zedmeister Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Says who? I have not seen that restriction. Says the Leviathan Dedicated Transport options (bolded the important bit): "A Leviathan Dreadnought Talon numbering a single Dreadnought may select a Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod or a Kharybids Assault Claw as a Dedicated Transport. Note that owing to its size, it may not be transported in other types of Drop Pod." Sheesh Mode and 01RTB01 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 How small a table are we talking about here? Can you bring a Deathstrike missile? You could go by majority strength on a per unit basis. That doesn't speed this nutty rolling up though ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @bulba: My squad sarges are always in Artificer anyways its never really been an issue for me to find 10 points for stuff since I usually play at 3k+ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Looks like I will get one with a Storm Cannon or two then... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 One heavy flamer, one Volkite. Cook and Crisp all your enemies :D Cadmus Tyro 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Says who? I have not seen that restriction. In the rules :p dread pod or kharybdis only for transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 For fast dicing, roll the first strength test for all models, and then roll those which pass individually. Brofist and Flint13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4248762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xera32 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The chance of rolling 4 or under on 2d6 is 6/36, so if your opponent is fine with it, just roll 1d6 and they pass on a 1. That covers most things, if you are htting t3, roll 1 die each, and roll a second die for each 1 and 2 (how i do mass armourbane on low av). For things that are tougher you will be getting so few hits doing 1 at a time is fast enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4249260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The chance of rolling 4 or under on 2d6 is 6/36, so if your opponent is fine with it, just roll 1d6 and they pass on a 1. That covers most things, if you are htting t3, roll 1 die each, and roll a second die for each 1 and 2 (how i do mass armourbane on low av). For things that are tougher you will be getting so few hits doing 1 at a time is fast enough. That's a really good idea actually... But I still like making them roll all those dice xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4249375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Sure is. It doesn't matter in my oppinion if ya roll one or two dice per model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4249395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I like the heavy flamer options even though the volkites are cool for over watch. It'll make anyone think twice assaulting you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4250207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 How are people finding theirs? I am debating should I get one or not? With grav flux, phospex and drop pod, it's 370pts. Like a knight! He comes down, kills 1 squad for sure! Then next turn, draws a lot of fire power to kill pod, and then maybe him. He can then try to kill more stuff, be it tanks or infantry. I am just not sure will he earn his points back? Or is it better to have 2 contemptors in pods for those points? You can also take Typhoon for his price, who is guaranteed basically to earn his points back. Decisions, decisions... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4251804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Honestly, I think I prefer it to a knight. It's a lot cooler and arguably similar if not more Dakka. Also much fluffier, plus in the M31 we can't just ally in a solo knight :) The fact he can take a pod basically moved him waaaay up from his already high position on the list for me. Imagine being on the receiving end of two of these, turn one. Yes it's 6/700 pts, but between two lots of Phosphex, Grav and even some Volkite/ Flamer and two Melta guns - something I'd going to HURT. A drop pod is basically a void shield with a bolter too! WOOHOO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4251826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Once we know the melta weapon rules I'm tempted to take a second. I'd far rather two leviathans than one leviathan, one deredeo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4251870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Once we know the melta weapon rules I'm tempted to take a second. I'd far rather two leviathans than one leviathan, one deredeo. Why not all three :D DREAD POWERS ACTIVATE. Honestly at this point I'm surprised there's not some sort of power rangeresque mini titan we can make by combining 5 dreads... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4251898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Once we know the melta weapon rules I'm tempted to take a second. I'd far rather two leviathans than one leviathan, one deredeo. Ha? What melta weapons rules? He has meltagun in claw, is there something I am missing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4251998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I can see running a Grav/Phosphex Leviathan and a pair of Contemptors as a podded assault wave. Should nuke a vehicle and a squad of your choice, create a lot of no-go area between the pods and templates, and provide cover for the rest of your army. I like the heavy flamer options even though the volkites are cool for over watch. It'll make anyone think twice assaulting you! Heavy flamers are better at overwatch than volkite. Anything scared of 4 volkite shots will certainly be scared of two heavy flamers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Once we know the melta weapon rules I'm tempted to take a second. I'd far rather two leviathans than one leviathan, one deredeo. Ha? What melta weapons rules? He has meltagun in claw, is there something I am missing? Look at the Forgeworld bulletin (theres a thread in the news and rumors section) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The new weapon being melta-based is conjecture (since when are mutli-meltas green?). Wouldn't mind the option, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's definitely melta, trust me :) (I did state this ages ago as well...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I trust no one and am suspicious of most. I suppose it does kind of look like that Tau supremacy suit's mega fusion gun that looks like half a dozen strapped together. if it's potent enough, I would definitely add a dedicated melta/drill variant, which would resolve the dilemma I'm having of whether to arm the grav bombard guy with a claw or a drill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Andy Hoare said weeks ago on his FB page there was going to be a new melta arm for the Leviathan that he couldn't show yet, and hinted that other weapons might be at the future if the Leviathan was successful enough. Preeettty sure this is that melta arm. Learn to trust man, let us in I was honestly kind of hoping it was literally going to be a Magna-Melta for the S8 5" blast :P It kinda looks like 6 meltaguns strapped together... it'd be nice if it has at least 18" range or shoots 6 meltagun shots or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Like I said in that thread, I hope it's armour bane instead of Melta in this ceramite Milennium... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Ehh Even if its Melta, Knights can't take Armored Ceramite. Give it a Drill + Melta Arm, put the Knight between a rock and a hard place by making it face its Shield Away from the Levi when it pods down (if you can), stay inside, Melta Blast it once + Melta Gun if possible. T2 Hop out. Melta It again, charge and smack the thing at I5 before it even gets to strike back. 6 Hullpoints might've just vaporised at that point. And unlike the knight, you still have a 4++ in CC (unless its a Lancer) Edited December 14, 2015 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'd love it if it's multi shot. Lots of shots for vehicle killing rather than a blast. There may be lots of ceramite but lots of s8 can glance to death... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/7/#findComment-4252083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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