Praefectus Invictus Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If it was common knowledge that Hectarion had a daemon shard inside him, Jackel would feel extreme distrust towards him, and his legion. The XVIIIth have a special hate for mutants, extending to psykers and "Daemon sharded primarchs" . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hmmm. ... I would think icarion could know it and he tries to turn hectarion. i think because of the ghodt crusade, He knowst the most about deamons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I was thinking about which of Hectarions brothers would know that he still had fragments of the Bloodthirster in his mind. The names that immediately sprung to my mind were Alexandros, Pionius and Dear'dd. This would help with making Hectarion closer to those three, helping to make them the four closest primarchs. I'm actually surprised so many people say they'd be willing to help. With the rampant fear of the unknown within the Imperium, I'd expect anybody knowing about a DAEMON SHARD inside someone's mind would feel extreme distrust at best. I'd see something more akin to people calling him a changeling or possessed, and trying to burn him for that. While I don't think it's a good idea to go that far, I'd say you might want one of the Primarchs to know about the shard, and feel extreme distrust for Hectarion because of it, even if he never acts on that knowledge because of instructions from his father. An interesting twist though could be that this same Primarch could eventually be one of the insurrectionists, who then falls to Chaos: since he still knows of the bloodthirster in Hectarion's mind, he can try and turn him too (like Lorgar trying to turn Sanguinius), but of course eventually fails. If Azus knew, he would most certainly be fairly put off, and perhaps even assign members of his legion to keep watch over Hectarion. He's not very trusting. At all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Seeing as it's going to come out during the insurrection, perhaps Azus could find out that way and then assign Dune Serpents to watch over Hectarion? It could be an ewtra cause for friction between the remaining loyalists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Writing time! I might have it so that some of the Eagle Warriors, or possibly Alexos himself (who Azus is close to) egg him on to distrust Hectarion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 From his position on the roof, Azus peered in through the windows at the Mycenor, one hand hovering over his rifle. Heavy, undisguised footsteps announced someone else’s presence. Taking a deep breath, Azus unsheathed his scimitar and leapt to his feet, flicking his wrist towards the intruder’s throat. His assailant deftly caught the blow, and blocked the next lightning fast strike aimed for his kneecap. “You really have to stop doing that, brother,” Alexos said. “You’re a hard man to find.” “Thank you,” Azus said smugly, before embracing his brother. “I pride myself on it.” “You certainly have taken a liking to lurking on rooftops, baby brother. Why are you up here?” Azus simply glanced at Hectarion in response. “Ah. Do we have a problem with The Crimson Lion?” he asked, parodying Hectarion’s booming voice. “In truth, so do I. Too tough for his own good. And lately he seems a little… off. Rumour is that he has an illness of the mind, a parasite or some such.” “Come to think of it, Alexos, he has been strange to me ever since I met him. As if there was something lying beneath the surface,” Azus replied, his paranoia beginning to kick in. He hand moved back toward his rifle. “Yes, brother,” Alexos said, smirking inwardly. “He is no lion. He is but a rabid dog, the raging hound of our father. I fear upon what he will be set next. The way I see it, baby brother, is that no one is to be fully trusted, not now and not ever.” Azus nodded. “No friends but each other.” “Yes, baby brother,” Alexos said, turning to wipe away a single tear. “No friends but each other.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I like that Alexos sounds as if he is mocking Azus with "Baby brother", it fits Alexos perfectly to make others seem small Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yeah, it works as both affection and mockery. Thought it worked with what I knew of his character Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Lets just be honest... Alexos is a :cuss xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 On a separate note, do we know who the smallest/largest primarchs are? I'm using the Age of Sigmar (yes I did stoop to that level) Paladins as a base, making for some pretty stumpy dudes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I believe that we agreed Dear'dd was the tallest and Alexandros was the smallest. In between that, Hectarion is quite close to Dear'dd in height, being only marginally shorter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Damn. This has just reminded me that I have an old 54mm power armoured Inquisitor model that would make for a pretty good base for a Terminator Primarch. Should'a gone that route instead :S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Daer'dd doesn't mind because he's seen similar situations on Huron with Naagloshi (skinwalkers) and Wiindaago (flesh eaters/cannibals) he's always been very steeped in his cultures metaphysical beliefs. But he also believes he can help with a combination of science and the arcane. But most he just loves and sees the good in Hecatarion so he embraces that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Ohh and I did the scaling for Daer'dd on the table top he should be about .75" shorter than a standard Dreadnought and about as bulky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Niklaas is among the larger primarchs as well. Not as heavy or as tall Daer'dd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Alexos is around the middle of the road. Not super tall, but certainly not the smallest. He has a wide chest/shoulder but on the slim side arms and legs. A bit like angron Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Gwalchavad is long an slender. If Russ was the wolf, Gwalchavad was the panther Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Put Raktra at the bottom of the top quarter. So like, 5th tallest or something. Pretty top heavy, too. I'll try and make a likeness of him on Soul Calibur or something and post the pic up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Okay, here goes: Lower: Alexandros Koschei Middle: Azus Alexos Top: Raktra Daer'dd ?Gwalchavad? Niklaas Hectarion How about PMing me so I can edit this post with all the heights, so as not to clutter up the thread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 edit wrong thread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 I would like to point out that Lorgar didn't try to corrupt Sanguinius because he knew it'd be pointless. Since Jade is Chinese, put him on the lower end of the spectrum. Considering Pariahs' anti-daemon aura, I can see Hectarion being wary of Jade since it probably hurts to be next to him. Or, Jade forces the shard to be silent. Thus, Hectarion may enjoy being around Jade, however, being the antsocial scientist he is, this vexes Jade. Combine that with Jade's distrust of the Warp, and there's a rocky relationship here either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I would like to point out that Lorgar didn't try to corrupt Sanguinius because he knew it'd be pointless. Since Jade is Chinese, put him on the lower end of the spectrum. Considering Pariahs' anti-daemon aura, I can see Hectarion being wary of Jade since it probably hurts to be next to him. Or, Jade forces the shard to be silent. Thus, Hectarion may enjoy being around Jade, however, being the antsocial scientist he is, this vexes Jade. Combine that with Jade's distrust of the Warp, and there's a rocky relationship here either way. I thought Lorgar believed he could convince Sanguinius but Horus knew it was pointless... Oh well, wrong about my references twice in one day... Stereotypes much ! Seems logical enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Actually, Horus made a small attempt but quickly gave up on the idea after a conversation with Sanguinius. Erebus was the diehard believer that Sanguinius could be corrupted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Aaaaah, that's it ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I think it probably ought to hurt Hectarion to be in the presence of his pariah brothers as that would make sure their were some of his brothers he is certain not to get on with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312239-tale-the-reunited-family/page/6/#findComment-4155554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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