Gorgoff Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 As it it meantioned in the core rules. Page 73, last sentence. "Pivoting is always blablabla to prevent it from moving further than allowed." Makes no sense, if ya can make your tournament cheating Mambojambo. ;) With the new FAQ it's clear. But nothing stops the internet from trying to find new loopholes. I don't know how to make a smilie which roles with it's eyes but now would be the perfect time for it. :) Let's try this: Pivot the damn thing and than move it. But hey, maybe I'm wrong with all my trying to have a good time with my friends and don't wanting to squeez as much juice out of the rules to win. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 We should probably wait on this vehicles rules before we get crazy. If it's not assault, my bet, then you won't be charging anyway. Then you may want to block your squad with the vehicle to give then cover anyway. Etc etc. Also then we can continue to disect the FAQ in the rules forum so this thread is mostly Custodes stuff. There might even be a thread on the topic already. I'm phone posting at the moment so it's hard to search/start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 As it it meantioned in the core rules. Page 73, last sentence. "Pivoting is always blablabla to prevent it from moving further than allowed." Makes no sense, if ya can make your tournament cheating Mambojambo. With the new FAQ it's clear. But nothing stops the internet from trying to find new loopholes. I don't know how to make a smilie which roles with it's eyes but now would be the perfect time for it. Let's try this: Pivot the damn thing and than move it. But hey, maybe I'm wrong with all my trying to have a good time with my friends and don't wanting to squeez as much juice out of the rules to win. Wow... This is what it actually says: "Pivoting is always done from the centre of a vehicle to prevent it from accidentally moving further than intended or allowed." Tournament players cheat of course, but it's only upstanding citizens that misquote rules to smear them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 And with that, take it to the Official Rules forum since y'all are now talking about how the Core Game Mechanics work vs Custodes Tactica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'd bet $ it'll be an assault tank. Wouldn't really make any sense otherwise. Hellex_The_Thanatar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'd bet $ it'll be an assault tank. Wouldn't really make any sense otherwise. I really agree, even if the hatch is like the rest door of a falcon/wave serpent. I've always wondered why they were not assault vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Based off that they mirror other grav tanks/rhinos and only hold 5, I would bet on it not being an assault tank, with an actual assault tank variant on it's way. But it's not impossible. It'd be weird considering how it's not designed like an assault vehicle. Unless they just want to patch in an assault vehicle or it has some sort of fancy short range teleportation matrix that can beam them out. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCelticRaven Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 i'm gonna hedge my bets and save for the grav spartan instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd definitely buy a grav spartan. :) The rules for TofE should be out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If it's simply fast skimmer with crew put of 5 it might still be really really good with power of machine. You could go up a lot of board turn 1 still blast away and then hop out for turn 3 chsrge in a good position especially with how survivable custodes are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Say it moves 3" then pivots 3"... they disembark 6" then charge up to 12"... that's potentially 24". Say an average charge is 6-8" that's still up to 14". Hellex_The_Thanatar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I ran a full Custodes list the other day (my friends let me use them as a full army and not just an allied detachment. They were practising for a doubles event, so it was my 2k versus 2 1k lists. My list was: HQ: 5 Custodes with Sword and Board ELITES: 3 Custodes with Sword and Board 3 Custodes with Sword and Board TROOPS: 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears HS: Grav Tank x3 Their list was a combined Death Guard/Sons of Horus list, nothing overly brutal, but quite thematic. The game was pretty fun, I did notice that the lack of Fearless and attacks means the army struggles to get wounds across and can get run down if a round goes poorly. The Sword and Board guys are, unsurprisingly, really resilient. I think I failed more 2+ saves on them than their 4++ rerollables. It seems like the list relies on getting into combat (surprising noone) and grinding the enemy down through raw stat advantage. The resilience is insane, having models be able to shrug off Lascannons and Missiles whilst they close the distance is so refreshing. The battle was pretty brutal, we ended the game with 8 Missile Devastators, 2 Quad Destroyer rapier batteries and a Rhino on their side whilst I had a Grav Tank, my HQ squad (all wounded but all alive), 2 1 man Sword and Board units and a 3 man Spear unit left. 3 Custodes with Spears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I ran a full Custodes list the other day (my friends let me use them as a full army and not just an allied detachment. They were practising for a doubles event, so it was my 2k versus 2 1k lists. My list was: HQ: 5 Custodes with Sword and Board ELITES: 3 Custodes with Sword and Board 3 Custodes with Sword and Board TROOPS: 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears 3 Custodes with Spears HS: Grav Tank x3 Their list was a combined Death Guard/Sons of Horus list, nothing overly brutal, but quite thematic. The game was pretty fun, I did notice that the lack of Fearless and attacks means the army struggles to get wounds across and can get run down if a round goes poorly. The Sword and Board guys are, unsurprisingly, really resilient. I think I failed more 2+ saves on them than their 4++ rerollables. It seems like the list relies on getting into combat (surprising noone) and grinding the enemy down through raw stat advantage. The resilience is insane, having models be able to shrug off Lascannons and Missiles whilst they close the distance is so refreshing. The battle was pretty brutal, we ended the game with 8 Missile Devastators, 2 Quad Destroyer rapier batteries and a Rhino on their side whilst I had a Grav Tank, my HQ squad (all wounded but all alive), 2 1 man Sword and Board units and a 3 man Spear unit left. 3 Custodes with Spears For the fearless issue I would ally in a knight errant! Aren't they all fearless? Add one to a squad you are most likely to have engaged for the added help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Knight Errants aren't fearless. They provide a lot of support and are quality, but not fearless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I can't find the book with the Errants in (i've got it somewhere), can you just add a Knight Errant in, or does it have to be part of an allied detatchment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 HH Retribution page 212 / 213. Takes up an HQ slot of you primary AoD detachment. Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Thanks, until the full list is out, it might be worth putting in one with a Nathecarium to make one squad that little bit more survivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Wait a minute...Doesn't that mean you can use a Knight Errant as your Mandatory HQ? LOOPHOLE FOUND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Ha you guys are killing me, no they cannot be your mandatory HQ nor can the be the warlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Wait a minute...Doesn't that mean you can use a Knight Errant as your Mandatory HQ? LOOPHOLE FOUND! If you want to try Custodes out before Inferno is released (February I think), just ask your opponent if they'd mind letting you run them as a full list with a squad as a HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Grav Land Raider/Spartan for the Emprah's finest: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Legio-Custodes-Coronus-Grav-carrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 And in a few hours, we'll hopefully know the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Unfortunately the Coronus is just max cap 12 and is not and Assault Transport. It's also the only Custodes transport. It's also their only transport, although the Sisters have an Assault Transport (also 12 max cap). I'm guessing we may see list expansions over more books, like with the Mechanicum, but mostly with vehicles in the Custodes' case. Hopefully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Unfortunately the Coronus is just max cap 12 and is not and Assault Transport. It's also the only Custodes transport. It's also their only transport, although the Sisters have an Assault Transport (also 12 max cap). I'm guessing we may see list expansions over more books, like with the Mechanicum, but mostly with vehicles in the Custodes' case. Hopefully? Valdors profile mentions teleported. They will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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