Armour, but with a more futuristic vibe that works. Perhaps the back pack vents could be slightly more pronounced? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Well I'm happy to see my concept of a full-visor helmet works, despite it having been shot down for the Nightguard ^^ Really awesome Drak' ^_^ Still obviously Power Armour, but with a more futuristic vibe that works. Perhaps the back pack vents could be slightly more pronounced? I thought we'd felt it wasn't quite right for the Nightguard. This was certainly Slips' idea well before the Nightguard were even a thing. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Heck, the sketch should go in the first post, I reckon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Well I'm happy to see my concept of a full-visor helmet works, despite it having been shot down for the Nightguard ^^ Really awesome Drak' Still obviously Power Armour, but with a more futuristic vibe that works. Perhaps the back pack vents could be slightly more pronounced? I thought we'd felt it wasn't quite right for the Nightguard. This was certainly Slips' idea well before the Nightguard were even a thing. Oh, didn't mean to imply anything ^_^ It's just I got the impression people thought it would look silly, and in actual fact it looks AWESOME!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Nice to see that you guys like it! @Lord Thorn: The description I got for Pionus's armor while digging around in the Stories thread stated that he lacked a conventional power pack. I did something more like Conrad Curze's armor, so the vents are integrated into the back. Doctor Perils and Slips 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/10/#findComment-4550353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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