Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Multi-shot would be perfect. 3-shot twin-linked multi-melta shots plus another meltagun from the drill, and phosphex for infantry trouble-shooting. Ehh Even if its Melta, Knights can't take Armored Ceramite. Give it a Drill + Melta Arm, put the Knight between a rock and a hard place by making it face its Shield Away from the Levi when it pods down (if you can), stay inside, Melta Blast it once + Melta Gun if possible. T2 Hop out. Melta It again, charge and smack the thing at I5 before it even gets to strike back. 6 Hullpoints might've just vaporised at that point. And unlike the knight, you still have a 4++ in CC (unless its a Lancer) Even a lancer wouldn't like being charged by this thing, unless it managed to sneak in concussive on overwatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Essentially, this thing is shaping up to be a Non-Superheavy Marine only Mini-Knight ...Which we can take 1-3 per slot. Edited December 14, 2015 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There's people on my Facebook calling it dumb and useless. How best to break their legs? ThatOneMarshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Buy a Kharybdis, buy a Leviathan. Shove both down their throats. Or a Dread Drop Pod if you dont want the behemoth that is a Kharybdis. The first time it kills a knight before it gets to strike back is the day they learn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's not useless in 30k. It's 100% worthless in 40k. Still too expensive and slow unfortunately, should defo be a super heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 No I don't mean in-game. I mean in the real world. This is full-on lashed to a cross blasphemy to me. Dreadnoughts are the best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Do you know any shady Italian/Russian/Chinese people? I hear they can do...stuff... for a nominal fee... ... Buuuuuut, outside of plotting to Hire Mafia/Triads to break some legs, how 'bout that Leviathan? Sheesh Mode and Raktra 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The Leviathan is a very heavy chunk of resin. Throwing it could cause severe damage... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'd rather use a Spartan. That thing weighs a fair bit and its size it similar to a brick. Should get similar results. But yeah, those Leviathan Tactics ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There's people on my Facebook calling it dumb and useless. How best to break their legs? Snip them off with those D3 extra wound claws! Honestly though, I love this thing. Drop it in with two Bombards for just a silly old time. Overkill? Probably. But god damned awesome. Anyone would have to divert a lot of resources towards it and it's pod to stop it from being a nuisance. Now, what about Rapiers? You could land next to a bunch, Grav them and suddenly there is no crew left! Not to mention be an utter BASTARD and just land in front of them blocking line of sight/ giving shrouded to anything they want to shoot at beyond the dread pod :D It's safe to get back in the Spartan again. If only I could take a single Pod in the reaping :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Double grav bombard sounds hilarious, but I don't think I'd run without at least one melee weapon. This being a dreadnought (and thus a walker which is way worse than a monstrous creature for no reason at all), you are left with 2 S8 AP- attacks, which I feel is wasting its assault potential. At that point you wouldn't need to devote many resources to it other than blowing up the pod, so you can engage it in melee with pretty much anything and tie it up all game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Personally I'd always keep the claw. It's great anti-MC deterrent, and S10's enough against pretty much all vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 In 40K, consider Houseruling it to Strength D melee on the claws. The Claw has the same rule as the alternative Strength D special rule in 30k (by the way, don't use it unless playing against absolute beginners - it's a scrubs cop out to Strength D countering). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) · Hidden by Slips, December 14, 2015 - He asked for it? Hidden by Slips, December 14, 2015 - He asked for it? Selten this post, please. Edited December 14, 2015 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252242
Raktra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Eh, it's a bit less powerful than that. The 30k S:D does have ID and automatic D6 wounds, remember.Edit: And the re-rolls of dooooom. Edited December 14, 2015 by Raktra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There's people on my Facebook calling it dumb and useless. How best to break their legs?Get your hands on an old-school metal dread, and then you'll hear them moan "I used to be a wargamer like you, but then I took a dreadsock to the knee" klisof, Slips and Sheesh Mode 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4252366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I went ahead and ordered a full Talon of 3 Storm/Grav Levis for my Heavy slots, intending to replace my artillery. And I just noticed their range is 18 - 24. Lol, I'll still field them but I'll have to rethink putting them in the backfield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4253661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Eh, it's a bit less powerful than that. The 30k S:D does have ID and automatic D6 wounds, remember. Edit: And the re-rolls of dooooom. I like 30K D better, the 7th edition version is either underwhelming or you roll a 6 for bananas. Sheesh Mode and Raktra 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4253666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Very short ranged though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4255448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 So... I'm thinking Grav, Drill, Phosphex and Choom for the Ultimate "Come at me" Monster able to melt 2+ and punch out Knights and Spartans if need be. I think the Claw is a bit niche personally... Going to Order in the next day or so - what do we think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4257084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 So... I'm thinking Grav, Drill, Phosphex and Choom for the Ultimate "Come at me" Monster able to melt 2+ and punch out Knights and Spartans if need be. I think the Claw is a bit niche personally... Going to Order in the next day or so - what do we think? Really depends on what you're facing. If you have a lot of Mechanicum around, the Stormcannon/Claw combo isn't bad at going after their monstrous creatures. Likewise in 40K, those are far more prevalent so it sees more use (and can't get the super neat guns anyway). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4257531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I've not really got a meta at the moment. I'm still planning my force and scoping out nearby groups, I'd probably magnetise and get other arms eventually I'm just thinking for my initial order :) Thanks for the insight though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4257756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I think you can't go wrong with phosphex, bombard, claw and choom leviathan. You can go after a pretty good range of targets, and with all those ap2 blasts you'll completely wreck any TEQ. Just one thing to consider, if you're up against knights and armor heavy lists more often then mechanicum or any 40k army where you'd want a claw, the drill is better. It's going to do significantly more damage to something like a knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4260133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheesh Mode Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 So the complaints about the Leviathan are because of Jetbike spam? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4260188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 If jet bikes are an issue tag team your lev with a sicaran. Jink now mother lickers! Mwahaha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/8/#findComment-4260204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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