Slips Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) If you're new to 30k for whatever reason and are wanting to get started by getting your hands on the rule books these are them: This Topic will be updated as new books are released. Book 1: Betrayal Contains the old rules and fluff for:Sons Of Horus World Eaters Emperor's Children Death Guard Also contains: Istvaan III Campaign System Zone Mortalis System Book 2: Massacre Contains the old rules and fluff for:Iron Hands Salamanders Word Bearers Night Lords Also Contains: Dropsite Massacre Campaign System Book 3: Extermination Contains the old rules and fluff for:Imperial Fists Raven Guard Alpha Legion Iron Warriors Also Contains: Victory Is Vengeance system Blood In The Void System Book 4: Conquest Contains the rules for:Solar Auxilia Questoris Knights 30k Generic and Army Specific Relics Also Contains: Conquest Campaign System:Strategic Raid City Fight Character Advancement Liberation Mission Relic Hunt Missions etc. Book 5: Tempest Contains the rules for:Ultramarines Updated Word Bearers Titan Legions Imperial Militia / Warp Cults Stormbird Xiphon Interceptor Deredeo Dreadnought Also Contains: Betrayal At Calth Campaign Book 6: Retribution Contains the Rules and fluff for:Blood Angels & 2 Unique Rites of War Dark Angels & 2 Unique Rites of War White Scars & 2 Unique Rites of War Shattered Legions Black Shields Knights Errant Additional Rites of War:10 Generic 1 Per Released Legio Mastodon Tank Legion Delegatus, Praevian and Herald Leviathan Dreadnought Legion Support Quad Launcher (updated Rapier Quad Mortar) Contemptor-Cortus Dreadnought etc. Also Contains: Retribution Campaign Shadow Wars in the Age of Darkness Battles in the Age of Darkness Core Missions Book Seven: Inferno Contains the rules and fluff for: Thousand Sons & 2 Unique Rites of War Space Wolves & 2 Unique Rites of War Talons of the Emperor (Legio Custodes, Sisters of Silence and Ordo Sinister Warlord) Acastus Knight Porphyrion Vulturax Stratos-Automata Karacnos Assault Tank Also Contains: The Fall of Prospero CampaignLegiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List Contains the most up to date rules for: All Generic Legion Units found within Books 1-6 Updates and points rebalances to older units such as Legion Assault Squads A new Unit: Jetbike Skyslayer Support Squadron AVAILABLE DIGITALLY Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Legions Contains the most up-to-date version of rules for:Sons of Horus World Eaters Emperors Children Death Guard Word Bearers Iron Hands Salamanders Night Lords Imperial Fists Iron Warriors Raven Guard Alpha Legion Ultramarines Mechanicum Contains the most up to date rules for:Mechanicum Units from Books 1-5 Crusade Imperialis Army Contains the most up to date rules for:Solar Auxilia Questoris Knights Imperial Militia and Cults A DIGITAL VERSION OF THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE FROM BLACK LIBRARY Horus Heresy Rulebook Contains: Essentially the 7th Edition Warhammer 40k BRB 30k Specific Alterations of the above Edited January 19, 2018 by Slips Pacific81, The_son_of_Dorn, m0nolith and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Neat idea. However, you might want to not hot-link the images directly from the Forge World website. It gobbles up their bandwidth and IIRC it's against forum rules. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Neat idea. However, you might want to not hot-link the images directly from the Forge World website. It gobbles up their bandwidth and IIRC it's against forum rules. True Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Welcome to 30k Slips ;) Nice work though. However I thought for book 6 with the additional RoWs for released legions, it was only 1 more unique, not 2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Just to be sure, I'd bold the "old rules" part of the description on books 1/2/3 etc. I know a couple of people who recently got the early books as all they knew is that it contained rules for thier legions :c Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 In book six it has the rules for an "etc"? How does that play on the field? Halandaar and Dosjetka 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I think the notes/warnings should have a font size a couple of times bigger, just make extra sure people read them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Can anybody advise me as to whether the new Age of Darkness Legions book contains the new Legion specific Rite of War from Book 6? In book six it has the rules for an "etc"? How does that play on the field? I think that depends on whether it's a Level 70 ETC... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Just to be sure, I'd bold the "old rules" part of the description on books 1/2/3 etc. I know a couple of people who recently got the early books as all they knew is that it contained rules for thier legions :c Yeah the rules are updated from the old books and in some cases very, very different now. Tell your friends to get the red book as the updates are always for the better! Edited April 6, 2016 by Ishagu Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 You forgot to include the Book of Lorgar. Everybody needs the Book of Lorgar. ak1508, captainblow, Charlo and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 This'll teach me to try and make a fancy post at 4:30 am right before going to bed @_@ :lol: And yes, the Etc is Elite Tauren Chieftain; you get a sample of their song I Am Murloc in it. MithrilForge and Lanky27 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Can anybody advise me as to whether the new Age of Darkness Legions book contains the new Legion specific Rite of War from Book 6? IIRC, it doesn't, it includes everything new until book 5, and makes some changes and tweaks to rules and units. Billy Butcher 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4356965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I thought the updated LA:CAL red book was "at the printers"? Need to get one, but holding out on the new version Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4357428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Can anybody advise me as to whether the new Age of Darkness Legions book contains the new Legion specific Rite of War from Book 6? IIRC, it doesn't, it includes everything new until book 5, and makes some changes and tweaks to rules and units. That's frustrating, given they were released so close together. Billy Butcher 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4357485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 You may also want to add that people need the 40k rulebook. Sometimes its tricky to play without ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4357724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 I thought the updated LA:CAL red book was "at the printers"? Need to get one, but holding out on the new version That was the AoD redbook which as since been released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4357843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Can anybody advise me as to whether the new Age of Darkness Legions book contains the new Legion specific Rite of War from Book 6? IIRC, it doesn't, it includes everything new until book 5, and makes some changes and tweaks to rules and units. Just to confirm it contains legion rules up to and including book V, so you may still want book VI. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4385502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Crusade Army List slated to be updated in July. It may include the generic Rites from book VI, and maybe the shattered legions/blackshields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4398019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Which book contains the Iron Circle rules sorry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4404396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Which book contains the Iron Circle rules sorry? VI and the new Legions Red Book. Emperor's Furor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4404429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) So just getting into 30k the age of darkness book and retribution would get my shattered legions off the ground wouldn't it? I need to make a fw order soon and I want the books I need but if I'm ordering from fw I'd rather spend more on resin less on paper if at all possible ? Edited June 12, 2016 by Pyroclast91 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4418160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 You'll want to wait for the new Age of Darkness Army List red book (not the Age of Darkness Legions red book). But yes, you'll also need Book VI: Retribution. Pyroclast91 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4418478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I might also suggest grabbing one or two of the HH novels that pertain to your legion. I think having a little 30k fluff knowledge provides a more engaging experience, far moreso than in 40k. Caillum and Pyroclast91 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4418523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroclast91 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 @Caillum Awesome thank you I've been trying to figure out exactly which books I need for a while now they certainly don't make it simple. @Guiltysparc I've read every book I can find that has anything to do with my beloved salamanders both 30k and 40k I actually just finished Deathfire (which was amazing) I've been trying to get ahold of scorched earth and promethean sun for a while now tho damnation of pythos wasn't bad either. Do you have any suggestions regarding good reads about the iron hands and raven guard? They will be the other parts of my shattered legion force and I feel like I don't know nearly as much about them as I do the salamanders so any input would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4418762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I need to wait for the main army list to be updated before i by that one and the legion rules book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321184-new-to-30k-what-books-do-i-need/#findComment-4422111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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