bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Might Horus reach that level in his Chaos-swollen state? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4665705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Works for me, I'm writing it that Warp entities and those suffused with it affects the flesh-sight somewhat. Raktra can't even look at the Emperor directly without pain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4665714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 More rules ideas:  Only the Strong May reroll to wound rolls of 1?  Another idea:  Deamons, we are Brute Force-When using this RoW, successful Invulnerable Saves and Feel No Pain saves against attacks from models with LA(BoU) must be rerolled.  Scions of Madness-Wretched and Desolater Class Contemptor Dreadnoughts become non compulsory troops choices  -Always get hit on a 3+ -Must always sweeping advance and may never volountarily fail a morale check or go to ground -May never take allies or fortifications Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4665768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think the forced re-roll of invulns should be kept VERY rare and should not be an army-wide rule under any circumstance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4665907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Much as it's gonna affect future rules design, I'm not removing/changing the ignores FNP rule. To me, it's a huge part of the Legion's character rules-wise. Â EDIT: Then again, Akarro's "Sire" rule could always grant it instead... Edited February 25, 2017 by Raktra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4666067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 OK, so what the Shepherds call the Somoptis, the people of Uran and later the Berserkers named the Cutter's Sight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4695419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Thoughts for the Blood Boilers - we should try and devise a rule for Vasgotox flesh-eater fluid, seeing as that's canon. Â Do we just have a single Exemplary Battle for the Berserkers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 I think just the destruction of the Hrud? Â I'll work on the fluid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The DG Grave Wardens' rules might make for a good starting point, as they apparently make use of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 And then submit it to FW, aye? Â Remembered we have the one where Raktra goes behind Koschei's back. So how about one where they actually work successfully with another Legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Also, Exemplary Battles blurb:  The Berserkers’ campaign records testify to a Legion reborn as a force for absolute destruction, one that while unpalatable to the propagandists and citizenry, was nonetheless a key part of the Great Crusade. They were a double-edged sword - guaranteed to eradicate even the vilest xenos empire, but liable to crush human civilisations which merely required pacification. Raktra’s murderous spirit led to confrontation with several of his brothers, and many took this as a signal that he saw the Emperor as his only true master. Time would make a cruel mockery of those beliefs, and the tally of conquest a mere prelude to the atrocities the Berserkers would wreak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Everything ends. That is the motto of the Blood Boilers, a brotherhood that exemplifies the very darkest aspects of the Imperial war machine. Formed of the Destroyer cadres of the Berserkers of Uran, the Blood Boilers were often seen as the Emperor’s final solution to a non-compliant world, mixing the disturbing effects of rad and phosphex weaponry with the even more disturbing battlefield habits of the White Devil’s sons.  In most Legions, the deployment of Destroyer cadres is a carefully considered and rarely-employed tactic. The destruction they wreak upon the environment, the toll it takes on the bodies of the Marines in their ranks, and not least of all the psychological effect on the lost cultures of man the Crusade attempts to bring back into its fold, are all incredible costs to consider. Mankind needs the soil to thrive, the Legions need their fighters well, and the Imperium needs its citizens to believe that they are better off back under its rule, for if they do not, what then is the Crusade for?None of this matters to the Berserkers of Uran, for they only truly care about one thing - survival of the fittest. To them, the sheer ruination brought by a Destroyer assault is something almost perversely satisfying, for it proves their strength above all else around them. The land is too soft to contain them, other Astartes are too weak to emulate them, and the lesser mortals are too cowardly to stand before them.  Dominator of the Blood Boilers was Riktus Innorvak, the hand of the Devil, a hulking monster of a man encased in specialised terminator plate and wielding an arsenal of weapons that both exemplifies his Legion and his order. simison and bluntblade 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4714808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 We could have the Berserkers collaborate with the Void Eagles or Predators. Gonna try and come up with some ideas at work today. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4715437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Any edit ideas for that bit above? Made it for the wiki. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4715480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) I thought it was for the Books - it ought to go in there. For the wiki, I reckon it'd work best as a quote, and can't think of any edits I'd make Edited April 21, 2017 by bluntblade Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4715823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Any edit ideas for that bit above? Made it for the wiki. It reads well, though I can't decide whether it'd suit a book or wiki better. Anymore progress on your Riktus conversion? :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4716635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Anyone want to call dibs on having their Legion successfully work with the Berserkers? Wondering about the Lightning Bearers, just to sell the idea that Icarion could exercie some degree of influence over Raktra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4722866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Not a legion, but the Abyssii work quite closely with them until the Insurrection, at which point they only work with the Shepherds (what's left of them) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4723401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Anyone want to call dibs on having their Legion successfully work with the Berserkers? Wondering about the Lightning Bearers, just to sell the idea that Icarion could exercie some degree of influence over Raktra. Raktra turns to Icarion out of desperation after the Battle of Carrion Hill to understand what's going on with his Legion (Old Blood starts doing the real :cuss then), prior to then he's relatively uninterested in him as he views him as pompous. Morrow seems the best option, he's a similarly morose bastard, plus their warfare would work well together - the Drowned pin the enemy in place from all angles, the 'serkers close the kill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4723467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Carrion Hill? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4723842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Something Blind and I are working on :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4723989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 So going through the Prosecution stuff I see no difference between the... what did we have Berserkers calling the Somoptis? Anyway, the spiel for the Prosecution makes it sound like that's what Raktra wants, but it's the thing they,ve already got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4724844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Cutter's Sight. We could play it as the 'serkers keep it a secret at first to avoid being prosecuted for being mutants, so the Prosecution results could help determine if they go public. Or just a typical "build better manz" deal. Wanting to make all Marines as Custodes or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4725263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 i think that would have been identified before the VII even took a name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4725308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Yeah, I was reaching there. Build better manz it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324559-the-berserkers-of-uran-a-thread-from-the-past/page/13/#findComment-4725309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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