Caillum Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Rather than taking phased plasma-fusils, why not upgrade those Thallax to Ferrox? Meshes nicely with their heavy chainblades. I'd also focus your Destructor units - grav imploders in one unit and irad in the other. The unit doesn't have spilt fire - you may want the AP3 irads to shoot at MEQ and the AP2 imploders at TEQ. Same point for the Macrocarid - irad sponsons work nicely with a Mauler on the top. Extra armour is advised on your Triaros. Don't want them to be Stunned. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4760676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Thanks Callum. Don't macroanid have machine spirit so its not a prob. The grav imploder just looks awesome haha. Good call on the extra armour I can easily trade some points for that. I've run the descructors as mixed squads twice before and both times worked great. I don't want the grav squad or irad squad to end up against targets the don't like or are wasted against so I find it quiet balanced like that. Mine are all magnetised so not a issue if need to change around. As the thallax are deepstriking I want a gun on them to put a bit of firepower down when lands. Chain blades are there as these may end up in combat as plan on landing in oppenents zone to get the objectives there. Caillum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4760866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So what if any upgrades do people take on thallax?. Chainblades?melta bombs? Are either worth it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4787631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So what if any upgrades do people take on thallax?. Chainblades?melta bombs? Are either worth it?Being on the receiving end in that matter I strongly recommand Multimelters. LtDan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4787679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Got six with 2 mm Six with 2 thrusters Six with 2 plasma Its more if any upgrades are worth it. Does the chainblades help if not with ferrox upgrade?. Only one melta bomb can be used so is 5 points each worth it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4787828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Got six with 2 mm Six with 2 thrusters Six with 2 plasma Its more if any upgrades are worth it. Does the chainblades help if not with ferrox upgrade?. Only one melta bomb can be used so is 5 points each worth it? I'd stick with one MM per three dudes. _IF_ they have to kill a vehicle in CC they're more than capable to do that with their S5 punches of death. ;) Edited June 19, 2017 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4788912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Multimeltas are a poor weapon for Thallax as covered several times. Fusils are best and thrusters can do work (although are overpriced). Meltabombs are not worth it either, IMO. I do throw in a chainblade or two per squad, it helps finish off the occasional light vehicle if their S6/7 shooting didn't do the job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4789161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 As said weren't really taking about the weapons. More the upgrades. I no thallax always get a slating. Don't really care. I found thrusters worked the best for me. Just asking on if found chainbladss and mb worth it.don't really plan on getting them in combat much Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4789199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Multimeltas are a poor weapon for Thallax as covered several times.Why? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4789351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 One shot, bs4 and alot of ac about(meta dependant). Tho I still think they have there uses myself. Deep striking units behind vechiles etc with a djinn skien +1bs bonus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4789411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 When shooting at rear armor of most AoD vehicles, the multiple shots from a plasma fusil are more lethal than the single melta shot. Also it invites you to get closer to the enemy, which is the last place Thallax need to be. Most of the "Thallax are crap" complaints come from those who try to use them as Drop pod space marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4790873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 So are hoplites worth it over grav myrmidon secutors?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4792296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 And maxed out units of thallax. Just thinking of using something differnt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4792322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 So are hoplites worth it over grav myrmidon secutors?? Absolutely. Being Troops is a huge deal, along with being about half as expensive. With Secutors, I think the way to go would be mix a grav gun with a plasma fusil. That way they stay relatively cheap (for Myrmidons), and they can clean up non-TDA infantry when they're not popping vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4799033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I've got 20 hoplites on the way to put use too. Stick them in a triaros I guess?. I fell the destructors are better anti infantry tho so might as well leave the secutors to anti armour with just grab? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4799315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I've got 20 hoplites on the way to put use too. Stick them in a triaros I guess?. I fell the destructors are better anti infantry tho so might as well leave the secutors to anti armour with just grab? Yeah definitely mech them up, they benefit a lot from a transport. Triaros is good, Arvus Lighter also works if you wanna go full madman mode in the enemy DZ. Destructors are the better Myrmidon class sadly, Secutors are a bit underpowered and overcosted by comparison. But yeah, if you are taking Secutors, going full grav gun is a good way to deal with enemy vehicles. Before Vultarax came out, people used to QQ non-stop about grav Secutors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4800630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'm running zero bots in my mech so no vulTarax. qq? I do want a light or two. Just got to sort them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4801488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Anyone use the Macroarid? Or is it just outclassed by the triaros? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4806573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niightcloak Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 more a heavy combat vehicle with a little bonus transport capacity than a real transport extremly survivable, good weapons, no assault vehicle, expensive my opponents hate it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4806724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Macroarid is a great tank that can carry a few passengers. It really should be a dedicated transport option for HQ Magi, Heavy slots are pretty valuable in Mechanicum. It's great for trolling people with rad-engine sponsons and Scouting/Outflanking into range. You probably only want to take the one. Triaros is a great transport with a bit of anti-infantry output, and hilariously powerful Ramming. They're best in multiples so you can screen their AV12 flanks and make opponents rage with discount flare shielded Land Raiders essentially. Secutarii Hoplites and Adsecularis love Triaros, it solves their mobility and fragility issues, and its cheap enough to not make the whole package too expensive. I've seen them used to great effect against even heavy anti-tank firepower, they just refuse to die and deliver Mechanicum light infantry very well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4806792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'm building one macro atm. Will be getting a second one. Great for reserve manipulation/outflanking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4806951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Magnetize the Macrocarid sponson weapons. If you use it as a transport for your Magos, you can give the lascannons AP1 and tank hunter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4810908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Yeah ill prob do that tbh. Ouch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4811221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niightcloak Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Isnt the ap1 and tankhunter just for 1 weapon not 1 unit/model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4821168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Your right nightcloak but even a single ap1 sunder lascannon is ouch. Can make them twin linked Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313500-hh10-mechanicum-tactica/page/40/#findComment-4821453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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