bluntblade Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Had a thought. How viable are chainblades as underwater weapons, and if they aren't, how about the Scions adopt the vibro-blades used by the Lightning Bearers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4561482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Make the engine housing waterproof and a chainblade is as good as any. Water would help keep the weapon cooled too as well as dislogde and flaky meaty bits and disolve any liquids. Only problem would be the drag created by the whole thing spinning meaning that their motors would probably require more repair over time. To me Vibro weapons, at least conceptually, are so close to being Power Weapons (look at 40k Transonic Weapons) that there'd be no real distinction rules wise. Still, could be interesting fluffwise even if they end up just being chain weapons with a different name rules wise. Having weapons that vibrate ultrasonicly might not the the best thing to have underwater when near materials like Glass which could shatter. Edited November 14, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4561490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Very true Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4561804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Had an idea for an artwork of the Scions on Laeran, kinda Horus Rising vibe but with them emerging from the sea onto dry land, with either Antonidas or Pionus beckoning them onwards. Also either some Titans of Gojira or Knights of Toho looming over them. Also, much volkites and whatever other guns the Scions favour. Actually, maybe have it side-on. I do also have a question about the Phantoms - do their helmets vary at all from the regular Scions look? Maybe one of these could be the basis for theirs? I guess the same question goes for the Depthstriders. For the Actual Primarch, think Curze, less spikey with no blood, Smooth Plates, 40k Grav-gun style generators on the forearms and calves and a bigger one in the middle of the back. No Visible backpack power supply. For the helmet, think more along the lines of: Something cold, dehumanizing, impersonal and emotionless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I'd go with the first for the Phantoms. Maybe some of them paint a Skull onto their faceplates Night Lords style. For the Depthstriders, they're Terminators in Homemade Cataphractii so either the helmet is instead just an armoured visor that connects the chest protrusion-thing to the one above their head: Or its something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Like those mini-submersible things? http://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WASP-oceaneering-copy-x640-640x482.jpg Or maybe an astronaut would be a better comparison. Maybe skulls is a little too Grave Stalker-y. Plus I feel it would jar a bit with the Scions' overall vibe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Yeah, kinda like an Astronaut helmet and the skulls might be a bit much, true, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Does the Qarith Prime idea get a nod, though? I may attempt a sketch once I have a solid idea for the appearance of the Knights, Depthstriders and Phantoms. Do the Scions favour any particular types of gun, besides bolters? Oh Drak, we have so many orders to place... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Yeah, the Scene is fine for me. Honestly, as long as its a Bolt or Beam/Energy weapon it should be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Ooh, lascannons :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 *Slams open doors* You rang? I think I need a break from doing only character drawings. So...should I sketch out a concept for the Depthstriders before tackling the scene on Laer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Depthstriders shouldnt be that hard: Waterproof and more Aerodynamic Cataphractii :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 And maybe some thoughts on how Toho's Knights might be modified to work underwater. I thought we had the Depthstriders in Tartaros? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 They've been Cataphractii from the get-go since its the tougher of the suits :p For the Knights, I wouldnt know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 *knocks on door* Hello? For the Knoghts I would say a bit more, smaller armor plates to be more flexible and waterproof. Furthermore it would look more like a Samurai armor either overlapping plates. Heads look like the demonic Samurai helmets. St least the Order ones. And the exhaust pipe should be modified. Maybe more like thermal than exhausts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Also, possibly a larger pilot capsule to accommodate an Ejection system? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 They've been Cataphractii from the get-go since its the tougher of the suits :p For the Knights, I wouldnt know. I thought Tartaros was best of both? Indomitus being fast as Tartaros but not as tough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 They've been Cataphractii from the get-go since its the tougher of the suits :p For the Knights, I wouldnt know. I thought Tartaros was best of both? Indomitus being fast as Tartaros but not as tough I think he's right, I recall something similar myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 They've been Cataphractii from the get-go since its the tougher of the suits :p For the Knights, I wouldnt know. I thought Tartaros was best of both? Indomitus being fast as Tartaros but not as toughI think he's right, I recall something similar myself. Seems it's actually faster than Indomitus, but no word on how it compares against Cataphracti in terms of toughness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Cataphractii is a 4++ vs Tartaros and Indomutus' 5++ Also, their entry had cataphractii from the moment I created them oh so long ago :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Aha. Fair enough. When their appearance is fleshed out properly, I'll add it to Laeran. Will the Phantoms' armour differ much from regular Scions, beyond the colour and jump packs? Edited November 17, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I dont thinkf it would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4564785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Very WIP, but I thought I'd share: http://i.imgur.com/GbZ9GVr.jpg Slips, Kelborn, Nomus Sardauk and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4573650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Dude Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4573781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Dude +1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312235-alternate-legion-the-scions-hospitalier/page/11/#findComment-4574113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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