simison Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Good points, and thanks for the info. It occurs to me that the Xana battle offers a solid look at Imperium versus Mechanicum void battles, so that should be something in mind as we detail this conflict. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) That's contrary to the impression Lords of Mars gives, however, given that When the Ark gets boarded by a pretty much unstoppable wave of adaptive crystal soldiers, those on board the Ark give a very spirited defense Furthermore the Abyssii were always envisioned as a far more war-like sect, with a much larger than average percentage of Myrmidons and Ordo Reductor priests. This is part of the reason why they end up getting on with the Berserkers (until the Insurrection) Edited May 17, 2017 by Talonair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 By the way gwal bought thr cease fire with giving his mask for studies and I can see him giving himself as some kind of hostage to prevent the abyssi from blowing the drowned into pieces. Thst he has called for alexandros as diplomat is a thing the abyssi don't need to know Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 That gives Mortera and Gwal a lot of time to chat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Okay, I'll add that in with a caveat. How about the mask be part of the negotiation process and the hostage situation be the reason for the cease fire? That way, Gwal helps at both stages instead of just with the ceasefire. Edited May 17, 2017 by simison Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Yes. That is a gold idea. Mortera grows curious while gwal visite her and she wants to study this technology which allows to Contain and redirect the pariah power. Can we have a test of arms in it AS well? Gwal vs an chosen chympion to show the might of a primarch? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 A test of arms I think would be best after the diplomacy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4745793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 If discovery occurs that late, would there be any reason for Abyssii to cater to both the Sheoherds and Berserkers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4748791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Abyssii wouldn't be opposed to catering to them both, certainly, and if the Shepherds are struggling for supplies (on account of them being disowned by Raktra), Mortera would see it as an opportunity to secure the future support of the Shepherds by supplying them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4749045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The Shepherds would be provided for. The main issue is that Raktra would never countenance sharing resources with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4749046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thing is, would the Shepards even need the Abyssii's supplies when they have the entire Auretian Technocracy supplying them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4749048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Oh the Technocracy are supplying the Shepherds? Never mind then The Shepherds would be provided for. The main issue is that Raktra would never countenance sharing resources with them. Fair point also. It does turn the Shepherds fleeing to Nox after Raktra's entry into the Insurrection more of a desperate act, then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4749050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Oh the Technocracy are supplying the Shepherds? Never mind then As far as I recall. They were the ones who peacefully brought the Technocracy into the Imperium. Edited May 21, 2017 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4749209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 What planets are in the Nox system? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Oh the Technocracy are supplying the Shepherds? Never mind then As far as I recall. They were the ones who peacefully brought the Technocracy into the Imperium. And the Iron Bears. The Technocracy later forge links with Abyssii to ward off the threat of Kelbor-Hal annexing their tech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Oh the Technocracy are supplying the Shepherds? Never mind then As far as I recall. They were the ones who peacefully brought the Technocracy into the Imperium. And the Iron Bears. The Technocracy later forge links with Abyssii to ward off the threat of Kelbor-Hal annexing their tech. Do they? I haven't been informed of this Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 It's somewhere in Stories Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Right. The Technocracy aren't part of the Mechanicum are they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Nope. Hence Daer'dd's concerns and Kelbor-Hal's dislike of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Hmmm. I will need to think on what Mortera's stance on them would be then. My gut instinct is that she would not favour them either Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 And my question about the Nox system? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Oh right, sorry. There's Nox itself, obviously. Sulis is the system's agri-world that feeds the forge world, and Minerva is a gas giant. There's an asteroid belt between Nox and Minerva, and some dead worlds between Sulis and their star, and out past Minerva that are used primarily for mining and weapons testing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 What's the outermost planet called? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Semotus. Latin for Isolated. It's a very long way out from the star, hence the name Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4750585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 So I believe I have figured out some changes to the Myrmidon Custos. I'm going to remove the 'Decapitation Strike' rule from their axes, and give them some options for melee weapons. The basic ideas thus far are: An AP3 two-handed weapon with sweep attack, a spear with counter-attack and/or haywire (to play more into the defensive role), and/or some polearm or sword carrying x2 strength and unwieldy. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313550-io-the-mechanicum-abyssii/page/9/#findComment-4751662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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