Sigismund229 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Sorry for the double post. I've written an event into the Lions history back when they were the Blood Wolves called the razing of jurfik: The Blood Wolves had fought in the Great Crusade for scarcely three years when the Emperor ordered them to return to Terra. While in the later years of the Great Crusade, elements of the Halycon Wardens would be recalled to the homeworld for its defence, this was no such honourable recall. Instead, they had been recalled to fulfill a darker purpose. They had been called back to sanction their own homeland. Crowned king of Jurfik, Hakon the Red had soon grown to chafe under the shackles imposed on his rule by the Emperor. Just three short years after the Emperor won him his crown, Hakon declared Jurfik's independence from the newly formed Imperium, slaughtering his Imperial overseers. For four months, the warriors of Jurfik waited, standing ready for when the Emperor's hosts inevitably returned. Finally, as what passed for the Terran winter began to set in, the Emperor's response came and the skies of Terra began to rain fire. The Blood Wolves had come. Rather than launch a conventional assault, the Blood Wolves had decided to launch an all out drop pod assault for maximum shock. So it was that hundreds of drop pods burned their way through Terra's atmosphere and slammed down amidst the outer precincts of Jurk, Jurfik's capital. From out of the drops pods adamantium bellies emerged thousands of roaring legionaries, their bolters screaming and chainblades howling. While the warriors of Jurfik had fought the legions before, those had been the sober warriors of the Fifth legion, not the roaring, bloodthirsty maniacs of the Blood Wolves who now butchered their way through the streets of Jurfik's capital, their gunmetal armour painted red by the blood of those they had slain. Within the space of four hours, King Hakon the Red had been killed and vox messages were being sent to the Third begging them to cease and offering unconditional surrender. However, the Third did not stop. Instead, the slaughter continued for the Blood Wolves rage at this betrayal was only made greater by it being their own people. They felt forsaken, orphaned, homeless and so were determined to enact a bloody revenge, unleashing not only their own implacable anger but also their full arsenal of chemical and nuclear weaponry. By the time the sun began to go down on Terra, Jurfik's hives burned with chemical fire whose choking black smoke rose up to block out the sun. The Blood Wolves lust for blood vengeance had been slaked. I was thinking this could be the event which causes the Emperor's foundation of the Opsequiari? Incidentally, this is also when the Burden first began to noticeably manifest EDIT: it is actually tempting to change their nickname to the Orphaned now... Edited February 18, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 "...drop pods['] adamantium..." I think you're supposed to capitalize 'Sun'. What's the Opsequiari? I like it. Most legions don't retain their Terran roots because of simple neglect. This hammers home that the III Legion essentially burns its roots, which makes them psychologically open to reestablishing themselves on Mycenae. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 "...drop pods['] adamantium..." I think you're supposed to capitalize 'Sun'. What's the Opsequiari? I like it. Most legions don't retain their Terran roots because of simple neglect. This hammers home that the III Legion essentially burns its roots, which makes them psychologically open to reestablishing themselves on Mycenae. The Opsequiari are commissars for the legiones astartes. However, rather than stopping cowardice, their job was to stop legionaries going too far, being too bloodthirsty and, in the Third's case in our 'verse, killing the Burdened before they can pose a problem. In my mind, the IIIrd, having made themselves orphans, look to Mycenae as a new home, explaining the relatively seamless transition from being the Blood Wolves/Orphans to being the Crimson Lions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Also, "Blood Wolves' thirst" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 This: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/space-wolves-field-police.jpg simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Which informs Russ' attempts to bring Angron to heel. He sees the World Eaters slipping into the same excesses. Also, damn that's a nice helm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 On the subject of cool images to come outof Inferno: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/35/Leman_Russ_Sketch.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161027051730 Love this picture of Russ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Add in more scarring and a mouth-plate and boom, Raktra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Change the hair and bits of armour, boom. Hec. Oh and add a ton of tattoos and a beard Edited February 18, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 A thought. Seeing as we have a few pieces of wargear that are more widespread than in canon, how about in book 1 we hve a "BotL wargear" section in which we detail them and make them acailable to groups of legions or every legion? I feel like Book 1 already has plenty in it at this stage. Maybe Books 2 or 3 to show that what used to be legion-specific traditions are shared willingly between allies as the Insurrection intensifies. Also, that idea was started awhile ago. Check The Armoury thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) (Slobbers) Also, Adrathic weapons, eh? Edited February 19, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Can't wait to geht 10 of them^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Moritats don't sound very Wardens of Light. