Cryptix Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Well, someone beat me to it. http://www.mediafire.com/file/8ukjwhr4a8x6tet/Titan+Guard.pdfhttp://www.mediafire.com/file/1voouhaka9bctd9/Talons+of+the+Emperor.pdf Mango Polo and N1SB 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Well, I've decided on my first list. Multiples of 3 is a common pattern, 3k: HQ Valdor 275pts Tribune w. Shield, Paragon Spear, Cyber-Familiar, Digital Lasers 275pts TROOPS 6x 3-man Custodian Guard squads with melta bombs 1080pts FAST ATTACK 3x 3-man Agamatus Jetbike Squad with melta bombs & devestators 765pts HEAVY SUPPORT 3x Caladius tanks w. accelerator cannon 585pts The plan is to deploy the tanks and jetbikes and then deep strike the other units to get them up the board. The Tribune is a "hidden" gem. Paragon Spear combined with cyber-familiar and shield means he loses +1 str on the charge (still S6) but gets a 3++ re-rollable. Yum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Well, I've decided on my first list. Multiples of 3 is a common pattern, 3k: HQ Valdor 275pts Tribune w. Shield, Paragon Spear, Cyber-Familiar, Digital Lasers 275pts TROOPS 6x 3-man Custodian Guard squads with melta bombs 1080pts FAST ATTACK 3x 3-man Agamatus Jetbike Squad with melta bombs & devestators 765pts HEAVY SUPPORT 3x Caladius tanks w. accelerator cannon 585pts The plan is to deploy the tanks and jetbikes and then deep strike the other units to get them up the board. The Tribune is a "hidden" gem. Paragon Spear combined with cyber-familiar and shield means he loses +1 str on the charge (still S6) but gets a 3++ re-rollable. Yum. Can you hold spear and shield....? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Can you hold spear and shield....? You can, but you lose the spears charge bonus. It matters more with a standard spear that gives you +1S and ap2 instead of 3, but with the paragon spear you have +1S and ap2 standard. All you lose is an extra strength point on the charge, which is totally worth it for a re-rollable 3++ and -1 to hit for enemies in base contact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Can you hold spear and shield....?You can, but you lose the spears charge bonus. It matters more with a standard spear that gives you +1S and ap2 instead of 3, but with the paragon spear you have +1S and ap2 standard. All you lose is an extra strength point on the charge, which is totally worth it for a re-rollable 3++ and -1 to hit for enemies in base contact. Ehhh the shield says you can't use a two handed weapon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ehhh the shield says you can't use a two handed weapon... The spears are not two handed weapons, merely specialist weapons. The rules for the shield even mentions how it works in combination with a spear, which is exactly how I wrote earlier. Hellex_The_Thanatar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ehhh the shield says you can't use a two handed weapon...The spears are not two handed weapons, merely specialist weapons. The rules for the shield even mentions how it works in combination with a spear, which is exactly how I wrote earlier. Yeah, they seem to have replaced the experimental Guardian spear's Two Handed rule with Specialist Weapon. Means spear & shield is a legit combination (and rightly so - it's super fluffy). As cool as the Tribune is, why take him as well as Valdor? I'd go for either/or. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Wow missed that! Awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TompiQ Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 As cool as the Tribune is, why take him as well as Valdor? I'd go for either/or. Valdor will be my go to HQ due to his warlord trait. However, my standard Tribune build puts out so much damage at I6 while being tanky enough to run as a solo missile unit while Valdor require more care. I guess I just saw him having enough potential to warrant getting him over another MSU squad. Another option is 3 Hetaeron guards w. paragon blades and shields for 285pts. 9 wounds over 4 with EW, however 2+/rr5++ instead of a rr3++, 12 S6ap2 attacks at WS5/I5 vs 7 S6ap2 attacks at WS6/I6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just give them fists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I think a single fist is a good option. It's a handy way to get through Feel No Pain. Custodes are tough enough to comfortably challenge and strike last. The Paragon Blades can get around Feel No Pain on a 6. It depends on if you are happy to trade initiative for strength really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4645827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Intresting to see how people model shield and spear with most of the models two-fisting them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I think a single fist is a good option. It's a handy way to get through Feel No Pain. Custodes are tough enough to comfortably challenge and strike last. The Paragon Blades can get around Feel No Pain on a 6. It depends on if you are happy to trade initiative for strength really. With fists you can punch Dreadnoughts to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pufnstuf Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Anyone know what the Heavy Dreadnought does? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 There's links to the entire list in page 2. That being said it seems they missed some wargear's rules like the illiastus bolt cannon on the jetbikes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I couldn't see rules for the Heavy Dreadnought in the current leak. Gorgoff, don't you think that's a bit risky as the dread could happily instant kill those 95 point models in combat? I'd rather shoot it first, then charge in and melta it if it isn't dead Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf86 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 How does everyone rate the current models that are out from FW compared to what's coming? As in do you think the Pallas is worth getting or better to wait for the jetbikes? Get the Calladius with the accelerator cannon or get the one with the Arachnus blaze cannon? Get the non-assaulty transport or just deep strike with teleporters? I think the Sagittarum bolter guys sound great so will get some of them when they drop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 There's links to the entire list in page 2. That being said it seems they missed some wargear's rules like the illiastus bolt cannon on the jetbikes Oh I missed that those didn't have a profile. Is it the same as the caladius from fw download? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 So we've seen all the unit options, but do we know anything about the actual list rules yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarkaira Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 How does everyone rate the current models that are out from FW compared to what's coming? As in do you think the Pallas is worth getting or better to wait for the jetbikes? Get the Calladius with the accelerator cannon or get the one with the Arachnus blaze cannon? Get the non-assaulty transport or just deep strike with teleporters? I think the Sagittarum bolter guys sound great so will get some of them when they drop. They all seem to be effective for what they do. What you would want should depend on your needs and when they are specific Excel will be there for you :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pufnstuf Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I couldn't see rules for the Heavy Dreadnought in the current leak. Yea same here. Thats why I asked because of the two dread types listed in the leak, none seem to fit with the heavy dread, which is odd since they are showing a ready model, but no rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 So reading right...... The Tribune can be a tank with 2+/3++ re-rollable and still take a Paragon spear or something for fun. Plus Eternal Warrior. Oh and -1 to hit him. Ultimate Primarch tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I couldn't see rules for the Heavy Dreadnought in the current leak. Gorgoff, don't you think that's a bit risky as the dread could happily instant kill those 95 point models in combat? I'd rather shoot it first, then charge in and melta it if it isn't dead If we're talking about the same hetaeron squad, you can't damage it with a paragon blade loadout, (shooting or melee) and are relying on str 8 ap ap 1 amourbane. You get 4 times the amount of attacks with str 10 ap 1 on the charge. the shields make you way hard to hit and you have better than a 4++. Also they're cheaper than the comparative paragon blade squads. How does everyone rate the current models that are out from FW compared to what's coming? As in do you think the Pallas is worth getting or better to wait for the jetbikes? Get the Calladius with the accelerator cannon or get the one with the Arachnus blaze cannon? Get the non-assaulty transport or just deep strike with teleporters? I think the Sagittarum bolter guys sound great so will get some of them when they drop. jet bikes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I still quite like the idea of the beam equipped speeders outflanking and just murdering anything in their way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) So the Hetaeron guard can take a paragon blade but not a paragon spear. Seems a typo... Perhaps? Also wording on the Spear Contemptor implies that if you roll one 6 to hit, ALL of it's attacks are D strength O.O Edited February 5, 2017 by Charlo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/8/#findComment-4646399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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