Slips Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Why cant we make like Dragon Ball and Fu-sion-HA! into Team Breaching Choom? (Does that sound...inappropriate to anyone else ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Breachoom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Here is some of my Fists Breachers. I love them!!! I usually run 20 with an Apothacary and they really are a pain in the butt to deal with generally. bolterandchainsword.com/gallery/image/164410- 20574469019-c9778a17d8-k/][/url] I'll probably get some for my Scars aswell just because I think they will look good haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Breachers With Volkite Drills sign me up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What does a Microwave oven do to rock? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Depends on the power of the microwave*. Mind at that point, they'd just be meltaguns, so kind of moot isn't it? Cool as it is.*I CAN confirm that it makes a nutri-grain bar blow up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What does a Microwave oven do to rock? If the rock is porous it forces any water out making the rock brittle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 A microwave drill can bore through materials such asconcrete and glass, silently and without creating dust.By heating a target to nearly 2,000 ºC, the microwavessoften it up enough for a small rod to be pushedthrough.http://www.impactlab.net/2006/02/12/microwave-drill-technology/Found that after like a google search So I guess a Volkite Drill superheats the surface then fires a rod into it with an explosive blasting Charge that shatters the rock Or .... You superheat some fools power armor cooking them inside and you fire the rod into them to pin them to the wall while you tear them apart with your chainaxe o - o I dunno Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 And now I want to make the Payday Gang but in Power Armour all armed with thermal drills, thanks internet! Let's just hope they don't jam as much as they do in the Payday games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 you would have to sand down the front of their helmets and put harlequin masks on em Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not feeling the Breacher love talking about microwaves if I'm completely honest ;) From feedback, it looks like we have a hankering for a Destroyer-Breacher Deathguard unit. So I'll open the bidding to creation of such a unit here as a focus. Who'd like to have 1st crack at it? May I suggest the originator of said suggestion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4253679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 What do people consider a solid choice in size of unit? I'm going blob sized, 2x 20 strong with Apothecaries as my only Troops. However, I'm thinking of dropping 5 from each squad and adding a 15 man Tactical squad or even 2x Tactical support squads for more plasma firepower. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 For a Squad like breachers who have 1in5 special weapon options, unlike most other 30k units who either dont have the option or force the whole squad to take the same one, using the "breakpoints" for those special weapons to determine squad size I what I usually use in cases like these. So, 10-15-20 would be the sized I'd go for. So that you have 2-3-4 special weapons respectively. If you aren't using special weapons in such squads, then the point is moot and do what your points require. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Entirely dependant on legion and purpose. You want to get the jump on something and make sure it dies fast 1st turn the full 20 with alphas infiltrate plus maxing special weapons should do the trick. Want them to sit somewhere and hinder things/hold objectives, iron hands 10 men and graviton leaving those blast plates all over, and having a smaller unit footprint. As a night Lord player I'd highly consider 20 for talent to murder bonus, with choom because choom. Pop in a forge Lord so you can rad things. All very dependent on the job you want to do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Sign me up. My fledgeling Viking/Wolf shieldwall. http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/dantay_xv/20151125_140539.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Objective holding and general fighting. XIII Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I'm planning on doing two different terminator breacher units with my post-Isstvan Dusk Raiders, but I'm still working out all kinds of stuff in the planning stages in terms of both story, new units in the wake of the massacres, and model/parts to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heron Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hi Team Breacher- I hopefully qualify for the group, as a breacher squad was my second troops choice for my Iron Warriors army. I have actually become so attached to them that I am ordering a second squad of ten and basing my army around them, rather than tac squads (at least for the moment, since I change my mind all the time). Here a picture of my breachers disembarking from their landraider. Since this picture was taken, I have finished their bases, swapped out the leaders power axe for a power fist and ordered some IW decals for their shields. In terms of tactics, here are a few tips I would pass on from my experience. Keep in mind that these are entirely based on taking breachers in an assault vehicle (land raider or dreadclaw) and should not be considered at all relevant or tested for foot sloggers. 1- Breaching charges are usually worth it. For the rare times they have killed some of my unit, more often than not they have taken out a few enemies. We also play it so that they can be used in challenges, which is really fun, and within the rules as written. You usually have a straight 50% chance of hitting, and then, if you have positioned your sgt. well, a better than 50% chance for a miss to scatter onto your opponent. 2- While people think lascutters are a waste, I have always taken them. For an assault unit, its better to have some secondary threats in melee, since that is where breachers are designed to be. I have rarely taken assault weapons for this reason, since most of the time the breachers are in several rounds of melee, vs. one round of shooting. Also, breachers only get one attack anyway after they charge, so the lascutter penalty doesn't really matter. 3- Sgt is best with a power fist, since he can't benefit from an extra attack anyway. 4- Don't underestimate them as an assault unit- Sometimes the dice work in your favor with the invul saves and you have a game-changing melee. This rarely ever happens with tac squads, and its the main reason I have decided to go with two squads for the moment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4254954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 How often do you hit with the lascutter ? Knowing my luck with dice, a single attack on a 5+ would only hit once every three games, and even then I'd roll a 1 to wound Just wondering if it's worth it in general, or only against vehicles and buildings ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Its best when it can autohit. Like for Doors in ZM! Otherwise... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 It isn't a terrible way of damaging Spartans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Titans, for that matter too. You're already hitting on a 5+, might as well make the most of it. And unless they're Rolling 6's to stomp, you're re-rolling those failed armor saves, yo! SHANK EM AT THE ANKLES! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I've been gone for a few days in the wilderness and I find tales of Dusk Raiders with shields and a new idea for Death Guard Breachers? Bully ! On a side note: BCK- why is that Dusk Raider's right arm not red? Hop to it ! I digress. As much as I love my Death Guard (which is a lot), I just don't see them wasting their effort carrying 2m shields around. Who am I kidding? That's AWESOME! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I want in! One of many to come... http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Madoktopus/W30k/imagejpg6_zpsf318223c.jpg and i made this dude for a friend too.. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Madoktopus/W30k/30EE5541-18A6-4A81-97AD-295A69B602C0_zpsndxgewdt.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I've been gone for a few days in the wilderness and I find tales of Dusk Raiders with shields and a new idea for Death Guard Breachers? Bully ! On a side note: BCK- why is that Dusk Raider's right arm not red? Hop to it ! I digress. That praetoer ent no Dusk Raider, that's why. He's part of my VIII Legion Crimson Sons, and the armor is white because in the religious beliefs of his people back on Terra, white is the colour of death and mourning, and well... he's a death bringer. Not to worry, there will (hopefully) be a flood of Dusk Raiders coming from my hobby desk in the near future, including more termies with shields. I'm working on a new Praetor for them at the moment and I think he's gonna be awesome when done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317087-team-breacher/page/6/#findComment-4255249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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