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 But they look damn awesome. Give them a robe and a hood and you have veeeeery nice dark angels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 My first thought was actually Void Eagles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Or the gun kata marines the warriors of peace have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Indeed, they all look awesome! Can't wait to have my copy. Rumorwise this week. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 My first thought was actually Void Eagles. That's what VE issued with Mk IV would end up looking like. No point not adding more plates. It wouldn't look bad on Drowned either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Ended up in a steampunk workshop/museum thing today. Every other thing was "this is rather like a Mechanicus thing, only played partly for laughs". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The moritat models do look awesome. Pitty the Lions wouldn't use them. Perhaps I could paint one up as a Blood Wolf/Orphan... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 With a few adjustments they'd make perfect Iron Bear firebound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Two words: Striking shadows Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Seeing as past experiences in this project have shown us that I need to have things decided relatively far in advance before I sit down to try and get fluff done, time to get working on a rought outline for book 2's fluff. For ideas, I've been looking at Books 4&6 of the HH books. I reckon to get all of the stuff into Expansion that we need to to properly cover the first decade of the Insurrection, we're going to need to go fluff heavy, meaning not all the campaigns in there need to get rules. Here's my thoughts on how the fluff should shape Part 1: The Conquest of the Maelstrom. Covers the very earliest campaign of the Insurrection in which Icarion secures the Maelstrom and then spreads outwards to conquer much of the central Imperium. This could be where the Insurgos come into play, launching raids on the Imperium at large to keep Alex in the dark(or as much as he can be) about where will be hit next and undermining people's trust in the Warmaster's capacity to protect them. Part 2: The Eastern Storm The Insurrectionist attack on the Eastern Fringe begins. Now I know that the Eastern Fringe ends up seeing the Drowned, traitor Dune Serpents and Steel Legion come into play. However, I recommend that the traitor Dune Serpents are, at this stage, being used to tie down the Scions Hospitalier and it's initially just the SL and the Drowned. Part 3: The Serpent's bite Covers the Dune Serpents' guerilla war and assaults on the rear lines of the Insurrectionists on the Eastern Fringe to outline how deadly they are and draws in the traitor Dune Serpents to fight fire with fire. Possibly ends up in a Thramas ambush that temporarily breaks the DS by the Steel Legion? Nomus analyses their strike pattern and ensures that the Steel Legion are there the next time. Azus is captured and the Dune Serpents break apart into dozens of company sized warbands. Part 4: The War on Iyacrax Covers the battle of the Forge. I know its a bit of a short space to cover such an enormous battle but ultimitely it's a supporting engagement to the war on the Eastern Fringe. Book 5: Death in the Void Finding out about the shattering of the Dune Serpents, Yucahu and his Void Eagles are sent to the Eastern Fringe. They are to halt the Insurrectionists or, failing in that, deny them as much ground as possibe. Good time to show case plenty of void warfare, what the Drowned, Steel Legion and Void Eagles all deployed to the same theatre. In the background, the Dune Serpents(of both allegiances) continue their guerilla conflict, although now it's more like organized vandalism and butchery than a concerted campaign, conducted for their own pleasure and hate than anything else. Part 6: The Grander War Covers those campaigns taking place in this time period that we haven't had space to give their own part. Does anyone think we need to add stuff, or change the layout? Atm I'm tempted to give the battle of the Forge another part. Giving it just one feels like selling it short. If there are no objections, I'll get to work on a more detailed plan of each part. Btw, what writers do we have? There's myself and blunt. sim is tied down concluding book 1. What about Meros and son of dorn? Are they still interested because if they are we could use the extra hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Hmmm. Sadly Meros disappeared after the last legion birth. Hmm. Those are quizr a few campaigns. Maybe split them into more books and get deeper into detail? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) Trouble is, we obly have a limited number of writers and even fewer scneario and rule writers and only one artist. Even 10 books in a decent space of time is a stretch. More...I wouldn't like to overstretch ourselves. Also, for book 2 it's likely going to be me and blunt doing most of the writing as sim is stuck tidying up book 1. Edited February 19, 2017 by Sigismund229 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/19/#findComment-4660838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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